Selling the FJ40

Herb · 08-27-07, 03:11 PM

This stinks!

New house is squeezing us, so I am selling the cruiser before selling any of my bikes.

Its going on craigslist..but I'll hold it for any of the crew that wants a trail beater. I paid $1000 for it when it wasn't running, got it running and poured another $1500 in parts and tires into it. I think $1700 is fair...what do you think?

The ad will read:

Rare 1971 Toyota Landcruiser FJ40 in great shape. Camoflage!!

Inline 6 cylinder engine, 3 speed transmission and transfer case, all in great working order. Runs smooth and straight. Weber 38 DGES carb and headers. Brakes were replaced on all wheels in the last year. Four wheel drive works. All gauges work, except for the speedometer. Horn and parking brake work too!

Bestop soft top in almost new condition, no rips or tears. Soft doors, hard doors and half doors are included.

Rear bench seat with seatbelts, new driver and passenger shoulder belts, 4 brand new 31x10.5 tires, stereo and speakers .

Rust is not too bad for this vintage...limited to the rocker panels, rear corners and rear sill. The early 70’s FJ40s had better, thicker metal than the late 70’s or 80’s model years. The frame is solid.

$1,700

greytandy · 08-27-07, 03:20 PM

Sell the bikes! You can always easily buy another bike, but finding a running 40 in this area is a challenge. Don't forget the rear axle rebuild!

And the boys, don't they just love the 40?

Seriously, don't sell it. I felt the financial squeeze as well a while back, but my wife talked me out of selling it. It doesn't cost anything to let it sit.

If you do decide to seriously sell, get as much as you can! (but don't sell it)

- Dave

Herb · 08-27-07, 03:32 PM

Thanks Dave....you aren't making this any easier! Believe me..I've been over and over this...

I won't forget the rear axle rebuild! I plan to be a part of the club and to ride shotgun on a wheelin' trip in the near future. I just can't afford to keep this rig right now. My time and funds are crunched...

Felix · 08-27-07, 03:32 PM

Don't do it!!!! I would think that the time alone you've spent on the rig is worth more than $1,700.

This post scares me. Mostly because it would suck for you to sell your 40, but also because we just bought a house, too. I hope this isn't in my future.

splitshot · 08-27-07, 03:34 PM

I agree with Dave..
Don't sell it, I sold my '72 and before it even got off the property, I went out and bought my '69. You'll end up buying another one later and have to dump alot of money into it.

Herb · 08-27-07, 03:42 PM

This house is just one thing after another. AC/Furnace just went tits up....

I agree...this will suck.

fjman · 08-27-07, 04:24 PM

Bummer,
I really think you could get more for it though. I wouldn't be afraid to ask $3K for it, especially if its running nicely. $1700 seems a little low (anyone thinking "maybe I should buy it" is thinking, fjman - shut the hell up!)

What do you think felix, more than $1700?

greytandy · 08-27-07, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Herb

This house is just one thing after another. AC/Furnace just went tits up....

Yep, same thing happened to me. Our A/C, a POS unit the builder put in, went belly up in less than 10 years. Our new super duper A/C was $4K. I feel your pain. I kept the 40 and I'm so glad I did. Everything worked out. Sorry I'm not making this easy for.

greytandy · 08-27-07, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix

This post scares me. Mostly because it would suck for you to sell your 40, but also because we just bought a house, too. I hope this isn't in my future.

When was your new abode built? And, where did you move to?

jhaha · 08-27-07, 05:55 PM

DON'T DO IT

Really

.....THINK ABOUT IT........

You don't want to do it!!

Herb · 08-27-07, 08:35 PM

I took it off craigslist just now..you all are right, I need to think this over for a week or so before letting the frustration of money issues get the best of me.

Thanks for the wise counsel...

I still may decide to sell it, but at least I'll know that I had good, solid reasons to do so ... maybe I should write all of those reasons down so that when I kick myself in the ass in a few years, I can recite the list.

Felix · 08-28-07, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by greytandy

When was your new abode built? And, where did you move to?

Built in 1941, brick. Just moved a few blocks up the street.

Felix · 08-28-07, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Herb

I took it off craigslist just now..you all are right, I need to think this over for a week or so before letting the frustration of money issues get the best of me.

Thanks for the wise counsel...

I still may decide to sell it, but at least I'll know that I had good, solid reasons to do so ... maybe I should write all of those reasons down so that when I kick myself in the ass in a few years, I can recite the list.

Good call!!! I seriously doubt that you could buy back a truck running that well for $1,700. And this one, you know already. The question really is... will the 1,700 or 2K really make or break you? If so, then I guess you need to sell. If not, then you're much better off just parking the truck for a while and riding it out. When things settle down a bit, you'll still have a truck who's history you know and is already paid for.

jmvar · 08-28-07, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Herb

This house is just one thing after another. AC/Furnace just went tits up....

I agree...this will suck.

did you just buy the house? did you get a warranty? worth it to pay $400 up front just in case all the appliances decide to take a dump all at once. you might be able to still get one.

if you can live with fans for a while now that fall is coming, wait for the warranty to kick in and use it for the new HVAC system.

good luck.

Herb · 08-28-07, 09:39 AM

Thanks again to all of you. I do feel like a dolt for posting it up on c'list for sale, then taking it off. I won't do that again....I was just waaaay to quick to sell my stuff off.

Herb · 08-28-07, 09:43 AM

We did just buy the house...and we are looking into the home warranty to see what we can do.

It still works...but the AC unit is leaking water all over and our tech said it wouldn't last through the end of summer. So, we're crossing our fingers and breaking out the fans just in case. I'm not buying anything until we run that home warranty to ground (probably doesn't cover coils or compressors).

This is a 15 yr old crappy system that needs replaced. Even if the home warranty doesn't cover it...we'll be ok if we can wait through the winter and get something done in the spring.

greytandy · 08-28-07, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Herb

It still works...but the AC unit is leaking water all over and our tech said it wouldn't last through the end of summer.

Water from condensation?

Herb · 08-28-07, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by greytandy

Water from condensation?

That is what I said....but the guy from Croppe Metcalfe was adamant that it was a leak. He said that there was just too much water.

However, if it was a leak....would it be cooling the house? I mean, my house is currently COLD.

greytandy · 08-28-07, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Herb

That is what I said....but the guy from Croppe Metcalfe was adamant that it was a leak. He said that there was just too much water.

DING DING DING!!!! You said the magic words - Croppe Metcalfe. We stupidly bought a service contract with them when we first moved in years ago. Every year a tech would come out and give us a different reason to replace the A/C. We fired them. *I* figured out we just had a slow leak of freon. The unit needed recharging every year and would freeze up on hot days. Also, the lawn care guys bashed up the fins real good too, making the unit very inefficient. We replaced the unit.

Water should only be coming from condensation, which is normal. You can get a few gallons on a good day. Our condensate pump runs a lot. There is no water anywhere else in the A/C system. If you have cold air, and you're unit isn't freezing up, what's the problem? Sure, it could be inefficient due to a number of factors, but if it seems to work, no problem. Save your money and call somebody better. We used Presidential. Of all the outfits we tried, they seemed the most competent. They installed a kick-ass Carrier for a great price (relative to other quotes we got).

Blue77FJ40 · 08-28-07, 10:58 AM

"Hats off" to you for picking up on a scam. and your dog looks better w/o that silly hat!

greytandy · 08-28-07, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue77FJ40

"Hats off" to you for picking up on a scam. and your dog looks better w/o that silly hat!

If poor Doug's going to lose his 40, I want it to be for a good reason! BTW, not my dog. I just liked the pic.

Here's the original pic.

Herb · 08-28-07, 11:55 AM

Dave,
Thanks, we fired them already. They were coming to our "new" house to try to get us on another contract...we declined. So, I will chill out about the A/C until the spring....and, I will keep the '40.

I really feel silly for reacting like that....

greytandy · 08-28-07, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Herb

I really feel silly for reacting like that....

Happens to the best of us!

forrunner · 08-29-07, 11:32 AM

Dave is right.

DON'T SELL IT!!! You will regret it.

Park it and cover it. Good 40's are getting harder to come by.

H2o · 08-29-07, 03:59 PM

If anything, buy another truck. it will make you feel better. that is what i did.

Jakes40 · 08-29-07, 06:34 PM

herb,
glad you came to your senses.
next time post up I've got a budy that might be able to help you out.

jmvar · 08-29-07, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by greytandy

DING DING DING!!!! You said the magic words - Croppe Metcalfe. We stupidly bought a service contract with them when we first moved in years ago. Every year a tech would come out and give us a different reason to replace the A/C. We fired them. *I* figured out we just had a slow leak of freon. The unit needed recharging every year and would freeze up on hot days. Also, the lawn care guys bashed up the fins real good too, making the unit very inefficient. We replaced the unit.

Water should only be coming from condensation, which is normal. You can get a few gallons on a good day. Our condensate pump runs a lot. There is no water anywhere else in the A/C system. If you have cold air, and you're unit isn't freezing up, what's the problem? Sure, it could be inefficient due to a number of factors, but if it seems to work, no problem. Save your money and call somebody better. We used Presidential. Of all the outfits we tried, they seemed the most competent. They installed a kick-ass Carrier for a great price (relative to other quotes we got).

There should be a condensation line that routes the water/condesation outside or into a drain. It should be 3/4" PVC. Sometimes those clog and cause the system to leak inside the HVAC room somewhere. Take that line apart and blow some water through it to make sure it's clean.

My neighbor had this happen and actually flooded half his basement and into my garage (townhome). It was so much water he thought it was the water supply line into the house and was getting ready to replace it to the tune of $1300. I told him to make sure it wasn't the condensation line and sure enough it was.

PS- sorry, I meant to quote Herb

greytandy · 08-29-07, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jmvar

There should be a condensation line that routes the water/condesation outside or into a drain. It should be 3/4" PVC. Sometimes those clog and cause the system to leak inside the HVAC room somewhere. Take that line apart and blow some water through it to make sure it's clean.

My neighbor had this happen and actually flooded half his basement and into my garage (townhome). It was so much water he thought it was the water supply line into the house and was getting ready to replace it to the tune of $1300. I told him to make sure it wasn't the condensation line and sure enough it was.

PS- sorry, I meant to quote Herb

They can most definitely clog! Especially if your "expert friend" h

08-27-07, 03:11 PM	#1
Herb IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia TLCA# 18324 Posts: 596	Selling the FJ40 This stinks! New house is squeezing us, so I am selling the cruiser before selling any of my bikes. Its going on craigslist..but I'll hold it for any of the crew that wants a trail beater. I paid $1000 for it when it wasn't running, got it running and poured another $1500 in parts and tires into it. I think $1700 is fair...what do you think? The ad will read: Rare 1971 Toyota Landcruiser FJ40 in great shape. Camoflage!! Inline 6 cylinder engine, 3 speed transmission and transfer case, all in great working order. Runs smooth and straight. Weber 38 DGES carb and headers. Brakes were replaced on all wheels in the last year. Four wheel drive works. All gauges work, except for the speedometer. Horn and parking brake work too! Bestop soft top in almost new condition, no rips or tears. Soft doors, hard doors and half doors are included. Rear bench seat with seatbelts, new driver and passenger shoulder belts, 4 brand new 31x10.5 tires, stereo and speakers . Rust is not too bad for this vintage...limited to the rocker panels, rear corners and rear sill. The early 70’s FJ40s had better, thicker metal than the late 70’s or 80’s model years. The frame is solid. $1,700 __________________ '71 FJ40

08-27-07, 03:20 PM	#2
greytandy That's "Greyt" "Andy" Join Date: May 2006 Location: MD 'Burbs of DC TLCA# 16669 Posts: 1,177	Sell the bikes! You can always easily buy another bike, but finding a running 40 in this area is a challenge. Don't forget the rear axle rebuild! And the boys, don't they just love the 40? Seriously, don't sell it. I felt the financial squeeze as well a while back, but my wife talked me out of selling it. It doesn't cost anything to let it sit. If you do decide to seriously sell, get as much as you can! (but don't sell it) - Dave __________________ 1970 FJ40 (AKA "Big Red") 2007 FJ Cruiser (Black Diamond )

08-27-07, 03:32 PM	#3
Herb IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia TLCA# 18324 Posts: 596	Thanks Dave....you aren't making this any easier! Believe me..I've been over and over this... I won't forget the rear axle rebuild! I plan to be a part of the club and to ride shotgun on a wheelin' trip in the near future. I just can't afford to keep this rig right now. My time and funds are crunched... __________________ '71 FJ40

08-27-07, 03:32 PM	#4
Felix Magic on the Mic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alexandria, VA TLCA# 15204 Posts: 1,539	Don't do it!!!! I would think that the time alone you've spent on the rig is worth more than $1,700. This post scares me. Mostly because it would suck for you to sell your 40, but also because we just bought a house, too. I hope this isn't in my future. __________________ Felix '75 FJ40 - kinda stock-ish Capital Land Cruiser Club

08-27-07, 03:34 PM	#5
splitshot What's next? Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Podunk, Arizona Posts: 1,735	I agree with Dave.. Don't sell it, I sold my '72 and before it even got off the property, I went out and bought my '69. You'll end up buying another one later and have to dump alot of money into it. __________________ '69 fj40 CSC#103 A dry heat still cooks a turkey


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08-27-07, 03:42 PM	#6
Herb IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia TLCA# 18324 Posts: 596	This house is just one thing after another. AC/Furnace just went tits up.... I agree...this will suck. __________________ '71 FJ40

08-27-07, 04:24 PM	#7
fjman IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fairfax, Va Posts: 634	Bummer, I really think you could get more for it though. I wouldn't be afraid to ask $3K for it, especially if its running nicely. $1700 seems a little low (anyone thinking "maybe I should buy it" is thinking, fjman - shut the hell up!) What do you think felix, more than $1700? __________________ 1986 fj60 - dents, rust and lots of character President - Capital Land Cruiser Club Before you lapse or surrender your life insurance, explore your options for a life settlement. Contact me for a free policy appraisal.

08-27-07, 05:55 PM	#10
jhaha IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 274	DON'T DO IT Really .....THINK ABOUT IT........ You don't want to do it!! __________________ 1974 fj40 frame off Aquala tub, 4 wheel disc brakes, 350, Q78's Soon to be SOA, TBI and 37's Landcruisers are Hardcore

08-27-07, 08:35 PM	#11
Herb IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia TLCA# 18324 Posts: 596	I took it off craigslist just now..you all are right, I need to think this over for a week or so before letting the frustration of money issues get the best of me. Thanks for the wise counsel... I still may decide to sell it, but at least I'll know that I had good, solid reasons to do so ... maybe I should write all of those reasons down so that when I kick myself in the ass in a few years, I can recite the list. __________________ '71 FJ40

08-28-07, 09:39 AM	#15
Herb IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia TLCA# 18324 Posts: 596	Thanks again to all of you. I do feel like a dolt for posting it up on c'list for sale, then taking it off. I won't do that again....I was just waaaay to quick to sell my stuff off. __________________ '71 FJ40

08-28-07, 09:43 AM	#16
Herb IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia TLCA# 18324 Posts: 596	We did just buy the house...and we are looking into the home warranty to see what we can do. It still works...but the AC unit is leaking water all over and our tech said it wouldn't last through the end of summer. So, we're crossing our fingers and breaking out the fans just in case. I'm not buying anything until we run that home warranty to ground (probably doesn't cover coils or compressors). This is a 15 yr old crappy system that needs replaced. Even if the home warranty doesn't cover it...we'll be ok if we can wait through the winter and get something done in the spring. __________________ '71 FJ40

08-28-07, 10:58 AM	#20
Blue77FJ40 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MD Posts: 1,174	"Hats off" to you for picking up on a scam. and your dog looks better w/o that silly hat! __________________ '77 FJ40: HFS, 33's, Locked and Low'd

08-28-07, 11:55 AM	#22
Herb IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia TLCA# 18324 Posts: 596	Dave, Thanks, we fired them already. They were coming to our "new" house to try to get us on another contract...we declined. So, I will chill out about the A/C until the spring....and, I will keep the '40. I really feel silly for reacting like that.... __________________ '71 FJ40

08-29-07, 11:32 AM	#24
forrunner IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Rockville, Maryland TLCA# 8091 Posts: 77	Dave is right. DON'T SELL IT!!! You will regret it. Park it and cover it. Good 40's are getting harder to come by. __________________ 93 4Runner, 22RE, 5 speed, SAS w/Alcan springs, OME FJ80 Rear Springs, All Pro Links, 5.29 gears, ARB Locker front and rear, 35" MTR's. 06 4Runner Sport, 4.7 V8, Stock

08-29-07, 03:59 PM	#25
H2o IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 TLCA# 15012 Posts: 339	don't sell If anything, buy another truck. it will make you feel better. that is what i did. __________________ 1974 Black FJ40 1987 Green Mini Truck

08-29-07, 06:34 PM	#26
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 265	herb, glad you came to your senses. next time post up I've got a budy that might be able to help you out. __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work!