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Old 01-08-08, 05:06 PM   #1
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Red face basement sump pump

Any recommendations? The pedestal-type pump that's been in use in my basement has died....took the thing about 12 years....motor is smoked....


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I didn't think y'all had water issues up there in cheese land. I have a pedestal unit as well and it works for now. With all the water we've had in KS it gets a workout pretty frequently. At any rate when this one dies I'm planning on installing a submersible unit with a water powered backup. Submersibles are more expensive than pedestal units but usually last longer. The H2O powered backups are nice when the power goes out, batteries only last so long before they die. I'd hate to come home after a weekend away to 1' of water in my basement, especially if it was preventable.

Quick Google search and found this one:
Hi-Performance Water-Powered Backup Sump Pumps


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After the last in a string of renovation store submersibles died rather than putting the spare one in I dropped ~$350 on a commercial/industrial rated cast iron model and it is 10 times the pump in that it is quieter and smoother and about 3 times the weight.

I live in the country so no municipal water for a water powered backup, just a battery backup good for about 1 hour of pumping time. Plan B is that the top of the sump pit is about 2" lower than the slab and I have a floor drain about a foot away that is 1" higer than the top of the sump but 1" lower than the top of the slab.
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yeah, my plan B is the sanitary sewer drain that is 3" away and has a groove in the floor for overflow to run across....when I bought the house, the PO had the sump pushing water into the sanitary sewer directly, rather than out of the house and into the storm system....idiot....


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We have 2 sump pumps going at my mothers house..either my brother or I are on 2 hrs notice to move if one burns out or clogs (and burns out) .... the willow trees are "bad" boys and the roots follow water into the sump pits. We have probably replaced about 8-10 of them over the last 10-15 years ... we are now trying the submersible type .. one new last spring and the other in the fall.... we'll see how well they do. but some days these cycle about every 10 minutes for 3 or 4 minutes at a time.

One of the key selection criteria for my current house is/was that it had to be on an elevated site

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I just checked mine....it's a Wayne brand....zero issues in the 12+ years I've been here....

FORTUNATELY, the water quit rising when I pulled it last nite...so "no rush" as this point....suspect I'll head into somewheres tomorrow and pick up a good one to replace it...

I like the submerged idea for quieter operation....good tip!


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My mother has a submersible in her house and you almost never hear it kick in. It may be partially due to the cover over the sump pit but at her place she doesn't deal with the same amount of water as we do in KS. A cover or at least a partial cover should cut the noise if it is an issue. Break out the plasma and make lid.


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All the times that I've ever really needed a sump pump were the times that the power was out...when I've bought them, I've always bought the battery back up ones to ensure it running when the power goes out.

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Gould ST31 SumpThing (TM)

Features and Benefits

* Corrosion-resistant construction

* Cast iron body

* Thermoplastic impeller and cover

* Quick disconnect cord assembly

* Heavy duty, portable and compact

* Stainless steel fasteners

Applications

* Basement draining

* Water transfer

* Dewatering

* Effluent Transfer

Noland plumbing supply:Goulds Pumps Water Technology | ST31 SumpThing (TM)


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Gould pumps are good. Get one of their heavy duty models and you won't be disapointed.


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I install the submersible sump pumps. I like the Goulds, Little Giant, and Zoeller sump pumps. All are very similar and you can get all of them with a installed float switch (I don't like the diaphram switches).

Products by Zoeller Pump Company

Little Giant Pump Company

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