Garage heat

tltaylor22 · 11-23-03, 06:28 PM

I've got a 1200 sq ft garage seperate from my house and have a list a mile long to do to the 40 and the 80 this winter. I'm looking for some type of heating unit. I'm in favour of some sort of built in unit as apposed to a space heater. Any suggestions?

cruiser_guy · 11-23-03, 06:42 PM

It depends alot on what fuel source you have available and how high the ceiling is. I'd be tempted to use a unit heater or a radiant tube heater if you have natural gas or propane available but you'd need at least a 10 or 12' ceiling so you don't burn yourself if you get too close!

yooper · 11-24-03, 10:49 AM

I don't like having flame in the garage, so I went with electric oil filled radiators. Works good - more expensive than gas, though.

tltaylor22 · 11-24-03, 10:20 PM

I think I could lay a gas line out there, actually thinking of putting in a bathroom too. Wife hates her kitchen sink turning black when I wash my hands. I hadn't thought of the radiant overhead heat. The rafters are 10'. I use the space above for storage.

Poser · 11-24-03, 10:34 PM

I have a radiant heat tube spanning the 60' section of my 40x60. I have an eleven foot roof. It is fired off Propane. Works real well. Not sure if I would want to have it in any closer to the ground, as it heats objects, and it does a damn fine job! I was in a 25x20 that I heated with a old home furnace. It worked well, but the radiant heat is a far better set up.

-Steve

hammerhead · 11-25-03, 02:28 AM

I live in the mountains where fire wood is abundant and free. Fire hazard is not an issue since I'm a welder and everything was already setup for safety all the way down to the chemical cabinets. With the fan on, it only takes about 30 minutes to bring it up to a comfortable temp, from the 10 degree area. I can even cook my lunch on it or make a hot beverage for the trail (I've been known to skip out for some wheeling on slow days or to test a mod on my 40).

PHAT MAX · 12-01-03, 08:21 PM

we use a natural gas heater mounted on the wall....works great!

cruiserrg uses radiant floor heating and he says that if he spills water, it is evaporated 1/2 hour later! sweet!

dinkleberry · 12-02-03, 09:59 AM

Waste oil heaters:

http://www.lanair.com/home.cfm

http://www.americasprideonline.com/W...%20.FrameIndex

dylan · 12-02-03, 08:56 PM

[quote author=Dinkleberry link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg70152#msg7015 2 date=1070384390]
Waste oil heaters:

http://www.lanair.com/home.cfm

http://www.americasprideonline.com/W...%20.FrameIndex
[/quote]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

IDave · 12-03-03, 03:53 AM

My mechanic has one of those. I change my oil a lot, but not enough to justify one of those!!

dinkleberry · 12-03-03, 05:34 PM

The garage I used to share with a few others had an old one. The owner picked it up used. Don't think it was too expensive.

Uninsulated barn in the middle of winter and it would cook you out. We used to accept oil from friends and neighbors and never ran out.

Junk · 12-03-03, 07:30 PM

[quote author=Dinkleberry link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg70152#msg7015 2 date=1070384390]
Waste oil heaters:
http://www.lanair.com/home.cfm[/quote]

Hmm. Any heater website that has a built in ROI calculator is a hint it's a little out of my range.

I prefer forced hot air like this

dinkleberry · 12-05-03, 03:32 PM

You've got a point (on top of yer head). I have to admit I didn't actually look at those prices til now.

[quote author=Junk link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg70929#msg7092 9 date=1070505038]
Hmm. Any heater website that has a built in ROI calculator is a hint it's a little out of my range.

You've got a point (on top of yer head). I have to admit I didn't actually look at those prices til now.

I prefer forced hot air like this

[/quote]

I'm sure you can produce enough to heat a few garages!

the shed guy · 12-09-03, 04:57 PM

We made this from a couple of truck brake drums, choke in the square top bit, ash drawer and air control on the bottom, steel band around the middle, and the top is great for heating stuff, and is open in the pic, and is where you drop the wood in.....

Sir_Titus · 12-14-03, 10:22 AM

Wood heat is the best way to go, plus you can heat up dolar store chili on it that will help you heat it with your own natural gas like junk

nuclearlemon · 12-15-03, 01:18 PM

[quote author=the shedguy [Aus/CAC] link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg73504#msg7350 4 date=1071014222]
We made this from a couple of truck brake drums, choke in the square top bit, ash drawer and air control on the bottom, steel band around the middle, and the top is great for heating stuff, and is open in the pic, and is where you drop the wood in.....

[/quote]

just make sure you have a good floor...those drums get heavy real quick

kstatecruiser · 12-19-03, 08:07 AM

I know you said no space heaters, but I'm partial a the "jet engine" space heaters. I don't know what they are really called, but the ones that run on kerosene or diesel fuel. Even a small one can heat up a large area quickly.

Niner · 12-19-03, 11:43 AM

[quote author=kstatecruiser link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg77753#msg7775 3 date=1071846435]
I know you said no space heaters, but I'm partial a the "jet engine" space heaters. I don't know what they are really called, but the ones that run on kerosene or diesel fuel. Even a small one can heat up a large area quickly.
[/quote]

Around here we call those salamanders, or torpedo heaters.

woody · 12-19-03, 11:50 AM

I'm in the middle of installing a 75k BTU Hot Dawg heater from Modine....propane or natural gas, mounts 1" from the ceiling, 3" external exhaust, electric fans, thermostat controlled. Hope to fire it this weekend....should heat my 4-stall nicely.

Junk · 12-19-03, 07:48 PM

[quote author=woody link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg77904#msg7790 4 date=1071859858]
I'm in the middle of installing a 75k BTU Hot Dawg heater from Modine....propane or natural gas, mounts 1" from the ceiling, 3" external exhaust, electric fans, thermostat controlled. Hope to fire it this weekend....should heat my 4-stall nicely.[/quote]

Pic and estimate please.

FJ40-GARAGE · 12-23-03, 03:45 PM

[quote author=kstatecruiser link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg77753#msg7775 3 date=1071846435]
I know you said no space heaters, but I'm partial a the "jet engine" space heaters. I don't know what they are really called, but the ones that run on kerosene or diesel fuel. Even a small one can heat up a large area quickly.
[/quote]

Guess you mean something like http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=2582407743
this ?

Thats a Eberspächer Swingfire Heater , used in Unimogs and similar Trucks.
Works with Gasoline and produces 11KW , i got one of these to heat my garage if it gets to cold.
Just needs a batterie to start, then it works on its own !

They even sell on US-Ebay !!

hammerhead · 12-25-03, 09:45 PM

For less than 8 bucks worth of fuel (including chainsaw) I scored enough firewood to keep the shop warm for a couple months. Only took about 6 hours and gave me an excuse to wheel around out there while I was at it. Found a killer batch of waterfalls to crawl up in the bottom of one of the washes. Cheap and fun. That's what I call efficient garage heat.

Junk · 01-04-04, 09:07 PM

[quote author=Junk link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg78150#msg7815 0 date=1071888519]
Pic and estimate please.

[/quote]

Pic and/or pic Woody so I know what you're talking about. I got a small budget for this, for my 24x26 garage but the need is increasing every day. Thanks.

Poser · 01-05-04, 06:31 PM

[quote author=Junk link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg84671#msg8467 1 date=1073275659]
Pic and/or pic Woody so I know what you're talking about. I got a small budget for this, for my 24x26 garage but the need is increasing every day. Thanks.
[/quote]

Here ya go...

http://www.gas-space-heater.com/modine-hot-dawg.html

OlympiaFJ60 · 01-05-04, 07:49 PM

I like the waste oil route. Thinking of getting on from Northerntool.com http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...6&categoryId=0 Cheaper than others I have seen and enough heat for a small shop or garage. Best of all it gets rid of the excess waste oil, not just motor oil but gear and tranny oils too.

Also some cheap, do-it-yourself kits or plans.

Brandon
Olympia, WA
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...earth/me4.html
http://www.heco.net/Wasteoil.htm

CruisinGA · 01-05-04, 08:31 PM

I've got 1020 watts of light in a 1.5 car garage.

I hate working in the dark. I don't use my heater, all I have to do is close it up and turn all the lights on.

Junk · 01-06-04, 07:31 AM

[quote author=CruisinGA link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg85238#msg8523 8 date=1073359899]
I've got 1020 watts of light in a 1.5 car garage.

I hate working in the dark. I don't use my heater, all I have to do is close it up and turn all the lights on.

[/quote]

Uh, dude, you're like in GA, all you would need is the heat from a 1 watt bulb.

hammerhead · 01-07-04, 02:28 AM

...or light off a fart...

11-23-03, 06:28 PM	#1
tltaylor22 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 333	Garage heat I've got a 1200 sq ft garage seperate from my house and have a list a mile long to do to the 40 and the 80 this winter. I'm looking for some type of heating unit. I'm in favour of some sort of built in unit as apposed to a space heater. Any suggestions?

11-23-03, 06:42 PM	#2
cruiser_guy IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mixco, Guatemala/Cranbrook & Vancouver, B.C., Canada TLCA# 16387 Posts: 6,554	Garage heat It depends alot on what fuel source you have available and how high the ceiling is. I'd be tempted to use a unit heater or a radiant tube heater if you have natural gas or propane available but you'd need at least a 10 or 12' ceiling so you don't burn yourself if you get too close!

11-24-03, 10:49 AM	#3
yooper How did I get here? Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: A beautiful house. TLCA# 13011 Posts: 5,489	Re:Garage heat I don't like having flame in the garage, so I went with electric oil filled radiators. Works good - more expensive than gas, though.

11-24-03, 10:20 PM	#4
tltaylor22 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 333	Re:Garage heat I think I could lay a gas line out there, actually thinking of putting in a bathroom too. Wife hates her kitchen sink turning black when I wash my hands. I hadn't thought of the radiant overhead heat. The rafters are 10'. I use the space above for storage.

11-24-03, 10:34 PM	#5
Poser Oh...Durka Durka Durka. Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: in the shop TLCA# 1856 Posts: 13,949	Garage heat I have a radiant heat tube spanning the 60' section of my 40x60. I have an eleven foot roof. It is fired off Propane. Works real well. Not sure if I would want to have it in any closer to the ground, as it heats objects, and it does a damn fine job! I was in a 25x20 that I heated with a old home furnace. It worked well, but the radiant heat is a far better set up. -Steve

11-25-03, 02:28 AM	#6
hammerhead IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central, Utah Posts: 2,171	Re:Garage heat I live in the mountains where fire wood is abundant and free. Fire hazard is not an issue since I'm a welder and everything was already setup for safety all the way down to the chemical cabinets. With the fan on, it only takes about 30 minutes to bring it up to a comfortable temp, from the 10 degree area. I can even cook my lunch on it or make a hot beverage for the trail (I've been known to skip out for some wheeling on slow days or to test a mod on my 40).

12-01-03, 08:21 PM	#7
PHAT MAX NOT Yoopers Avatar! Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,367	Garage heat we use a natural gas heater mounted on the wall....works great! cruiserrg uses radiant floor heating and he says that if he spills water, it is evaporated 1/2 hour later! sweet!

12-02-03, 09:59 AM	#8
dinkleberry IH8MUD Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 503	Re:Garage heat Waste oil heaters: http://www.lanair.com/home.cfm http://www.americasprideonline.com/W...%20.FrameIndex

12-02-03, 08:56 PM	#9
dylan IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 295	Re:Garage heat [quote author=Dinkleberry link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg70152#msg7015 2 date=1070384390] Waste oil heaters: http://www.lanair.com/home.cfm http://www.americasprideonline.com/W...%20.FrameIndex [/quote] $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

12-03-03, 03:53 AM	#10
IDave IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: McCall, ID TLCA# 13705 Posts: 7,362	Garage heat My mechanic has one of those. I change my oil a lot, but not enough to justify one of those!!

12-03-03, 05:34 PM	#11
dinkleberry IH8MUD Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 503	Garage heat The garage I used to share with a few others had an old one. The owner picked it up used. Don't think it was too expensive. Uninsulated barn in the middle of winter and it would cook you out. We used to accept oil from friends and neighbors and never ran out.

12-03-03, 07:30 PM	#12
Junk IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: buggerville nj Posts: 5,548 Blog Entries: 1	Re:Garage heat [quote author=Dinkleberry link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg70152#msg7015 2 date=1070384390] Waste oil heaters: http://www.lanair.com/home.cfm[/quote] Hmm. Any heater website that has a built in ROI calculator is a hint it's a little out of my range. I prefer forced hot air like this

12-05-03, 03:32 PM	#13
dinkleberry IH8MUD Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 503	Re:Garage heat You've got a point (on top of yer head). I have to admit I didn't actually look at those prices til now. [quote author=Junk link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg70929#msg7092 9 date=1070505038] Hmm. Any heater website that has a built in ROI calculator is a hint it's a little out of my range. You've got a point (on top of yer head). I have to admit I didn't actually look at those prices til now. I prefer forced hot air like this [/quote] I'm sure you can produce enough to heat a few garages!

12-09-03, 04:57 PM	#14
the shed guy IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: DOWN UNDER Posts: 784	Garage heat We made this from a couple of truck brake drums, choke in the square top bit, ash drawer and air control on the bottom, steel band around the middle, and the top is great for heating stuff, and is open in the pic, and is where you drop the wood in.....

12-14-03, 10:22 AM	#15
Sir_Titus IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maracopa Posts: 171	Re:Garage heat Wood heat is the best way to go, plus you can heat up dolar store chili on it that will help you heat it with your own natural gas like junk

12-15-03, 01:18 PM	#16
nuclearlemon IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: meh-ico, colorado TLCA# 1431 Posts: 7,769	Garage heat [quote author=the shedguy [Aus/CAC] link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg73504#msg7350 4 date=1071014222] We made this from a couple of truck brake drums, choke in the square top bit, ash drawer and air control on the bottom, steel band around the middle, and the top is great for heating stuff, and is open in the pic, and is where you drop the wood in..... [/quote] just make sure you have a good floor...those drums get heavy real quick

12-19-03, 08:07 AM	#17
kstatecruiser IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colton, CA Posts: 111	Garage heat I know you said no space heaters, but I'm partial a the "jet engine" space heaters. I don't know what they are really called, but the ones that run on kerosene or diesel fuel. Even a small one can heat up a large area quickly.

12-19-03, 11:43 AM	#18
Niner I lurk there for I am! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Readfield, WI TLCA# 13372 Posts: 852 Blog Entries: 1	Garage heat [quote author=kstatecruiser link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg77753#msg7775 3 date=1071846435] I know you said no space heaters, but I'm partial a the "jet engine" space heaters. I don't know what they are really called, but the ones that run on kerosene or diesel fuel. Even a small one can heat up a large area quickly. [/quote] Around here we call those salamanders, or torpedo heaters.

12-19-03, 11:50 AM	#19
woody Admin Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Appleton, WI TLCA# 1548 Posts: 9,353 Blog Entries: 1	Re:Garage heat I'm in the middle of installing a 75k BTU Hot Dawg heater from Modine....propane or natural gas, mounts 1" from the ceiling, 3" external exhaust, electric fans, thermostat controlled. Hope to fire it this weekend....should heat my 4-stall nicely.

12-19-03, 07:48 PM	#20
Junk IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: buggerville nj Posts: 5,548 Blog Entries: 1	Re:Garage heat [quote author=woody link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg77904#msg7790 4 date=1071859858] I'm in the middle of installing a 75k BTU Hot Dawg heater from Modine....propane or natural gas, mounts 1" from the ceiling, 3" external exhaust, electric fans, thermostat controlled. Hope to fire it this weekend....should heat my 4-stall nicely.[/quote] Pic and estimate please.

12-23-03, 03:45 PM	#21
FJ40-GARAGE Bad Homburger Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bad Homburg / Germany TLCA# 6289 Posts: 337	Garage heat [quote author=kstatecruiser link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg77753#msg7775 3 date=1071846435] I know you said no space heaters, but I'm partial a the "jet engine" space heaters. I don't know what they are really called, but the ones that run on kerosene or diesel fuel. Even a small one can heat up a large area quickly. [/quote] Guess you mean something like http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=2582407743 this ? Thats a Eberspächer Swingfire Heater , used in Unimogs and similar Trucks. Works with Gasoline and produces 11KW , i got one of these to heat my garage if it gets to cold. Just needs a batterie to start, then it works on its own ! They even sell on US-Ebay !!

12-25-03, 09:45 PM	#22
hammerhead IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central, Utah Posts: 2,171	Re:Garage heat For less than 8 bucks worth of fuel (including chainsaw) I scored enough firewood to keep the shop warm for a couple months. Only took about 6 hours and gave me an excuse to wheel around out there while I was at it. Found a killer batch of waterfalls to crawl up in the bottom of one of the washes. Cheap and fun. That's what I call efficient garage heat.

01-04-04, 09:07 PM	#23
Junk IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: buggerville nj Posts: 5,548 Blog Entries: 1	Re:Garage heat [quote author=Junk link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg78150#msg7815 0 date=1071888519] Pic and estimate please. [/quote] Pic and/or pic Woody so I know what you're talking about. I got a small budget for this, for my 24x26 garage but the need is increasing every day. Thanks.

01-05-04, 06:31 PM	#24
Poser Oh...Durka Durka Durka. Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: in the shop TLCA# 1856 Posts: 13,949	Re:Garage heat [quote author=Junk link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg84671#msg8467 1 date=1073275659] Pic and/or pic Woody so I know what you're talking about. I got a small budget for this, for my 24x26 garage but the need is increasing every day. Thanks. [/quote] Here ya go... http://www.gas-space-heater.com/modine-hot-dawg.html

01-05-04, 07:49 PM	#25
OlympiaFJ60 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 692	Garage heat I like the waste oil route. Thinking of getting on from Northerntool.com http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...6&categoryId=0 Cheaper than others I have seen and enough heat for a small shop or garage. Best of all it gets rid of the excess waste oil, not just motor oil but gear and tranny oils too. Also some cheap, do-it-yourself kits or plans. Brandon Olympia, WA http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_...earth/me4.html http://www.heco.net/Wasteoil.htm

01-05-04, 08:31 PM	#26
CruisinGA Ramblin Wreck Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Georgia Tech Posts: 5,779	Re:Garage heat I've got 1020 watts of light in a 1.5 car garage. I hate working in the dark. I don't use my heater, all I have to do is close it up and turn all the lights on.

01-06-04, 07:31 AM	#27
Junk IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: buggerville nj Posts: 5,548 Blog Entries: 1	Re:Garage heat [quote author=CruisinGA link=board=14;threadid=7948;start=msg85238#msg8523 8 date=1073359899] I've got 1020 watts of light in a 1.5 car garage. I hate working in the dark. I don't use my heater, all I have to do is close it up and turn all the lights on. [/quote] Uh, dude, you're like in GA, all you would need is the heat from a 1 watt bulb.

01-07-04, 02:28 AM	#28
hammerhead IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central, Utah Posts: 2,171	Re:Garage heat ...or light off a fart...