No Garage - What do YOU do?

greytandy · 03-02-07, 06:09 AM

Hi Guys:

I have a garage but it is tiny and hopelessly cluttered beyond belief. I'd like to do some multi-day/multi-week projects on my 40 but no place indoors to do them. How do you you guys without garages handle this? Can you rent space? I'd impose on friends but they don't have garages either, and I doubt they'd want my crap cluttering up their house anyway.

- Dave

Blue77FJ40 · 03-02-07, 06:31 AM

I wait for a nice day. Schlep tools in and out of the shed if it's a multi-day project.

Herb · 03-02-07, 07:16 AM

Dave, could you make enough space in your garage for those days that you work on the truck?

I built shelves in my garage and packed a bunch of the crap up high....then, got my kids' stuff more organized and now I have room for the cruiser. Everytime I drive it, work on it, or get to it...I have to move some stuff, but that isn't really a big deal.

greytandy · 03-02-07, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Herb

Dave, could you make enough space in your garage for those days that you work on the truck?

Hey Doug:

No, unfortunately, the garage is barely big enough to fit a vehicle when empty. I have Elfa shelving on two walls and free-standing heavy duty shelving and an upright freezer on the other. There's just no way.

- Dave

Felix · 03-02-07, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by greytandy

Hey Doug:

No, unfortunately, the garage is barely big enough to fit a vehicle when empty. I have Elfa shelving on two walls and free-standing heavy duty shelving and an upright freezer on the other. There's just no way.

- Dave

I've seen it. He's right.

I'm with Dan. I'd just wait for a stretch of nice weather and pack tools in and out each day. Yeah, my neighbors would probably prefer that the 40 wasn't on jack-stands for a week straight, but my relationship with most of them is cool enough that they don't complain. It probably also helps that I live next to a lot that some dude uses as a junk storage place. The neighbors REALLY hate him and have been fighting for zoning enforcement for years. By comparison, I'm not too bad. Plus, your truck is good enough looking that it would be obvious that you're fixing a temporary problem. It not as if it's all rusted to hell and on cinder blocks for 6 months.

Herb · 03-02-07, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Felix

It not as if it's all rusted to hell and on cinder blocks for 6 months.

...that is my truck!

greytandy · 03-02-07, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Felix

I'm with Dan. I'd just wait for a stretch of nice weather and pack tools in and out each day. Yeah, my neighbors would probably prefer that the 40 wasn't on jack-stands for a week straight, but my relationship with most of them is cool enough that they don't complain. It probably also helps that I live next to a lot that some dude uses as a junk storage place. The neighbors REALLY hate him and have been fighting for zoning enforcement for years. By comparison, I'm not too bad.

Yeah, I guess that's my only recourse. The HOA Nazi's can be pretty obnoxious when they send the Gestapo agents for periodic drive throughs. I guess I'll just have to takes my chances.

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Originally Posted by Felix

Plus, your truck is good enough looking that it would be obvious that you're fixing a temporary problem.

Just "good enough looking"?!?! Why she's a beauty!

Herb · 03-02-07, 08:42 AM

The way I see it, this will keep the HOA Nazi's from focusing on your lawn, the worn trim on the house, the Elvis statue on the front lawn and the host of other things that they get all bent about.

greytandy · 03-02-07, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Herb

the Elvis statue on the front lawn

Actually, it's pink flamingos and the Virgin Mary.

WckedMidas · 03-02-07, 02:40 PM

lay your ass down on the ground like the rest of us unlucky bastards do who dont have a garage to keep our tools in yet alone our junk.

IM jokeing but im serious to. IF it real could out get big ol tarp from wallmart and some bricks or twolitters filled with watter attach to the tarp place over vehicle with the hood proped up run the tarp to the ground in front of the vehicle . and place a heater under it with you. U get big enuf tarp u should be able to cover whole truck front to back go aditional like 10 to 15 feet past the truck on both ends if ya wanted. I use to do that and stick one them kerosene heaters under it. Did two trans swaps on heeps in the snow 12 inchs on ground wearing jeans and tshirt. in front my house on public street.

colangut · 03-02-07, 04:21 PM

Dave,

I got by for many years with out a garage and spent about 10 years helping Josh Fleming work on cruisers over at his place with out a garage.

Best advice I can give you is plan your tool box really well so that your not always running to the house for another tool and so that your tool box is not so heavy that you dread hauling it out there. This is also key when you go somewhere to work on your truck. If you bring what you need, you won't waste a trip back to get just one more tool.

Also, get a set of Carhart or Dickies insulated coveralls in black to resist stains. Along with some nice insulated mechanics gloves and a padded pit matt from Autozone, you can work in the cold with out too much trouble.

Dewalt makes some great 18V flashlights and lanters, as well as 18v cordless impacts that have some punch to them.

I used to put all on my tools on a cart and wheel that out to the truck. Hand truck works well too.

A small 4x5 tarp and 10x12 tarp, some tent stakes and a few straps makes for good sun blocks and improvised tents. I built my V8 FJ40 out in the driveway under a home made tent one rainy August about 10 years ago. Hooked a few ratchet straps together across two trees and made a simple tent.

Now, I have a garage, tons of tools but no time

Always seems to work that way...

-Stumbaugh

Max in DC · 03-03-07, 08:51 AM

I had the exact same issue - small garage with an FJ-40, plus all my tools, yard tools, lawnmower, etc. etc. piled on top of the truck. It was a disaster. I couldn't even get to the truck to work on it.

I finally ended up building a shed right next to the garage to hold all the non-truck stuff. Worked out great. I have to squeeze around the sides of the truck, and it's still cramped, but now I can actually do some work in there.

My wife wasn't too happy about losing some backyard to the shed, but now there's less grass to mow!

macneill · 03-03-07, 08:58 AM

I feel your pain.

I have no garage, driveway or yard. I wait for a nice day, find a spot on the street in front of our place and work on it on the street ala "Brooklyn Style."

In fact, today I'm going to mount lights on my rear bumper!

D'Animal · 03-03-07, 09:06 AM

I got tired of doing most everything mentioned above. I saved up money and put up a 40x60. Some say it is technically not a garage. I don't know what the breaking point is between a shop and a garge. But I guess I exceeded it.

macneill · 03-03-07, 11:03 PM

For what it's worth, I did install these lights today... on the street.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/100-series-cruisers/140994-piaa-510s-rear-tjm-bumper.html

greytandy · 03-04-07, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by macneill

For what it's worth, I did install these lights today... on the street.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=140994

No more tailgaters - that's funny. Looks like nice work.

D'Animal · 03-04-07, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by D'Animal

I got tired of doing most everything mentioned above. I saved up money and put up a 40x60. Some say it is technically not a garage. I don't know what the breaking point is between a shop and a garge. But I guess I exceeded it.

You decide.

reffug · 03-04-07, 03:13 PM

no its not a garge.

it looks more like paradise.

cruiser88 · 03-04-07, 03:39 PM

funny

ive had a garage twice in my renting days.the first time was a 10/20 storage building with no power.i used the shit out of that one.then i had a buddy that had a garage in which i rented from him.never used the dam thing

.now im stuck once again working outside

with no room to build really

macneill · 03-04-07, 09:21 PM

Thanks. I'll try it out at night next weekend waiting with baited breath for some clown with their high beams on tailgaitting...

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Originally Posted by greytandy

No more tailgaters - that's funny. Looks like nice work.

F-junker · 03-07-07, 10:48 AM

mareno wool long underwear or polypro underwear. worth it's weight in gold. I work outside and wear mereno wool socks every day, even in the summer. it's soft and won't make you itch. the stuff is great. I've got a garage full of motorcycles and tools with no room to work on my truck pita.

Jakes40 · 03-07-07, 08:18 PM

I have a “garage” full of my wife’s junk well ¼ full now I threw some of it out to make room for cruiser parts but I had to put up one of those tarp style carports “city laws no unregistered vehicles in city limits”. But it is an eye sore in the back yard.

colangut · 03-10-07, 02:26 PM

Dave,

This is what you need, I am selling on CL for $450 but will sell for $400.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...291442957.html

Awesome way to roll tools out to a project. Folding lid keeps the sun and rain off off tools (hot tools in summer suck).

I hate to sell, but have no room to store. Is like new.

-Stumbaugh

greytandy · 03-10-07, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stumbaugh

Dave,

This is what you need, I am selling on CL for $450 but will sell for $400.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...291442957.html

Awesome way to roll tools out to a project. Folding lid keeps the sun and rain off off tools (hot tools in summer suck).

I hate to sell, but have no room to store. Is like new.

-Stumbaugh

John:

Thanks for thinking of me. That looks very nice. My wife just bought me a tool cabinet from Sears, so I think she would take offense.

Not to hijack my own thread, but have you completely given up on vehicles? It's a shame to sell all this nice stuff.

colangut · 03-10-07, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by greytandy

John:

Thanks for thinking of me. That looks very nice. My wife just bought me a tool cabinet from Sears, so I think she would take offense.

Not to hijack my own thread, but have you completely given up on vehicles? It's a shame to sell all this nice stuff.

No, I have not given up, but I have taken a big step back and now is not the time (too busy with work and familly). I'd buy the right truck if I see one come along, but I'd have to store it for now. My next project will be more of a bolt together deal than the comprehensive restorations and rebuilding from the ground up like I have done so many times in the past 22 years. This time it will be a rusty truck with a full aqualu aluminum body. No welding, no body work, no panel fabrication, no motor and tranny swaps, no DIY paint and body work. Just hand tools and pre-fabricated stuff. The level that I was playing at before is too much for me to do as a hobby with the life I have now - "slippery slope".

Anyone got a 79 or newer FJ40 or a FJ45 for sale?

-Stumbaugh

greytandy · 03-10-07, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stumbaugh

Anyone got a 79 or newer FJ40 or a FJ45 for sale?

Oh, so anything pre-'79 is not good enough for you, huh?

colangut · 03-10-07, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by greytandy

Oh, so anything pre-'79 is not good enough for you, huh?

Heck, I've owned 18 or 19 FJ40's over 22 years and most of them have been 1970, 71's and 72's...but I like the legroom in 79 and newer with my gimpy knee, I also like the split case in 80 and newer, lastly I like the gastank under the truck. Plus for my non wheeling cruiser ownership, the 3.73's get downt the freeway.

-Stumbaugh

03-02-07, 06:09 AM	#1
greytandy That's "Greyt" "Andy" Join Date: May 2006 Location: MD 'Burbs of DC TLCA# 16669 Posts: 1,177	No Garage - What do YOU do? Hi Guys: I have a garage but it is tiny and hopelessly cluttered beyond belief. I'd like to do some multi-day/multi-week projects on my 40 but no place indoors to do them. How do you you guys without garages handle this? Can you rent space? I'd impose on friends but they don't have garages either, and I doubt they'd want my crap cluttering up their house anyway. - Dave __________________ 1970 FJ40 (AKA "Big Red") 2007 FJ Cruiser (Black Diamond )

03-02-07, 06:31 AM	#2
Blue77FJ40 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MD Posts: 1,174	I wait for a nice day. Schlep tools in and out of the shed if it's a multi-day project. __________________ '77 FJ40: HFS, 33's, Locked and Low'd

03-02-07, 07:16 AM	#3
Herb IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia TLCA# 18324 Posts: 596	Dave, could you make enough space in your garage for those days that you work on the truck? I built shelves in my garage and packed a bunch of the crap up high....then, got my kids' stuff more organized and now I have room for the cruiser. Everytime I drive it, work on it, or get to it...I have to move some stuff, but that isn't really a big deal. __________________ '71 FJ40

03-02-07, 08:42 AM	#8
Herb IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia TLCA# 18324 Posts: 596	The way I see it, this will keep the HOA Nazi's from focusing on your lawn, the worn trim on the house, the Elvis statue on the front lawn and the host of other things that they get all bent about. __________________ '71 FJ40

03-02-07, 02:40 PM	#10
WckedMidas IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: baltimore Posts: 553	lay your ass down on the ground like the rest of us unlucky bastards do who dont have a garage to keep our tools in yet alone our junk. IM jokeing but im serious to. IF it real could out get big ol tarp from wallmart and some bricks or twolitters filled with watter attach to the tarp place over vehicle with the hood proped up run the tarp to the ground in front of the vehicle . and place a heater under it with you. U get big enuf tarp u should be able to cover whole truck front to back go aditional like 10 to 15 feet past the truck on both ends if ya wanted. I use to do that and stick one them kerosene heaters under it. Did two trans swaps on heeps in the snow 12 inchs on ground wearing jeans and tshirt. in front my house on public street. __________________ Broke my jeep bought a cruiser! Stock Fj-62 Siting on 34 10/50 TSL No Rub MOM!


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03-02-07, 04:21 PM	#11
colangut IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Great Falls Virginia TLCA# 3521 Posts: 881	Dave, I got by for many years with out a garage and spent about 10 years helping Josh Fleming work on cruisers over at his place with out a garage. Best advice I can give you is plan your tool box really well so that your not always running to the house for another tool and so that your tool box is not so heavy that you dread hauling it out there. This is also key when you go somewhere to work on your truck. If you bring what you need, you won't waste a trip back to get just one more tool. Also, get a set of Carhart or Dickies insulated coveralls in black to resist stains. Along with some nice insulated mechanics gloves and a padded pit matt from Autozone, you can work in the cold with out too much trouble. Dewalt makes some great 18V flashlights and lanters, as well as 18v cordless impacts that have some punch to them. I used to put all on my tools on a cart and wheel that out to the truck. Hand truck works well too. A small 4x5 tarp and 10x12 tarp, some tent stakes and a few straps makes for good sun blocks and improvised tents. I built my V8 FJ40 out in the driveway under a home made tent one rainy August about 10 years ago. Hooked a few ratchet straps together across two trees and made a simple tent. Now, I have a garage, tons of tools but no time Always seems to work that way... -Stumbaugh

03-03-07, 08:51 AM	#12
Max in DC IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chevy Chase Posts: 29	Build a shed I had the exact same issue - small garage with an FJ-40, plus all my tools, yard tools, lawnmower, etc. etc. piled on top of the truck. It was a disaster. I couldn't even get to the truck to work on it. I finally ended up building a shed right next to the garage to hold all the non-truck stuff. Worked out great. I have to squeeze around the sides of the truck, and it's still cramped, but now I can actually do some work in there. My wife wasn't too happy about losing some backyard to the shed, but now there's less grass to mow! __________________ - Max

03-03-07, 08:58 AM	#13
macneill IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,409	I feel your pain. I have no garage, driveway or yard. I wait for a nice day, find a spot on the street in front of our place and work on it on the street ala "Brooklyn Style." In fact, today I'm going to mount lights on my rear bumper!

03-03-07, 09:06 AM	#14
D'Animal Beagles Rule! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Central California TLCA# 17104 Posts: 11,398	I got tired of doing most everything mentioned above. I saved up money and put up a 40x60. Some say it is technically not a garage. I don't know what the breaking point is between a shop and a garge. But I guess I exceeded it. __________________ Cruiser Dan at American Toyota Phone is 1-800-432-6668 ext. 8 (I am not cruiser Dan) FJ40.5 Build - http://forum.ih8mud.com/hardcore-cor...ly-begins.html http://www.fcfabrication.com/

03-03-07, 11:03 PM	#15
macneill IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,409	For what it's worth, I did install these lights today... on the street. http://forum.ih8mud.com/100-series-cruisers/140994-piaa-510s-rear-tjm-bumper.html

03-04-07, 03:13 PM	#18
reffug grown up MOD Join Date: May 2004 Location: 'in dat der briar patch' TLCA# 14549 Posts: 3,777	no its not a garge. it looks more like paradise. __________________ "If it wasn't a Landcruiser and hadn't been built the way it was you do realize you would be DEAD." VA State Police Officer

03-04-07, 03:39 PM	#19
cruiser88 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: over here TLCA# 17319 Posts: 7,648	funny ive had a garage twice in my renting days.the first time was a 10/20 storage building with no power.i used the shit out of that one.then i had a buddy that had a garage in which i rented from him.never used the dam thing .now im stuck once again working outside with no room to build really __________________ ByPhilC64 Dig the anger on on the bacon sammich chaser. You being angry is like Boy George not trying to be gay. Go play with your 2 inch line, some hand cream and a sock. You'll feel better.

03-07-07, 10:48 AM	#21
F-junker IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hagerstown MD TLCA# 16086 Posts: 1,465	mareno wool long underwear or polypro underwear. worth it's weight in gold. I work outside and wear mereno wool socks every day, even in the summer. it's soft and won't make you itch. the stuff is great. I've got a garage full of motorcycles and tools with no room to work on my truck pita. __________________ Serious case of MVS (multiple vehicle syndrome)

03-07-07, 08:18 PM	#22
Jakes40 IH8MUD Poser Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester,Va Posts: 265	I have a “garage” full of my wife’s junk well ¼ full now I threw some of it out to make room for cruiser parts but I had to put up one of those tarp style carports “city laws no unregistered vehicles in city limits”. But it is an eye sore in the back yard. __________________ 1969 FJ40 - SOA, 75 disc brake, Scout PS, FJ55 rear springs, rear discs, on 35's My Build Up Thread 73 FJ40 w/trans F, back halfed "Thanks Mother Nature" 1986 F150 parts runner Nothing is getting done sitting at the computer. Go! get to work!

03-10-07, 02:26 PM	#23
colangut IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Great Falls Virginia TLCA# 3521 Posts: 881	Dave, This is what you need, I am selling on CL for $450 but will sell for $400. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...291442957.html Awesome way to roll tools out to a project. Folding lid keeps the sun and rain off off tools (hot tools in summer suck). I hate to sell, but have no room to store. Is like new. -Stumbaugh Attached Images