200 Series 5.7 engine..Is it made in Japan or Alabama?

[pagemaster]

Can anyone who knows for sure confirm this?

I know Toyota makes the Land Cruiser for the U.S market in Japan (although not ALL lc are made there) but something tells me that the 5.7 litre engine that is the US version is made along side the Tundra/Sequioa engines in Alabama.

Why I say this?

All over the world the Land Cruiser is equipped with the old 4.7 iForce, V8 diesel and v6 engine. Nowhere have I found the Landcruiser with the 5.7 except USA. With that being said, the Land Cruiser is rated at the exact same specs as the Tundra...I thought the SAE changed the way the engine are tested so something tells me there is not much difference underneath with respect to the powertrain compared to the Tundra.

Also, the Land Cruiser for the US market is low volume. I can't see Toyota making the 5.7 in Japan in low volumes for only the LC and Lexus LX.

Finally, the old 4.7 is still bolted to the 5 speed, no six speed. This is perhaps the same Tundra tranny.

Can anyone with a LC or anyone who has been up close in person tell what maybe the engine says or the manaul or VIN>

I live in Canada and we don't get the LC so I can't just go down to the dealer and look.

 

[hks3sgte]

I doubt it. Land Cruiser has always been completely built in Japan. Even the 100 series didn't share the exact Tundra engine/transmission. They're built to a different "spec" than the U.S. built Toyotas.

 

[bwbski26]

are we sure that toyota isnt shipping the 5.7 thats built in the us to japan for the us spec 200?

 

[pagemaster]

are we sure that toyota isnt shipping the 5.7 thats built in the us to japan for the us spec 200?

That is what I am thinking. I was just over at the Toyota pressroom and the Landcruiser/Tundra tranny and engine are at spec identical. Furthermore, the Land Cruiser 200 that is available in Mexico is only available with the 4.7 iForce engine. The Tundra also is not available with the 5.7 in Mexico.

From a manufacturing point of view if you are not going to install the 5.7 iforce across your entire lineup, it would not make any sense to build a 5.7 v8 engine in Japan for a small volume of LC/LX models that are destined for the United States and LX for some parts of the world when the majority of enignes are produced in Alabama.

There is no way Toyota would ever be able to sell the Land Cruiser 200 with the 4.7 iForce in the USA. Especially with the price tag of $70k and America's desire for engine power.

 

[hks3sgte]

The base model in many countries has the 1GR v6...

 

[bwbski26]

so we think the 5.7 is produced in the us, and then shipped to japan and installed there?

 

[ParadiseCruiser]

>> Something tells me that the 5.7 litre engine that is the US version is made along side the Tundra/Sequioa engines in Alabama.

Yep.

http://tinyurl.com/2jekmx


What I find interesting though, is that while the 2008 JDM LX-570 will use the 3UR-FE and be a URJ200 truck, the 2008 JDM Land Cruiser will be a UZJ200 using a modified 2UZ-FE.

Since both Land Cruisers (for export) and LX-570s delivered in Japan will use the 3UR-FE, the question is this: Is there another 3UR-FE manufacturing facility over there?

It's all too complicated

Cheers, R -

 

[007-FJC]

The engine was developed in Japan, produced in Japan for the prototypes, DURR. The sticker on the LandCruiser will tell you where everything is. For example, the sticker on the FJ-Cruiser: Japan = 100%

And thats the sticker you want to look at

 

[pagemaster]

>>
What I find interesting though, is that while the 2008 JDM LX-570 will use the 3UR-FE and be a URJ200 truck, the 2008 JDM Land Cruiser will be a UZJ200 using a modified 2UZ-FE.

Since both Land Cruisers (for export) and LX-570s delivered in Japan will use the 3UR-FE, the question is this: Is there another 3UR-FE manufacturing facility over there?

It's all too complicated

Cheers, R -

From what I have found from visiting many different Toyota sights from various countries around the world is that the Land Cruiser is available only in America with the 5.7 or 3UR-FE engine. All other countries have the Land Cruiser with 4.7iForce or 4.5 v8 diesel while some very select areas have the 4.0 v6 engine available.

From your link, it states that Toyota can make up to 270,000 v8 enigne and up to 130,000 v6 engines. Add them all up and you have 400,000 engines coming from the Alabama plant.

Lets say Toyota hits their target of 200,000 Tundras and 60,000 Sequioa then Toyota has up to 140,000 engines left for other plants.

I can see Toyota squeezing a few 5.7 into the LX and LC as they are not high volume models in America.

I can't see Toyota have their own seperate plant in Japan for such few engines that are going to America and gfew other places in the world.

To the last poster. Yes I do need the window sticker. It will tell me all however I live in Canada where we do not get the Land Cruiser so I was hoping if someone who is stopping by a dealer can find out.

 

[justimaginejack]

ok last time I checked Toyota was in the process of a Worldwide Lexus Rollout, in time to be part of the newer models sales cycle. they are growing at a huge clip. The LX 570 will be sold worldwide with the 5.7 Litre engine, so yes it would make sense to have an engine plant in japan. Since TMC (formerly ARACO) is still responsible for assembling the entire vehicle, I would Imagine the plant is either the same or similar to the last one. But I would be shocked and Pissed if the 5.7 engine was made here. Lexus has less than 10 defects per million, toyota doesn't have that, and no other manufacturere is close.
Also, The 5.7 might "psec out" the same but it is not the same engine. The 4.7 Litre engine Used in Previous Tundra, LC,LC GX, and 4runner, were all vey similar but not the exact same. Each one had different toques, fuel and tow ratings.
The I-force, has a 10K plus towing capacity, the 5.7 Litre LC/LX engine is rate lowing by some 2,000. pounds. While this has to do with more than the engine, the engine is the main component.
Also, The LandCruiser is Legendary, and it the sole reason Toyota had it's initial success in the US.
It may be one of the smaller Markets for the Model, but make no mistake we are Toyota's most profitable and important market.

 

[dtt255]

The LC is 100% japan....fyi

 

[007-FJC]

The LC is 100% japan....fyi

Them are the words on my FJ-Cruiser. Them are the words I love to hear/read. Thank you

 

[CivicFerio]

I used to have a GX470. When I removed the Lexus Link because they are changing it to digital signal. The system is made my delphi and assembled in mexico.

The window sticker also said 100% build in Japan. It was assembled in the Tahara Plant. Maybe, as long as the vehicle is assembled in Japan, it can be considered a 100% even though the parts are source elsewhere in the world?

 

[FirstToy]

I used to have a GX470. When I removed the Lexus Link because they are changing it to digital signal. The system is made my delphi and assembled in mexico.

The window sticker also said 100% build in Japan. It was assembled in the Tahara Plant. Maybe, as long as the vehicle is assembled in Japan, it can be considered a 100% even though the parts are source elsewhere in the world?

That is interesting CF, however is Lexus Link a port-installed or dealer installed option? It is possible that is a "US market" add-on.

 

[pagemaster]

The window sticker also said 100% build in Japan. It was assembled in the Tahara Plant. Maybe, as long as the vehicle is assembled in Japan, it can be considered a 100% even though the parts are source elsewhere in the world?

100% built in Japan is different that 100% parts content from Japan

 

[Jim_Chow]

That is interesting CF, however is Lexus Link a port-installed or dealer installed option? It is possible that is a "US market" add-on.

I've seen new toyota's labelled 100% Japan parts yet they had goodyear tires. Maybe those tires were made in Japan?

 

[CivicFerio]

I've seen new toyota's labelled 100% Japan parts yet they had goodyear tires. Maybe those tires were made in Japan?

To add more log to the fire. Our auto dimming mirrors on LX470 are made by Gentex. I wouldnt be surprised if the internals are made in China then shipped to Japan.

 

[fjsmurf]

Found this on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...viewitem=&item=170178154751&_trksid=p3907.m29


I would think the engine counts more than 5%?

 

[Thermodyn]

Found this on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6443&viewitem=&item=170178154751&_trksid=p3907.m29


I would think the engine counts more than 5%?

Hmmm...the plot thickens.



Thanks for posting FJSmurf. Welcome to MUD!

 

[pagemaster]

Found this on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6443&viewitem=&item=170178154751&_trksid=p3907.m29


I would think the engine counts more than 5%?

mmm...

Incredible. Nice find.


I do know that many Toyota and Lexus vehicles are shipped with the last final assembly done I believe at port when arriving in the U.S.A.