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I’ve been searching for an answer for a few days now with no luck. I have a 93 that developed a knock at 275k, ordered a used engine off of lowmileageusedparts.com, was supposed to have 108k miles. It arrived and was a pile of crap, cost me $600 to return it.. oh well lesson learned. Disassembled my block and found #1&#2 were scored looked like overheat. Decided to bring it all in to an engine builder in town (October 18th)In the mean time I removed a security system that was scanned into the harness and soldered/heat shrinked the wires back together. I finally get the engine back last Thursday and get it installed by Sunday. Engine cranks but will not start. Checked spark, it’s good, checked fuel have fuel. Checked timing 500 times and it’s good. Cel light is on while cranking. What could possibly prevent the engine from starting or even trying to start if I have fuel and spark? I even tried a little eather, not even a stumble. I’m terrified I have no compression but wondering if the alarm wiring could cause this?
 
Great guys here with far more knowledge than me, so hang in there. One recent post was found to be 180 out of 1st TDC. Pull your #1 plug and using a wooden dowel check that your piston is at top position. I have a ‘93 too. Good luck.
 
Could be timing, as seen recently the distributor could be 180 degrees off. A timing light might help figure that out. The dowel suggestion won't work, the #1 is at TDC twice in its cycle, but only works when it fires on the correct one.
 
I’ve timed it 180 degrees out, then back then connected a timing light while cranking and it’s 10 dbtdc
 
Well, then you've got yourself a mystery. When you say you have fuel and spark, how did you verify them? If there's fuel and spark in the cylinder, something should happen, unless the piston is missing or the valves aren't opening. If you verify fuel and spark in the cylinder and proper timing, a compression test might be in your future.
 
Removed the fuel return off the regulator and had the wife crank it over... lots of fuel, pulled spark plug and it’s wet. Removed spark plug and connected it to spark plug wire... zap zap
 
Only takes a few minutes to run a compression test.
 
^^^^ no s***

Borrowed a compression tester today, have very little to no compression, guessing the lash is too tight or seats were ground wrong .. hopefully the machinist will make this rite
 
Correct me if im wrong here but shouldn't the engine builder check timing, compression and run rebuilt engine before giving it back the customer??
 
One would hope so, this whole experience has been a nightmare. Next time I’ll do it myself. I have the tooling and knowledge (besides machining) just have a tiny garage and no time
 
I'm really sorry you're going through this. After buying a used engine too.
That's a lot of suck.
Sorry dude.
 
Cams were timed correctly, pulled the valve cover prior to install.something wasn’t done as per the fsm that’s for sure
 
I would pull the valve cover and hand crank the engine to visually check valve sequence.
 
There is cam to cam timing as well as cam to crank timing. Then there is distributor timing. If the engine rebuilder got two, but not the last one, then it's a problem.

If no compression:
Timing
Valves not adjusted properly
Piston rings not installed properly
Head gasket not installed properly

Just thinking out loud:
If you have spark, then your crank sensor is working and your ECM is working.

If you have fuel, then your ECM is working and it is meeting the requirements. But are they firing at the RIGHT TIME?

Is it flooded and just won't fire because of that? Maybe the injectors sticking open?
But you have no compression......

Good Luck!
 

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