Wiring an 8274 + Albright (1 Viewer)

[cruiserpilot]

What is the part number for the Albright Contactor that you used please! I have a source here, but can't confirm a part number. Thanks, J

 

[1911]

What is the part number for the Albright Contactor that you used please! I have a source here, but can't confirm a part number. Thanks, J

Albright P/N DC88P

 

[kkodet]

Awesome info!

 

[hj 60]

Because I am also looking for the replacement I am reading a lot about it and the schedule on page one is considered dangerous on a German site: at heavy load the thing might fail and quickly burn out:

Buschtaxi.net • Warn Winde defekt

They recommend the one below, I added some stuff to get all tests in one picture but beware, they mention the - minus to be in the wrong way, he seems to be a warn winch tech.

At the moment to much info to check what he says, should look at difference with this below one that is fine according to them: (if they are the same I dont understand what is going on)

Edit 16-11-2017
I got it all sorted out and many pdf with user manuals in this link: Warn M12000 winch PDF bumper, air & original jack - hj60.freeforums.org

The German is asked to explain what is wrong with the setup and he foolish replied people should come to him (and something like stupid people buying cheap parts)
So it is a seller troll, still have to see what is wrong according to him, I believe anyway the minus - shuld be correct.
The picture above works for me.

 

[Rob Faucett]

A picture is worth a 1000 words.

Pin_head - Can you repost this pic?

 

[Varty Yo]

Wow this is great info! I currently have 3 8274 in my possesion and im planning to rebuild them all over the winter as a way to fund other 42 pars haha. It really is that simple to replacing the solenoid pack with just this one Albright?

 

[1911]

It really is that simple to replacing the solenoid pack with just this one Albright?

Yes.

The hardest thing is deciding where you will mount the single contactor, for it and the wires and cables to fit under the controller plug in the solenoid cover.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Bumping this thread because it's an awesome guide for wiring up an albright (or superwinch) contactor. Used the references and images here to wire my 8274 up the past two nights. Mounted my contactor inside the engine bay on the DS outer fender and used a 12voltguy in-cab control kit to make the angry pixies run around.

For reference, I used this contactor:
Superwinch Replacement Solenoids 90-14452

Thanks especially to @hj 60 for the diagram in post #24. Accurate and easy reference.

Contactor terminals were sprayed with anti-corrosion spray after these shots.

 

[hj 60]

GLTHFJ60 That looks cool, nice setup, I wish I had the automatic power cut off from cabin, I am to cheap for it.
I can recommend a safety cut out, because the winch scares me, I have two red key power cut out, one at the battery and one next to the winch, hope to safe my hand, no accidental power, only when winching.
Also very cheap are the wireless remote control, I use that the most.

remote winch control | eBay

Being a winch guy really is better than being the high lift guy, but that was better than being the air lift guy, and now I am the rear diff locked guy, plus I am the front diff locked guy! wow! 4x4 owner evolution

Added the front manual switch wiring with a trailer plug, also attached a led light in the manual switch, the switch does not operate if the front kill switch is off, light is always on when killswitch under the hood is on:
4 wires: - minus / + plus / >spool in / <spool out

Adding the wireless remote is really simple while you now understand the wires.
But I am scared that when a chinese scooter comes by the interference winch control will take over...

So below is one cabin control, one wireless remote and one wired remote with led:

 

[GLTHFJ60]

@SeanLX check this out ^^^

 

[SeanLX]

Wow, that remote is cheap. I do like the redundant controls and the LED to show when the winch has power.

 

[woodsman 44]

Great thread!

Just starting to wire up a superwinch soleniod 90-14452 on a Warn 8274

I take it that black on the soleniod goes to motor ground?

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Yup! 12v to yellow spools the winch in, black is ground, 12v to blue spools the winch out, assuming you wired the motor to the contactor properly.

Nice work!

 

[woodsman 44]

Getting the plug wired up.....

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Well, my superwinch contactor is bad, won't power out anymore. Looks like the superwinch 90-14452 is discontinued, as is the Albright DC88P equivalent. The warn 34971 is bigger than the superwinch/albright, but it looks like a new version of the DC88P is out, called the DC88P-1000.

Has anyone used the DC88P-1000? Amazon link here:

Amazon product ASIN B07X7KQNXH
I think I'm going to order the warn 34971 and run it. Hopefully it fits in the same place.

Warn branded DC88P-1000 series contactor:

Amazon product ASIN B0787QS836

 

[woodsman 44]

Well, my superwinch contactor is bad, won't power out anymore. Looks like the superwinch 90-14452 is discontinued, as is the Albright DC88P equivalent. The warn 34971 is bigger than the superwinch/albright, but it looks like a new version of the DC88P is out, called the DC88P-1000.

Has anyone used the DC88P-1000? Amazon link here:

Amazon product ASIN B07X7KQNXH
I think I'm going to order the warn 34971 and run it. Hopefully it fits in the same place.

Warn branded DC88P-1000 series contactor:

Amazon product ASIN B0787QS836

Let us know if it fits under WARN contactor box....bummer superwinch went out on you.

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Getting back to this, I don't have my contactor mounted under the cover on the winch motor. I relocated mine to the driver's side engine bay with a 500a isolation solenoid and in-cab controls. I can compare the Warn 34971 dimensions against the 90-14452 though. I'll supply pics.

^^

 

[Randy88FJ62]

Bumperoo.

I'm rebuilding an 8274 for my 4runner. Which contactor is everyone using now? @GLTHFJ60?

 

[GLTHFJ60]

Warn 34971 is larger than the original albright/superwinch 14452 in this thread. DC88P-1000 or Warn 98381 are the same size as the 14452

 

[alia176]

Warn 34971 is larger than the original albright/superwinch 14452 in this thread. DC88P-1000 or Warn 98381 are the same size as the 14452

Warn 98381 is good for For Zeon 8, 8S, 10, 10S, 12, 12S Truck Winches, according to Amazon. So, it should be good for over 100amps, which is what a loaded winch will usually draw.

For the folks using the now discontinued Albright unit for the 8274 retrofits, looks like your older units are only good for 100amps continuous, if I'm not mistaken.

If anyone has a spec on the Warn 98381, that'd be good.

Albright:

DC88P-1000 is good for 100A, according to Curtis/Albright DC88P-1000 Motor Reversing DC Contactor in a Protective Case. This Albright data sheet shows that 185amps @30% duty cycle but the current vs time graph does show amps in excess of 500amps for a very short time is doable with this unit.

But,

Amazon contradicts and says flat out that DC88P-1000 is good for 500amp, to fit 6000 to 18,000lb winches. Check out the pics at this and also the same current vs time graph Link

My Warn M10,000 winch has drawn near 600amps fully loaded, probably from the outer layer or maybe one layer in of the cable. However, my steel cable is only 80' long on the drum, not the usual 125' or whatever it came with from the factory.