Markuson
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Wow! That’s a great deal. If anyone is on the fence about the Noco unit, you’ll never see a better price than this, and the fact that it’s from Amazon means easy returns should you encounter a problem.
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Wow! That’s a great deal. If anyone is on the fence about the Noco unit, you’ll never see a better price than this, and the fact that it’s from Amazon means easy returns should you encounter a problem.
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At 1st i thought, How dare you try to direct us back to the original topic of this thread....then i read your post . I just paid $295 for this item last week on Amazon, it just arrived on Friday, I hadn't even opened the product box yet. I called up Amazon to try to get a price match....they said no, but that i could return for free and order a new one. Why Amazon would want to waste free shipping for me in 2 directions instead of just refunding me i dunno, but dont really care
@gaijin savin me some much-needed cash! I went on a mad spending spree on 1st aid and trauma gear today don't even know what i spent in the end, so this $60 back in my pocket is much appreciated.
I highly recommend anybody on the fence jump on this. I looked all over and nobody (outside questionable ebay) had anything cheaper than $295.
Oh wait a minute....looks like the deal is gone. I just refreshed my screen and its back up to $295. They must have sold out that quick. Close call, i got my order in by seconds
Markuson
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I think they probably do that because Amazon pricing changes constantly… Anywhere from a few cents each time to a few dollars. People would be calling night and day for adjustments. Glad you can return though, as that is a killer deal. Tempted to buy another one… Ha ha. No need obviously.
SQRRRL
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My amazon App says $239.00
I’m happy with my PowerAll.
I’m happy with my PowerAll.
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Ah, I think with lightning deals you can only claim once, that’s why mine says $295 now, because I bought already. Sweet deal for sure. A buddy of mine just bought one too.
@Markuson i dunno I think they probably do that because Amazon pricing changes constantly… Anywhere from a few cents each time to a few dollars. People would be calling night and day for adjustments. Glad you can return though, as that is a killer deal. Tempted to buy another one… Ha ha. No need obviously.
, I kinda think you should buy another one. Let’s say you have a 10L diesel that needs to be jumped 81 times, and your current jumper only can do 80? Then what? At the very least it’s such a sweet deal you could buy and sell to a buddy to hook someone else up who isn’t on Mud tonight. And no, it’s not me trying to get payback for you convincing me to spend so much money
SQRRRL
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I might have to spend money to save money.
Here I go......
Here I go......
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Just do it!
SQRRRL
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I did .
mcgaskins
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I already have an XP10 and a couple other budget jumpers, but I went ahead and pulled the trigger on this one too. Definitely the best price I’ve seen on it!
, pfft, weak sauce. Get the BG500 NOCO - 20000A Lithium Jump Starter - GB500
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Yeah, that’s more like this
Alright.....sorry for the long delay. We just got back from the Pisgah National Forest and I sorta spaced on this topic. Love this forest, only wish the area we were in had more primitive spots for our trailer.
Back on topic...
Of note, and a disclaimer of sorts. My background stems from 11 years as a combat medic in the Army, followed by 3 years (and counting) as and Army PA. I'm no expert, though have I do have experience and perspective. I'm not sponsored by any specific company and my suggestions are just that.
Regarding the original question of the contents of the $286 kit, it seems to have a nice assortment of supplies. Could you be better off building a better kit? Absolutely. Though there are some things in life where your time might be worth more than piecing a kit together. We have those "things" we'd rather spend than do ourselves, and this may be that for you.
However, I suspect with this kit and others like it, should you ever have to really use it, it's going to look like a garage sale by the time you find what you need. I'm not sure how it's packed out but I'd fear there's an emergency and you'd be tearing through it just to find the one item you needed. It's certainly over kill on some things and I tend to be a brand nut on certain things. Especially when it comes to items like medication, bandaids, etc..
I'd hesitate on getting the tactical kit unless you're versed on items such as the decompression needle. It's not rocket surgery but carrying things you're not sure how to use, or know when to use it, can be counter productive.
When considering building a 1st aid kit for off roading/overlanding/camping I'd ask yourself to consider what the most common issues are going to be and making a list of how you would treat said issue or condition. Following that, think of the 1% issues that could pop up and make a list of how to manage that. Though I understand space is always a concern, I'd be more inclined to be a large "CLS" style bag for the non-medical traveler. They are usually robust enough to carry a fair amount of supplies, often more modular and flexible enough to be stored in different areas of the rig based on your pack out.
If I were building my own kit, here is a small but not comprehensive list of what I would be looking for.
CAT t-kit x2 (GENERATION 7 is a must)
https://www.amazon.com/CAT-Combat-A...0745252&sr=8-4&keywords=cat+tourniquets+gen+7
Pressure dressing x 2 (I've used these since they were provided to the Army, love them for their intended purpose)
https://www.amazon.com/CAT-Combat-A...0745252&sr=8-4&keywords=cat+tourniquets+gen+7
Mouth to mask device
https://www.amazon.com/Ever-Ready-F...=UTF8&qid=1530745530&sr=1-4&keywords=CPR+mask
3 inch tape (I'd only carry 1 or 2 rolls in my bag, love this stuff)
https://www.amazon.com/Durapore-Sil...TF8&qid=1530745570&sr=1-30&keywords=3+in+tape
Coban x 2-3 rolls
https://www.amazon.com/Ever-Ready-F...&ie=UTF8&qid=1530745694&sr=1-7&keywords=coban
Good trauma shears (buy once cry once)
https://www.amazon.com/Madison-Supp...&qid=1530745787&sr=1-4&keywords=trauma+shears
Good surgical kit (little instruments that can just be helpful)
https://www.amazon.com/Responder-Ta..._rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=NAF8HZBRJZZ1FN1NC57S
Army style Cravat (used to create sling, anatomical splint, etc...) x4
https://www.amazon.com/USGI-Militar...F8&qid=1530746260&sr=1-1&keywords=army+cravat
Rescue hook (cut off seatbelts, clothing)
https://www.amazon.com/Benchmade-BL...530745824&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=rescue+hook
OTHER
alcohol pads x20-30
3 & 6 inch ace wraps x2
4x4 gauze pads x10
2x2 gauze pads x10
Band aids (name brand) various sizes
MEDS
Benadryl (allergy, bug bites, etc....) x1 bottle
Motrin or Alieve for anti-inflammatory (think twisted ankle, arthritic pain, etc..) x 1 bottle
Tylenol (think pain relief...headache, contusion/bruise, twisted ankle) x1 bottle
Imodium (diarrhea) x1 bottle
Hydrocortisone cream (rash/bug bites, ingrown toe nail) x2 tubes
Antibiotic cream/ointment x2 tubes
Eye drops x1 bottle
Cough drops
Anyway, just some thoughts on what I'd carry if building my own kit. Happy to spit ball vai DM/PM if there are questions. Love the topic, very passionate about it as it is my day to day at work.
-Chris
ALSO......obligatory photos of our trip below.
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Markuson
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Wow! What a CLASSIC kid photo in the water! Love this!
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Thanks Chris, that looks like an awesome summer trip! Looks like you not only have the military medical experience but also the wheeling with young kids experience as well. I'll send you a PM as well, but thought I'd go ahead and list the entire contents on this thread of what i have ordered for 1st Aid / Trauma for my 200. BIG thanks to @Taco2Cruiser for all the expertise and guidance on this process as well. I look forward to your feedback.
Did my best to compare what I ordered against @doctorres112 and @Taco2Cruiser suggestions. Let me know you think i missed anything, or if there is any specific items I'd be best of returning and getting a different one (better shears ect...), or anything else i should swap out for a better quality item. All items on this list I have already ordered on Monday, but haven't yet received anything yet. The Amazon stuff as always is easy to return if you have alternate suggestions. @Taco2Cruiser , the only area I swerved on since we spoke was the ITS Boo Boo Kit. I made a spreadsheet to compare it against some other offerings and ended up going with the Adventure Medical Kits Mountain Guide Medic Kit , as it just had more qty's of the products and other extras i woulda had to order separately. The bag it comes in is nice and organized, not nearly as cool as the BROG large 1st aid bag, but i can always change that in the future. good enough to start. Some of these items like Chris said (Decompression Needle) I'm obviously not going to know how to use til i get the training, but better to have in case somebody else does know how to use and for me in the future. Anyways, here we go:
FRONT SEAT OF VEHICLE - (Trauma)
VENDOR - DESCRIPTION - PRICE - LINKS
Blue Ridge Overlandgear:
First Aid IFAK Velcro Pouch Small $45.99 First Aid IFAK Pouch - Small
ID Panel | FIRST AID $5.99 ID Panel | First Aid
Chinook Medical Gear:
Covert Trauma Pouch Kit, Refill, W/SOFTT-W (Contents Only) $89.95 Chinook Medical Gear, Inc. Covert Trauma Pouch Kit (TMK-CTP)
(2) Nitrile Glove
(1) SOF Tactical Tourniquet, Wide
(1) Compressed Gauze
(1) Compact Wound Seal
(1) Decompression Needle, 14Gx3.25"
(1) Nasopharyngeal Airway w/ Lube, 28 Fr
(1) Mini Compression Bandage
(1) Tactical Combat Casualty Care Card
(1) QuikClot Combat Gauze LE, Z-Fold $41.79 Z-Medica QuikClot Combat Gauze LE, Z-Fold
Amazon:
RATS Tourniquet with READYMAN Every Day Carry Belt Sleeve holder $17.95 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HJ1PUZC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Level One Seat Belt Cutter X 2 $6.89 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004O416I8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Mckesson Performance plus Gauze Sponge Cover Dressing Sterile, 4 X 4 Inches, Box of 50 $3.06 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002C5P9J8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Israeli Bandage Battle Dressing First Aid Compression Bandage, 6 Inch $9.32 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003DPVERM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
REAR CARGO AREA VEHICLE - (1st Aid)
Adventure Medical Kits (from moosejaw.com):
Mountain Series - Mountain Guide Medic Kit $100.00 Mountain Guide Kit - Mountain - Medical Kits - Adventure® Medical Kits
Cuts & Scrapes
10 – Easy Access Bandages®, 1" x 3" Fabric
5 – Easy Access Bandages®, Knuckle Fabric
10 – Antiseptic Wipe
3 – Triple Antibiotic Ointment
4 – Alcohol Swab
2 – Tincture of Benzoin
Fracture / Sprain
1 – C-Splint™, Aluminum & Foam Padded, 4" x 36"
1 – Triangular Bandage
1 – Elastic Bandage with Hook & Loop Closure, 3"
Instruction / Instrument
1 – Wilderness & Travel Medicine: A Comprehensive Guide
1 – Digital Thermometer, 90°F – 105°F
1 – CPR Face Shield
1 – EMT Shears, 4"
1 – Duct Tape, 2" x 2.5 yd.
1 – Splinter Picker/Tick Remover Forceps
3 – Safety Pin
2 – Plastic Vial (Large Flip-top)
1 – Patient Assessment Form
1 – Pencil
1 – Register Your Kit Card
Medication
3 – After Bite® Sting & Bite Relief Wipe
4 – Diamode (Loperamide HCI 2 mg.), 4 Pkg./1
8 – Aspirin (325 mg.), 4 Pkg./2
4 – Antihistamine (Diphenhydramine 25 mg.), 4 Pkg./1
16 – Ibuprofen (200 mg.), 8 Pkg./2
8 – Acetaminophen (500 mg.), 4 Pkg./2
Stop Bleeding Fast
1 – QuikClot® Gauze, 3” x 24”
1 – Trauma Pad, 8" x 10"
1 – Trauma Pad, 5” x 9”
4 – Nitrile Glove
Wound Care / Blister / Burn
1 – Wound Irrigation Tool, 20cc. with 18 Gauge Tip
10 – Wound Closure Strip, 1/4" x 4"
6 – Sterile Gauze Dressing, 4" x 4"
6 – Sterile Gauze Dressing, 2" x 2"
3 – Sterile Non-Adherent Dressing, 3" x 4"
2 – Conforming Gauze Bandage, 3"
1 – Tape, 1" x 10 yd.
2 – GlacierGel™ Blister & Burn Dressing, (Small Rectangular)
28 – Moleskin, Pre-Cut & Shaped Pieces
4 – Cotton Tip Applicator
Amazon:
3M Medipore H Soft Cloth Surgical Tape - 4" wide by 10 yards $7.69 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000O0FQ50/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
McKesson 16-9701 Medi-Pak Instant Cold COMPRESS, 4" Width, 6" Length, 4" Width, 6" Length (Pack of 24) $16.24 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XD7XFQB/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Nexcare Steri-Strip Skin Closure 1/2 X 4 Inches, 18 Count $8.31 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UXDN6O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
READYMAN Survival Cards (Wilderness 2.0) $11.78 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MS1KNSI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
CeraSport EX1 Sample Big Pouch-Orange 2.5 gal (38 - 8oz servings) $25.52 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008DZ08X8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
TOTAL:
$390.48
here is also a link to the spreadsheet if its easier for you to view the above list this way;
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k981tFRrubwA3-OOhpfT1h_eyfmcXiRpXWE0CiammSc/edit?usp=sharing
Interesting discussion on the medical items; I've always thought of a first-aid kit as a boo-boo kit; having the knowledge (I certainly didn't) to create a trauma type kit off of Amazon is pretty cool. $230 guzzled.
mcgaskins
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I finally unboxed the NOCO and I’m shocked at how huge it is compared to the XP10! I’m also surprised at the lack of an AC charger and the fact it gets charged via a USB/micro USB. The XP10 comes with a nice carrying case, AC adaptor, laptop and phone adaptors, etc., so I guess I was expecting the NOCO at a higher price point to have similar stuff. It looks like a very heavy duty unit though, and I care the most about it working well when I need to jump a dead battery.
Exactly the same here on all counts. BTW - more than enough energy to start the 6.2L engine in our truck with a dead battery.
Got mine this past Friday, it's a monster.
Markuson
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I bought an inexpensive 120AC to 12v Wall adapter...which charges the the NOCO the fastest.
There are many ways to charge it and the slowest is usb. You can plug in nearly any dc charger that fits the round plug...and each will charge at varied rates based on the source...including solar.
This is what I use:
AC to DC Converter, Cooolbuy 8.5A 102W 110-220V to 12V Car Cigarette Lighter Socket AC/DC Power Supply Charging Adapter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07174RPL4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_OZytBb7HGQFBG
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