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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 1,715
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Drywall problem - what to do
I'm gradually going thru every room in my house, freshening everything up, getting ready to put it on the market. I'm working on the addition that was put on the back of the house back in the 70's, getting a new ceiling, paint, carpet, etc. Started cleaning up the walls the other day, mudding up the various holes and dings, I noticed that all the joints in the drywall are cracked. The corners are badly cacked open. Hmmmm...
So, I started digging with a stiff knife. Apparently, whoever did the drywall job was too cheap to tape the joints. There is NO TAPE on any of the joints or corners. Every joint is now cracked open, it's worse above and below the windows where the joint is short and the wall will flex the most. What to do? I can fake the corners, get some pre-pasted tape then mud over them, it doesn't really matter if the corners are not a perfect 90d angle. But, I don't wanna try this on the sheet butt joints, it will make a "lump" in the wall. Am I gonna have to have the entire room skimmed? Did I mention that I hate mudding and sanding walls? __________________ KB1OSF '87 Toyota xcab SR5 - SAS'd, stuff '98 Lexus ES300 '04 Toyota Highlander |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 115
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Not a professional drywaller just a DIYer whose projects take too long. I have had success with butt joints by cutting down the joint at a 45 degree angle (doesn't have to be perfect) and then taping it with fiberglass tape. First course of mud covers the fiberglass tape flush but not much wider. Use 8" knife on second course - again a thin coat to hide the fiberglass tape and 'smooth' the finish. Last course (if needed) is a 12" knife. Sand with a wet sponge - if you are careful with the courses, sanding won't take much effort nor will it create much dust.
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IH8MUD Junior
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Go with a paper tape. I've had problems with the mesh tape cracking. The trick is to feather out the joints. Tape with a 4"knife pulling it tight just so you have enough mud to adhear the tape to the wall. Let it dry. Block coat it with a 10" knife make sure you leave just enough to cover the tape and whipe the edges good. After this dries skim it with a 12. You just about want to put it on and take it off just filling in the imperfections. Make sure you thin the mud a little when you tape and skim just mix and no thinning on the block coat. There is times I have put an additional skim coat on. Your going to get a buildup no matter what, the trick is to keep your coats as thin as you can and feather them out wide
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Calgary
Posts: 802
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If your selling it and dont care, then try using some DAP (caulking) to fill the cracks. That way you too can be referred to as that POS PO.
Karl __________________ 1997 LX 450 190000kms, 285 Revos, Supercharged You cant kill yourself on a pogostick. (Harry Parker, world famous geostatistician) |
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IH8MUD Addict
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I would caulk the corners, and don't be stingy get as much in the crack as you can.
On the butt joints, I'm with Thornton, use paper tape and feather it really wide. You'd be suprised how unnoticeable it'll be if you do this. __________________ Cameron Mosley '85 FJ60 - Daily Driver UNDER THE BRIDGE TOUR 2008 Last edited by werd; 08-20-08 at 11:08 AM. Reason: Sorry my gammar isn't that good... |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 3,206
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Do it right or don't bother. Yes, you'll have to blend the tape lines out 8-12" on either side of the joints, but it's not the end of the world.
-Spike __________________ His 1994 TLC 'White Elephant' +6"/35" Locked and loaded. Hers '95 TLC Bare bones. "I don't understand this business of illegal aliens giving birth to American citizens. If your cat has kittens in the oven, would you call them biscuits?" -Unknown |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: In The Storm Cellar!
Posts: 1,670
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x2 spike
__________________ 1968 fj40 under restoration and nearly complete! thanks to everyone here!!! 1972 fj55 1963 fj45 swb.... Tornado Alley Cruisers tlca member #14777 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 1,715
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OK, I'll give it a try, I can't make it worse, I guess. I have several knives, all the way out to a nice 12"-er. Stopped and bought another tub of mud and a roll of tape tonight.
I can't do a job half-way. It's gotta be done right. Thanks. __________________ KB1OSF '87 Toyota xcab SR5 - SAS'd, stuff '98 Lexus ES300 '04 Toyota Highlander |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tucson AZ
Posts: 999
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I rarely sand drywall compound/texture anymore. I have moved to using a damp sponge to smooth things out. Much less mess that way.
__________________ 1994 FZJ80, OME850/864 w/ CSC 1.5" spacers, 285/75 r16 BFG AT/KO, 131K "SUBDUCTION leads to OROGENY" "Strip Mining Prevents Forest Fires!" "Stop Continental Drift!" "Tuff Schist" "Reunite Gondwanaland" |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 1,715
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I've never done the wet sponge method, but I'll have a guy in there this weekend skimming the new ceiling, I'm hoping he'll show me some tips.
What's the deal with this newer "lightweight" joint compound? Is it really that much better and easier to use like the packaging promises? __________________ KB1OSF '87 Toyota xcab SR5 - SAS'd, stuff '98 Lexus ES300 '04 Toyota Highlander |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Tucson AZ
Posts: 999
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Quote:
Never used it. I stick to the regular joint compound. I am slow and steady. __________________ 1994 FZJ80, OME850/864 w/ CSC 1.5" spacers, 285/75 r16 BFG AT/KO, 131K "SUBDUCTION leads to OROGENY" "Strip Mining Prevents Forest Fires!" "Stop Continental Drift!" "Tuff Schist" "Reunite Gondwanaland" |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 137
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also don't buy the pre-mixed compound, the dry compound in the bag is much better for sanding an spreading than the pre-mix
__________________ Kelly M Menlo Park, CA 1991 FJ80 - 225K 3FE power going strong but slowly, diesel conversion in the future? |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Depending on the width of the cracks and whether you want to take the short cut approach.....get a small tub of DAP lightweight spackling, smooth it out with a plastic knife, paint the wall and done. It's vrey forgiving and you won't need to sand it. I've made quick repairs with it that have lasted over the years.
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