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IH8MUD Regular
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Apparently Being a Tool Myself doesn't Qualify as Actually Having Tools
What would be the best route for someone who is tool-less to acquire the right tools? Is buying a XXX-piece tool set all-in-one thing worth it? or is buying each tool as you need it the best way to go?
I started to do something really simple today to my truck and found that I was unprepared in the tool department. ? ![]() __________________ Cruiser? What Cruiser? 2003 Mazda 6i wifey's i'm listening to: http://www.last.fm/user/octongue ______________ |O|=TOYOTA=|O| |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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A decent sized Craftsman mechanic set would be a good start. Look for one with 6-point sockets.
Craigslist is great for picking up tools at a deep discount. |
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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
Posts: 10,178
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if you want inexpensive, new, probably decent or good quality, and with terrific warranty, get a set from Costco
yes garage sales or Craig will be cheaper but it'll take a while to get all you need __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 |
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IH8MUD Addict
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If you are going the Craftsman route, sign up for the Craftsman Club and watch the special sales they have. There is a pretty good sale going on over the next couple weeks for club members on multi-piece tool sets. Not a bad way to go for the shade tree mechanic.
FWIW, the higher number of piece sets at Sears have significantly better socket wrenches than the basic kits. __________________ If you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly. Steve the Fly Fishing Science Teacher 1995 FZJ80 ~ Lockers, winchless ARB, 2.5" OME, bent-up, rattling, leaky Borla exhaust, MetalTech Sliders, multiple oil leaks, 285 Revos. http://web.mac.com/stevenlent/cruiser/cruiser.html |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Austin, TX until 8/04 then Chicago, IL
Posts: 244
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Here the thread on my search for tools:
http://forum.ih8mud.com/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=762 I'm real happy with what I have. Patrick __________________ Eleanor is an 86 FJ60, 170K, OME 2.5 inch, 33 inch BFG, Custom front and rear bumpers, and driven by a poor a$$ med student. Med school--> Where fun comes to die. Last edited by cruiserhunter; 01-06-08 at 11:14 PM. Reason: wrong link |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,124
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If you do buy crapsman, I'd try to find a used set. The current sockets/ratchets from crapsman really suck in quality. Terrible finish and poorly made.
__________________ 69 FJ40 with some minor mods... 2000 Cummins powered Dodge with some power enhancements. DO NOT SUPPORT TRAIL GEAR!!!!! bad ethics = bad business! http://www.paypalsucks.com |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: central nm
Posts: 836
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pawn shop...
__________________ what shall I drive today: Oct 84 tan fj60, 260k mi -- (to be installed) 2.5" BDS suspension, SROR front bumper, Rowlands storage panels Sept 84 tan fj60, 202k -- new to me 85 Honda Accord, 110k -- commuter 91 Kawasaki Concours, 50k -- on the road again |
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KI6MIE
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I'm still OK with Craftsman, especially the professional series. Thier new ratches are especailly nice. Buying a big combo set on sale can get you a lot of tools for not too much $$. My dad bought me one of these way back, (around 1976!) when I got my first car, and the sockets from that set are still use today. I also still have a bunch of Craftsman sockets and extensions from my grandfather, still marked with his # when he worked in the shipyard during WWII. Very cool to use those.
The other option if your are short on $$, is to buy a whole bunch of tools at Harbor Frieght. You could get a pretty complete set for $150 or so. Then every time you use a tool and know you have a need for it, replace it with a better quality piece, and relegate the HF stuff to the trail box. I really hate low quality tools, though, and even my trail box by now is mostly decent tools. If Craftsman has really gone down hill, that's too bad. I've bought tons of Craftsman stuff over the years, and have been happy with all of it. The sockets I use all the time are Craftsman of various vintages from the last 25 years. They have survived being driven with my impact, cheater bars and the like. I don't baby them and have broken maybe 3-4 sockets in my life. I did notice their large Crescent wrenches no longer say "Forged in USA", so I bought a different brand. __________________ Andrew 1971 FJ-40 Rubicon tested 1976 FJ40 RIP 1984 FJ-60 H55f, 4.11, OME, Daily Driver 1989 FJ-62 117k-son's driver for now. 1997 FZJ-80 Factory sub-tank, and other tricks Last edited by Cruiserdrew; 01-08-08 at 11:19 PM. |
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IH8MUD Regular
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Home Depot (Husky) and Lowe's (Kobalt) also sell some decent tool sets, and they come with a lifetime warranty just like Craftsman. I like the old Husky stuff, but it's really just personal preference. I would start out with a decent ratchet set to begin with, Sears usually has them on sale during the year for 50% off which is a pretty good deal. The larger the set you get, the better the deal, but sometimes they fill it with a lot of uneccesary tools just to increase the part count.
The very basic tools I would recommend are Ratchet set. 3/8 is most common, A few 1/2 and 1/4 will probably come packaged with it Decent set screwdrivers, cheap ones tend to destroy screwheads Needle nose and slip joint pliers 8" Crescent wrench These items should be of decent quality because they will probably be used often. Then as you find a need for more, you can just go buy them as you go along. |
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IH8MUD Rookie
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Pawnshops are great for good quality tools. They usually sell Snap-on,Mac etc. at 50% or less of book price. Also check the Sears ads, every week it seems like they have different tools on sale. They may not be made as good as they use to be, but they are still the easiest to get replaced.
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IH8MUD Regular
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Craftsman is the lowest quality I would buy. Technically there are only a few truly professional brands of tools (snap-on, mac, matco, and a few european companies). Craftsman has a series of professional tools, but husky and kobalt do not. What is the difference between professional and not? Professional tools have lower tolerances, are more user friendly and give you more access to tight places. I have a very large craftsman set and I love it, but there are some things you have to go higher quality on. Personally snap-on extensions are better and I love mac airtools.
__________________ The Boone '85 4runner (sold) '91 FJ80 (3fe powa) '94 FZJ80 (lockered) '98 4runner (sold) "Buying parts I don't need, with money I don't have, to impress people I don't know." Co-Founder of the Lake Oswego Militia |
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IH8MUD Regular
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I live by my dad's idea. Find out what you need specifically, and buy the best one you can afford. Yes it takes time to get all of your tools this way, but it really gives me the time to figure out exactly which tools I need, and which brand to go with. I'm a bit of a brute, so I have broken several sockets from every manufacturer I can think of.
![]() Mac, Snap-on, Proto, Craftsman, Cornwell, Matco... you name it, I broke it. The more expensive ones take more to break, but they can break, and they usually come with warranties to match what you paid for them. I also think you can get by with a cheap set, and replace what you break with better quality tools as you go along. It's really up to you. __________________ 93 FZJ80, locked, slider-ed, with 35" TRXus MTs. "Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn." |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Calgary
Posts: 798
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Go to a pawn shop. They usually have gobs of tools - most probably stolen, but you can find really good tools for cheap.
__________________ 1997 LX 450 190000kms, 285 Revos, Supercharged You cant kill yourself on a pogostick. (Harry Parker, world famous geostatistician) |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 582
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I have this dilemna everytime I buy a tool. Although I really believe you can't go wrong buying top end tools, the fact is Snap-on/Mac/Matco are just soooo expensive. And since I rarely break my handtools and those tool trucks don't stop at my front door, I can't justify it.
I also agree that Craftsmen has gone downhill. BUT, the fact is I still regularly buy Craftsmen tools. Why? Because they still are descent for the price (i.e. value). But I also buy Kobalt and Husky and really don't notice any quality difference between the three and I think all have lifetime warranties (for handtools, not power tools). I have also heard good things about tools from Tractor Supply (Masterhand) but don't have firsthand experience. My guess is they are likely made by the same company as Craftsmen or Kobalt or Husky. The one thing I will give Craftsmen is their selection of specialty tools. The tool depts at Lowes and Home Depot just aren't as good as a decent Sears. But all three stores are everywhere, and that is another plus (for buying and warranty replacements). I rarely buy Craftsmen power tools anymore, however. My experiences as of late is that they are just crap. Defenitely wait for specials on the Craftmen tool sets - they have some good ones. And one last note - If you see a good deal on a Metric Set, go ahead and get it. 99% of the time a Metric socket/wrench will fit SAE, but not the reverse. Don't ask me why, but it's true (for sockets and wrenches - not sure about Allen head bolts). And since you own a cruiser, Metric is what you need. __________________ 87 FJ60 31 x10.5 Silent Armors, LEDed, H4ed, Damplified, 4Runner calipered, and re-knuckled |
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