mudandrock
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He will delete your acsd as well when it's on the bench. Make sure you set your timing correctly when you reinstall your pump
Diesel Shop for IP Rebuild Recommendation, HDJ81 (1 Viewer)
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I concur with @mudandrock, I am in CA and used a local diesel shop who claimed they were very knowledgeable in these pumps and could do a good job. They proceeded to ask me what the specs should be set at, I ended up leaving my FSM with them. Upon re-install the truck didnt feel right, after about 2,000km I started noticing fuel in the oil which is indicative of front seal failure. It is now on its way to Okanagan, where it has been detained in Canadian customs for the last three weeks, and I have no idea if it will ever be released(anyone have a 1HZ pump for sale?). These are my two lessons learned that I am passing on:
1. Don;t use diesel mechanics in the states to work on your Toyota diesels, spend the extra time and money to find someone who actually works on these regularly.
2. If you ship out of the states don't use USPS, use DHL or more prominent international shippers.
3. Make sure there is no diesel left in the pump when shipping, I suspect mine leaked a bit, soaking the box which flagged it during customs.
1. Don;t use diesel mechanics in the states to work on your Toyota diesels, spend the extra time and money to find someone who actually works on these regularly.
2. If you ship out of the states don't use USPS, use DHL or more prominent international shippers.
3. Make sure there is no diesel left in the pump when shipping, I suspect mine leaked a bit, soaking the box which flagged it during customs.
mudandrock
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That sucks man! Make sure you check your timing after reinstalling.
I don't understand why an experienced diesel fuel injection specialist cant do a Toyota pump even if he has never seen one before. They are merely 6 cyl versions of pumps used on VW.
If you have the specs in a workshop manual, it is just a matter of following the directions.
If you have the specs in a workshop manual, it is just a matter of following the directions.
What's the average cost of an injection pump rebuild? Injector service?
My ACSD (Toyota 14BT) was leaking this summer, I removed it and put a blanking plate in it's place. Everything seemed okay, but now that it's cold out, my engine smokes (blueish-white) like a mother until it warms up and my mileage has dropped off a bit. Initially I thought the mileage drop was due to the addition of a big roof rack and winterized diesel, and it may be, but the smoking is embarrassing. It all but disappears once warm, but until then, it looks horrible.
I'd be willing to ship, but I too think there should be local options, these are Bosch pumps and aren't used exclusively on Toyotas. Anyway, just need to budget for some work and would like to know what the going rate is for this service.
Dan
My ACSD (Toyota 14BT) was leaking this summer, I removed it and put a blanking plate in it's place. Everything seemed okay, but now that it's cold out, my engine smokes (blueish-white) like a mother until it warms up and my mileage has dropped off a bit. Initially I thought the mileage drop was due to the addition of a big roof rack and winterized diesel, and it may be, but the smoking is embarrassing. It all but disappears once warm, but until then, it looks horrible.
I'd be willing to ship, but I too think there should be local options, these are Bosch pumps and aren't used exclusively on Toyotas. Anyway, just need to budget for some work and would like to know what the going rate is for this service.
Dan
You could try re-timing the pump before sending it off for a rebuild. That's all the ACSD did, advanced the timing till the coolant was warm. If the pump isn't leaking it could just be out of spec on timing, causing the smoking when cold.
mudandrock
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They all smoke when it’s cold, especially if you no longer have a thermo-wax ring pushing the throttle advance. If this engine is a transplant you may not have a throttle lock on the dash to give it more RPMs until warm. If it is a factory diesel setup, that throttle lock is your engine’s best friend when it’s cold.
I would install an in-line coolant heater before messing with my timing. Either way that engine needs RPMs when cold. In the morning when I first start my rig, I always give it at least 1400 rpm’s until the smoke clears up in the idle smooths out. After which I give it at least 1000 RPMs before I take off in the morning, diesel engines need heat
I would install an in-line coolant heater before messing with my timing. Either way that engine needs RPMs when cold. In the morning when I first start my rig, I always give it at least 1400 rpm’s until the smoke clears up in the idle smooths out. After which I give it at least 1000 RPMs before I take off in the morning, diesel engines need heat
I used these guys (and this particular location) based on reviews elsewhere on the forum. ~$800, they had it about a week.
Whittier, CA
I haven't installed it yet, so I can't tell you about performance, but it sure is pretty.
Whittier, CA
I haven't installed it yet, so I can't tell you about performance, but it sure is pretty.
Blue smoke = oil burn . White smoke = ignition that is too cool(often from poor compression but not limited to it) . I would do a compression test first.
If it was the pump, it wouldn't get better as it warms up.
Thanks for the input guys. It could definitely use a coolant heater. I was planning on putting an electric one in, so I could plug it in at home, but that wouldn't work at the local ski-hill and that's where it's the worst. When I am coming down the mountain...it never gets a load, and hence doesn't warm up until I'm about halfway home, which is about 10 miles of smoking.
I do have the manual throttle knob an do use it.
I don't think it's burning oil, it's not that blue. I think a compression test and maybe after that, injectors.
I do have the manual throttle knob an do use it.
I don't think it's burning oil, it's not that blue. I think a compression test and maybe after that, injectors.
This is good advice that I can relate to somewhat. I removed my leaking Toyota branded Denso IP for a rebuild by a local diesel injection shop that has a good reputation online. They list Bosch, Denso and others as pumps they can rebuild/reseal, etc.
Initially the service manager said no problem rebuilding it but they ended up telling me a few days later they couldn't get the replacement parts needed to repair the pump (most likely BS). Now I am having to go through a more expensive and time consuming route of doing a core exchange with a rebuilt unit out of Japan because I have no desire to go from shop to shop hoping I can find one to repair it.
It's far from cheap, but a webasto coolant heater works without needing a plug in, can be set on a timer and/or triggered via remote, and brings the coolant temp up to about halfway between cold and full operating temp. You can run it with the engine, and it takes only a couple minutes to bring the coolant temp up even in your downhill, low load operation like coming down from the ski hill parking lot scenario.
Winters are cold where I live, it's one of the best mods I've made for using my truck in the winter.
mudandrock
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One of the most important winter mods I forgot to mention, cardboard in front of the radiator! Just remember to take it out in the spring. On another note, the fact that your truck is even starting without being plugged in, is a good sign that compression is not an issue.
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Quick update, I installed the IP rebuilt by Becs Pacific.
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I said something stupid in public.
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I said something stupid in public.
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How does it come timed out of the box?!?
GTSSportCoupe
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Maybe he sent it with the whole engine?
Foot --> mouth. Working through timing as we speak.
For what it's worth, I just went through an IP swap for my 1991 HDJ81 and I had an excellent experience with Cruiser Addiction (@Akella ), purchasing a rebuilt IP exchange unit and then sending my old IP back to them for a core refund. They were great to work with, flexible, and responsive (thanks Anna!!), and the rebuilt IP has been great so far (have had it in for a week and over 1200 kms). So far I have been getting better fuel mileage and the IP is quieter (never realized how 'loud' my old one was)!
I had the awesome crew at Land Cruiser's Direct (thanks @SteveJackson !), where I bought my HDJ81 originally, do the swap and it was a great experience all around. LCD's estimate of labor and time were right on or under their prediction. I feel like I avoided a lot of the pitfalls of dealing with local shops that claim to be able to work on these IPs, but in reality have no experience with them. I didn't want to end up being a guinea pig with such an important component. It's worth it to find a good shop/service to do the work, as a poorly functioning IP means everything else suffers (performance, economy, etc.) Just wanted to share my experience for my IP swap
I had the awesome crew at Land Cruiser's Direct (thanks @SteveJackson !), where I bought my HDJ81 originally, do the swap and it was a great experience all around. LCD's estimate of labor and time were right on or under their prediction. I feel like I avoided a lot of the pitfalls of dealing with local shops that claim to be able to work on these IPs, but in reality have no experience with them. I didn't want to end up being a guinea pig with such an important component. It's worth it to find a good shop/service to do the work, as a poorly functioning IP means everything else suffers (performance, economy, etc.) Just wanted to share my experience for my IP swap
@HillCountryTX
How is your new IP working out for you so far? I managed to get one of those cover plates from MD for the ACSD delete.
How is your new IP working out for you so far? I managed to get one of those cover plates from MD for the ACSD delete.
Its how mine came back. I had the engine back from the engine reconditioner and I just set the timing gears running off the crank as per manual and added the pump, aligned the marks and it fired up straight away once the air was out of the injector lines.. Injection shop said they could make some minor adjustments if it smoked etc but it was perfect.
