Paul Decker Traction Bars (1 Viewer)
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$189 holy smokes. What I could do with that. Got a link to this bar?
One word "Triangulation" which this has none.
Fman said:
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I'm running one in my FJ40. Mudrak and ButchBuilt only used Decker's bars when they do spring overs (did in Butch's case). I'm perfectly happy with it.
Paul Decker used to build his own SCCA race cars, so I trust his suspension design:
http://dsr.racer.net/chassis/decker/page1.htm
Dave
Paul Decker used to build his own SCCA race cars, so I trust his suspension design:
http://dsr.racer.net/chassis/decker/page1.htm
Dave
I had one similar . It only grabbed on the top like decker's .I still had alot of axlewrap . I do have a v-8 though it might be okay with an f or 2f but if it was me I'd opt to use a bar that grabs the housing top and bottom .It's alot better design.
woooody
el Jefe
LCOwner said:
http://www.deckersonline.com/services51832.html
Why do you say there is no triangulation? The spring factors in, I think. it's fixed at the front, right?
I've seen several rigs equipped with DEcker's bar, and haven't seem any with axle wrap issues.
Did you look at the drawings lower in the web page?
Ross Woody
Vallejo, Ca
TLCA #7704
Deckers bar works. It acts as the third link in a three link suspension (the other two being the forward section of the leaf springs).
And before the naysayers start with "this cant work becuase the leaf springs flex" stop and think where the forward motion of your truck comes from (rear axle) and how it is transfered to the vehicle (through the front section of your leaf springs).
I have, and a number of friends have used these for years with no problems. Rubicon, Fordyce, daily commute tested......
PMK
And before the naysayers start with "this cant work becuase the leaf springs flex" stop and think where the forward motion of your truck comes from (rear axle) and how it is transfered to the vehicle (through the front section of your leaf springs).
I have, and a number of friends have used these for years with no problems. Rubicon, Fordyce, daily commute tested......
PMK
IMO
limits travel, and can only travel with pinion angle change, and actually makes it really bad with droop. limited travel is what you would like, then ok. Design and diagram make alot of assumtions on arc of travel of the stationary point located above the axle with the actual travel and rotation of the housing through the spring travel, which can be vary different between setups, springs, shackle lengths, SUA or SOA, etc...
still relies on the spring for lower rotation point, if the springs were able to control the axle why would you need a traction bar. ever see a spring S ? this design still can allow that to happen. " ghetto bar " are all similiar in design. WILL it help, yes it can/might, will it eliminate no.
limits travel, and can only travel with pinion angle change, and actually makes it really bad with droop. limited travel is what you would like, then ok. Design and diagram make alot of assumtions on arc of travel of the stationary point located above the axle with the actual travel and rotation of the housing through the spring travel, which can be vary different between setups, springs, shackle lengths, SUA or SOA, etc...
still relies on the spring for lower rotation point, if the springs were able to control the axle why would you need a traction bar. ever see a spring S ? this design still can allow that to happen. " ghetto bar " are all similiar in design. WILL it help, yes it can/might, will it eliminate no.
I've got the Deckers bar in my SOA V8 fj40. I cant tell you how its worked so far as i havent had a chance to get the beast out yet for some test runs since its resurection. But, i'll keep ya'll posted whenever I can.
you must triangulate a anti-wrap bar, otherwise it will not keep your springs from twisting up......
or a three point mount like this: https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=50919
or a three point mount like this: https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=50919
orangefj45
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paul decker puts a lot of thought and R&D into everything he sells/produces. all his stuff it top notch and i would not hesitate to put any of it on my cruiser.
i do not have one of these bars on my rig because i built my own but i have seen a few rigs with them on the rubicon and they work flawless. enough said.
i do not have one of these bars on my rig because i built my own but i have seen a few rigs with them on the rubicon and they work flawless. enough said.
orangefj45
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HawkDriver said:
sure you could, but what equipment would you need and how much time would it take you to come up with your own design and then actually build it?! this is a bolt on that works.
orangefj45 said:
looks like it needs welding to me......i could be wrong
All of Pauls stuff is very well thought out. He puts a lot if time and thought into the products before he starts to market them. Most of his marketing is word of mouth. If you have a question on the traction bar call Paul and go over it with him and make sure it is the right application for you rig.
I am a little biased as I have Pauls stuff on my rig and it is currently at his shop for a few more items. This land cruiser stuff is addicting.
I am a little biased as I have Pauls stuff on my rig and it is currently at his shop for a few more items. This land cruiser stuff is addicting.
orangefj45
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2badfjs said:looks like it needs welding to me......i could be wrong
you're absolutely correct. i should have phrased my reply differently. just like any other traction bar kit, this one requires the use of a welder and some common hand tools.
looks cheap to me
orangefj45 said:
now that look at it a bit closer, it looks like a solid bar, that would work like a swing arm.
solid mount at the front (no shackle) i see that it keeps the diff from rotating backwards.
got it!!!!
