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Old 09-17-09, 09:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sheetrocking question

currently renovating a bedroom, bathroom, closet. moving lots of plumbing and electrical in the bathroom, closet area, which means lots of holes in the sheetrock to patch later. adding a wall and new closet and will be putting up lots of new sheetrock. at what point do i just rip out all the sheetrock and put up all new instead of trying to use what i can and patch whats left. its starting to get kinda ridiculous and think i should just do all new.

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Old 09-17-09, 10:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Sheetrock is cheap; I would rip it out. Also, finishers would probably rather deal with properly installed new sheets than having to patch a bunch of holes. Of course it isn't that hard to patch a hole but it sounds like this is many holes.

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Rip it all out. Patching sucks, and it's very difficult to make them disappear. Sheetrock is too cheap.

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thats what i thought, i just need to do it from scratch.

btw - i am the finisher, as well as the electrician, plumber, painter, tile-setter, trim carpenter, etc.

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same here, rip it out, patching takes longer.

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X6 (or whereever we are) rip it all out. Sheetrock is cheap and will make your other issues much easier (i.e. fixing plumbing/wiring).

One tip my cousin just showed me for cutting holes in new drywall. On the front of the sheet, score the outline of your electrical box or whatever thru the paper. Then on the back, cut a circle slightly larger in diameter around the area. Tap it out from the front with a hammer and you have a perfect cut on the front with beveled edges to the back. Really easy to fit it that way.

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I agree that it sounds like it would be best to rip it out and start fresh.

If you are going to do it yourself, you need to at least pronounce it right. Around here the guys that put it up pronounce it "cheeeet-rawk"

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Rent a "bazooka" for taping off all those joints as it makes short work of it. Or better yet, hire someone to tape it. Taping drywall sucks.
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I agree that it sounds like it would be best to rip it out and start fresh.

If you are going to do it yourself, you need to at least pronounce it right. Around here the guys that put it up pronounce it "cheeeet-rawk"
cant i just shorten it to say "i'm gonna hang some 'rock"?

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the cheapest way to make old Sheetrock look good....

get a nice hand sander and sand the crap out of all the walls, ceilings. Patch holes... sand... prime paint. When you patch holes, feather your patch like a foot or two or three past the patch area to blend it in.
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the cheapest way to make old Sheetrock look good....

get a nice hand sander and sand the crap out of all the walls, ceilings. Patch holes... sand... prime paint. When you patch holes, feather your patch like a foot or two or three past the patch area to blend it in.
And texture the walls. It's hard as hell to make a patch look good on smooth walls. But a little orange peel, and you'll never see it. You can get texture in an aerosol can at Home Depot for small jobs.

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the cheapest way to make old Sheetrock look good....

get a nice hand sander and sand the crap out of all the walls, ceilings. Patch holes... sand... prime paint. When you patch holes, feather your patch like a foot or two or three past the patch area to blend it in.
I was talking to a friend who also is a professional sheetrock contractor and he agrees with beaufort.

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You probably already have thought of this...insulating those walls also, nice to be able to sleep in quiet if someone is up late watching a movie..

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You probably already have thought of this...insulating those walls also, nice to be able to sleep in quiet if someone is up late watching a movie..
yes, most of them are already insulated and i planned on keeping it that way

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if you were thinking of changing baseboards/quarter rounds/window trim,etc... it is best to change all the sheetrock.If you weren't changing them, you could break in even with labor/materials by just patching. In the bath were major work is needed, change all.
Don't forget to put new internet cables, video cables,surround sound cables, surviellance/security cables(window alarm switch) b4 new rock. cables are cheap to put in now.

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RIP away,hard to make patches vanish,esp. when in well lit areas. mike

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removed sheetrock yesterday, easy access to moving the electrical, etc. 4x12 sheet of rock is only $9 locally, once i saw that its a no-brainer!

thx for the inputs....

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Be careful on imported sheetrock. There has been some homeowner's nightmares about bad batches.
Chinese-made drywall ruining homes, owners say - CNN.com

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yeah, i heard all about that, a lot of it came in during katrina rebuilding and my dad was worried they used some in his house after it flooded (they didnt)

i am going to be sure to use GP sheetrock

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some guys do three mud and sand coats, I generally do two, just sand well.

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