Sounds like he only changed the shocks, not the springs. So the lift is the same.
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I was curious on that too. He mentioned the stance changed with can't happen with shocks alone so perhaps he added an additional leaf or changed shackles at the same time.
@Pantingfish - We stock all the Dobinson shocks and parts and would love to assist. If you've got a lighter 60 Series build, the OME shocks are likely going to be too firm. Do you know what OME shock part numbers (stamped in body) you have?
It's possible you have too firm of shocks. We run into this super regularly. Company X sells them a heavy load kit where the customer really wanted a heavy duty light/medium kit. Different parts that result in the same ride height but totally different ride compliance.
huh? raised it? you didn't used the old school coil over shocks did you?
The OME felt absolutely awful like riding on steel rods posing as shocks. The dobinsons fit with the OME 2" lift leaf pack no problem and slightly lifts it more but not that noticeable. Maybe because my old OME shocks were worn and compressed. Now the ride sits proud and not sagging if that's appropriate. Now I don't even feel the bumps. Huge difference. One of the best mods I have done yet. Eventually will replace the OME leaf packs with the Dobinsons. I was going the cheaper route first, just shocks.
If shocks are changing your ride height, they are a. absolutely the wrong shock and b. not doing shock things. If you saw height change after shock swap, something is/was not right and that would absolutely explain why you felt like they had no compliance. Any idea what part# they were. Could very well be wrong length and wrong valving. We talk with at least one 4x/6x customer a day that has way too stiff of shocks on his/her Land Cruiser.
We sell/stock OME & Dobinsons, have for years. Like OME, Dobinsons it's become quite a "me-too" item for new shops to offer as of late. It's very common for us to mix-match components for a half dozen different manufactures on a single suspension, particulary on 6x, 8x and 100 applications where different shocks can be a preferred fit. That said I absolutely love the OME mix-match stuff on my personal HJ61, it rides fantastically & flexes well. Most ride quality complaints we get are incorrect application shocks. Heavy load shocks paired with light/medium springs and/or heavy springs on trucks with light accessory loads. Bilstein, Dobinsons and Tokico have better options of light/stock builds. That's why we keep it all here. The only wrong suspension answer is the one-size fits-all answer
Yes I'm also surprised by all this hate on the OME shocks... On a leaf spring suspension the shocks don't have that much to do, the worst you could do is put a gas shock that will prevent the leaves from working correctly.
On my 40 (not a 60 but should be 100% worse with the shorter wheel base) it's quite ok with a full OME setup and flex very well (not saying that a Dobinsons aren't better but it comes at a premium).
Maybe the issue is on using the OME nitro sport shocks instead of their base shocks?
On my 40 (not a 60 but should be 100% worse with the shorter wheel base) it's quite ok with a full OME setup and flex very well (not saying that a Dobinsons aren't better but it comes at a premium).
Maybe the issue is on using the OME nitro sport shocks instead of their base shocks?
Which part number Sport shocks? They have multiple front and rear options, same length, different valving. If they changed your ride height, something was absolutely wrong with your shocks.
Yes, bingo. Those are the heaviest shock OME offers for the front. While that doesn't explain the ride height difference, it does explain the ride quality. Those are for very heavy 6x's, you have a lighter weight build compared to many so those wouldn't necissarily be my first choice. Sometimes customers tell us they plan to have dual batteries, big bumpers, 15,000lb winches, diesel swaps and 500lbs of tools under the hood (exaggerating) and thus they end up with the heavier shocks. Then they install a low profile bumper, 8k winch with synthetic and do a V8 swap with a lighter motor.... and they need lighter shocks
Does that mean I have heavier leaf package too? Meaning I can get even better ride quality with dobinsons leafsYes, bingo. Those are the heaviest shock OME offers for the front. While that doesn't explain the ride height difference, it does explain the ride quality. Those are for very heavy 6x's, you have a lighter weight build compared to many so those wouldn't necissarily be my first choice. Sometimes customers tell us they plan to have dual batteries, big bumpers, 15,000lb winches, diesel swaps and 500lbs of tools under the hood (exaggerating) and thus they end up with the heavier shocks. Then they install a low profile bumper, 8k winch with synthetic and do a V8 swap with a lighter motor.... and they need lighter shocks
Impossible to guess as they can all be mix-matched. Did you buy the suspension new or did it come on the vehicle?
You could potentially get a better or worse ride quality with Dobinsons (correct spring vs incorrect spring) just as you could get a better ride quality than previous with a different OME shock and potentially a different OME spring OR modify your current springs. Lego's.
Is-it me or the regular nitrocharger shocks from OME have disappeared and only the nitro-sport remain?
Seemed to me that the regular nitrocharger were only existing in 1 type per model... but actually even searching about the nitro-sport I can't find any vending website explicitly proposing multiple versions per vehicles. Some websites I found indicate the shock partnumber but it is the same on their light/medium/heavy kits.
On your website Kurt you don't specify the shock partnumber in your kits!?
(This is an interesting topic, the matching of springs / shocks / vehicles, but I feel we are wayyyy off-topic here, maybe all the chatting should be split out?)
Seemed to me that the regular nitrocharger were only existing in 1 type per model... but actually even searching about the nitro-sport I can't find any vending website explicitly proposing multiple versions per vehicles. Some websites I found indicate the shock partnumber but it is the same on their light/medium/heavy kits.
On your website Kurt you don't specify the shock partnumber in your kits!?
(This is an interesting topic, the matching of springs / shocks / vehicles, but I feel we are wayyyy off-topic here, maybe all the chatting should be split out?)
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Just for reference @Roonie are the #’s on those OME’s 60063….or 60068? Or @cruiseroutfit
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New split t-cases being prepped to head to new homes.
Everytime I see these out of their respective boxes in the shop. I think I need to borrow one and hide it at home for a future rainy day project as they won't always be available. Of the 50+ split t-case variants that Toyota made over the years, we are down to just a couple that are still available.
New split t-cases being prepped to head to new homes.
Everytime I see these out of their respective boxes in the shop. I think I need to borrow one and hide it at home for a future rainy day project as they won't always be available. Of the 50+ split t-case variants that Toyota made over the years, we are down to just a couple that are still available.
Good point. I'm assuming 60063. 60068 is a Nissan Patrol shock and approx 3" shorter. It would certainly explain the ride height change after putting longer shocks on
That is correct, there are just a few Nitrocharger shocks still avail, all others went to the Nitro Sports, 10+ years ago. For example we sold our last N88's (6x front Nitrocharger) in 2012 and they were old stock then. The 60009/63 (Nitrochrarger Sport) started shipping/selling in 2009.
Looking at our sales history on them is quite a trip down memory lane. Lots of long time customers on the list
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New split t-cases being prepped to head to new homes.
Everytime I see these out of their respective boxes in the shop. I think I need to borrow one and hide it at home for a future rainy day project as they won't always be available. Of the 50+ split t-case variants that Toyota made over the years, we are down to just a couple that are still available.
that is a unique factory installed 4wd indicator switch , complete with a blue torque yield hatch marks to boot !
that's far out Kurt ..
I love checking out all the details of them. This is an older batch we were prepping to ship with some horrible music to entertain
