Front brake disc conv, 74 fj40 with 83 fj60 knuck/hub/birf (3 Viewers)

[cruiseroutfit]

The hard brake lines are still available from Toyota I believe, I kept the backing plates on my 40, no problems in 10 plus years.

X2, hardlines are still avail, we stock them @ Cruiser Outfitters. If your backing plates are in good shape, run them!

If not, we have backing plate eliminator kits that still use the hardline as it's preferred over a complete soft line from axle to caliper.

 

[Zjohnsonua]

I've long wondered...what is the benefit of this knuckle side hard line? All I can see is that it provides a little more protection from debris for the brake lines. And even that is stretch.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

I've long wondered...what is the benefit of this knuckle side hard line? All I can see is that it provides a little more protection from debris for the brake lines. And even that is stretch.

Definitely provides protection. With a soft line you've got a lot of exposed hose coming right out of the caliper. A 90* fitting at the caliper could help direct it up out of harms way. Given you need to run a backing plate eliminator for seal spacing, no reason not to go hard line (inexpensive) and have the brake hose on top of the axle rather than behind.

 

[John in Utah]

I'm gagging on the Knuckle Centering Tool... $285 for one-time use. Anyone want to rent or sell me a used one?

I could send you mine to borrow.

Definitely use one, I didn’t when I swapped on mini truck knuckles and had to redo the job.

 

[dazerb]

28 years and no problem with the backing plate. I’ve got brake line pliers to bend the hard line… just have them made the right length and takes 5 minutes a side to bend them to fit. Easier than finding a vin number for an equivalent 40 with discs. Toyota won’t willingly supply any parts which the computer says didn’t come on my ‘74 4 wheel drum brake 40.

I just ordered them from cruiser outfitters $8.5 ea. dirt cheap

 

[dazerb]

X2, hardlines are still avail, we stock them @ Cruiser Outfitters. If your backing plates are in good shape, run them!

If not, we have backing plate eliminator kits that still use the hardline as it's preferred over a complete soft line from axle to caliper.

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Showing me this axle porn, I feel inadequate now. I've never gotten anything that clean in my life

 

[dazerb]

X2, hardlines are still avail, we stock them @ Cruiser Outfitters. If your backing plates are in good shape, run them!

If not, we have backing plate eliminator kits that still use the hardline as it's preferred over a complete soft line from axle to caliper.

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Actually, i have your calipers, knuckle hardware, rotors... otw

 

[dazerb]

I could send you mine to borrow.

Definitely use one, I didn’t when I swapped on mini truck knuckles and had to redo the job.

I would appreciate that. Willing to work out any logistics that work for you. It's gonna take a couple weeks for all parts to show up It should take me about that long to get the $&@%#~<>cone washers out

 

[dazerb]

Actually, i have your calipers, knuckle hardware, rotors... otw

AND those hard lines and top knuckle hardware

 

[Spike Strip]

@cruiseroutfit

What hardline is used in this pic? I don't see anything on your various websites that seems to match it, for bolt up to those Backing Plate Eliminators. It doesn't look like the FJ40/60 lines I'm familiar with?

Cheers.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

@cruiseroutfit

What hardline is used in this pic? I don't see anything on your various websites that seems to match it, for bolt up to those Backing Plate Eliminators. It doesn't look like the FJ40/60 lines I'm familiar with?

Cheers.

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I don't recall the part number off the top of my head (currently traveling) but it's one I tracked down for that particular application (backing plate elim). We should have plenty at ths shop. Info@cruiseroutfitters.com

 

[MDH33]

I would appreciate that. Willing to work out any logistics that work for you. It's gonna take a couple weeks for all parts to show up It should take me about that long to get the $&@%#~<>cone washers out

Try a big brass drift on the end of the bolt and smack it with a hammer, they pop right off.

 

[dazerb]

Thanks for this! I may need a bigger drift And a smaller hammer. Lol. I've got 8diff rubber mallet, 10 carpenter hammers, one HUGE sledge... and nothing in between.

 

[dazerb]

I don't recall the part number off the top of my head (currently traveling) but it's one I tracked down for that particular application (backing plate elim). We should have plenty at ths shop. Info@cruiseroutfitters.com

 

[C6H12O6]

Lots of good info and tips here. Only tricky problem to solve is to either find the large-pattern steering arms from a later 40 that has the 40-sized tie rod end holes, convert the steering linkage over to 60 TREs and associated stuff, or shim the holes on the 60-sized large-pattern steering arms on the new 60 knuckles. No insurmountable, just another thing to sort out with the swap.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Lots of good info and tips here. Only tricky problem to solve is to either find the large-pattern steering arms from a later 40 that has the 40-sized tie rod end holes, convert the steering linkage over to 60 TREs and associated stuff, or shim the holes on the 60-sized large-pattern steering arms on the new 60 knuckles. No insurmountable, just another thing to sort out with the swap.

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[cruiseroutfit]

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Those work with the factory Land Cruiser backing plate. The eliminator kit uses a slightly different line.

 

[dazerb]

Cone washers success!! Brass drift with a 20oz hammer about 8-10 Good whacks.

That CV joint sure has some scoring???

FWiW, there's have definitely been serviced ( they hammered the bearing lock and adjuster nuts but i still have Clean surface on both). And there was still pockets of clean grease. Koyo bearings still look really good but i have new ones coming so will save these.

Gonna be messy for sure!

 

[dazerb]

Got some parts in... sexy. Cruiser Outfitters A++ on service. A gasket was mangled and before i could say "my gasket got mangled in shipping " they already had a new one on the way.

 

[dazerb]

Think i managed to make these "resembling flat" . Shade tree or sunny bench rural engineering.