John Bull, Holcolmb Creek, Big Bear, CA-05Dec

clownmidget · 12-05-05, 03:33 PM

A poorly organized, haphazard trail run was thrown together for this past Sunday. Our goal was to run the John Bull trail from east to west, then move west to the start of Holcomb Creek trail and take that to its terminus. Several odd occurences conspired against an early start - one of our party was physically attacked in a 7-11 parking lot for looking at someone the wrong way at 6:30 AM. He decked the guy and went inside and called the police and got some coffee. It IS L.A., so part of a normal day. By the time they arrived at AMMO's place it was just AMMO in his 80 and Rob&Todd in Rob's 1st gen IFS 4Runner on 33" mt's. They cruised over to my place to the drone of their 5.29's (both rigs) and it was just the three trucks that went up the mountain. We didn't actually hit the start of John Bull until high noon.

The start of John Bull is now officially lame. AMMO went first and it didn't even require locking up, and very little steering. The 4Runner was running a 4" suspension lift and no sliders and it had no problems either. I of course wet my pants and took the bypass. There were no other trucks anywhere in site all day. We got to the end of the trail by about 1:45 PM and that was with a few stops, a quick snack, and finding as many places for AMMO to take poser pics of his truck as possible.

There were still quite a few fun spots on John Bull but no one really ever had a problem and no recovery gear ever came out. AMMO and I attempted every stupid line we could as well. He lead up a really nice climb over a couple of nice boulders and kept sliding off eventually getting denied. When I got on it I came down on the ds slider so hard he said it flexed the slider almost into the rocker! That was about it. At the end there was a little "fun" bowl with some water and mud and we did the obligate splashing, mud slinging, etc.

We all seemed to be directionally challenged that day even with about 18 maps and two gps units so it took us a while to actually get to the Holcolmb Crk trailhead. By now it was about 2:30 PM and since everyone had obligations back home we decided to go in a short way and then turn around rather than risk running the whole trail and being really late. We screwed around in the creek and up the opposite climb for quite a while and I managed to get high-centered on my ps slider cat converter skid plate and part of the xfer case skid. Lots of forward and backward and I managed to kiss the only tree in 100 ft and break one of my front manual hubs.

We got into Fawnskin just about 5 pm, aired up and got the nice sunset view as we made it down the mtn back to the devil's playground.

I saved the gps track if anyone wants it and I had no camera with me so I have no pics at all. AMMO had something that was electrical with a little lens and pointed it at all sorts of stuff but I don't know....

clownmidget · 12-05-05, 03:43 PM

Some pics in this thread (http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/70018-aisin-hub-carnager-cheaper-than-birfield.html)

canyoneer · 12-05-05, 04:29 PM

Well written, midget, and a pleasure to read. Sorry about the dial.

Taz · 12-05-05, 10:14 PM

sorry I couldn't make it...sounds like a good time. Let me know next time you guys go out and I will be there!

PKP80 · 12-06-05, 02:03 AM

Mike you end up mounting and running the Toyos? Ever since I saw them I've been looking for a set, no where to be found. Interested to hear about them on and off the road once they get the exposure.

FirstToy · 12-06-05, 02:10 AM

Nice report Mike, fun read

I dont get it, how could you soil your union suit on the start of JB but then have the courage to grenade a birf later in the day? That AMMO is a bad influence....

clownmidget · 12-06-05, 02:37 AM

I ran the Krawlers until someone ponies up and buys them.

JK about the JB entrance - it really is tame relatively speaking. But yeah, AMMO encourages a certain dramatic element

AMMO · 12-06-05, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clownmidget

I ran the Krawlers until someone ponies up and buys them.

JK about the JB entrance - it really is tame relatively speaking. But yeah, AMMO encourages a certain dramatic element

You guys better stop, you’re giving me a persona... One of witch includes taking allot of 'poser" shots! But then again, when you’re the guy with the camera, it's kinda hard to get pictures as your driving.

Working on pulling "stills" from the video, trying to find the exact point where the "BIG Bang" happened Mike.

-Matt

clownmidget · 12-06-05, 12:38 PM

All in fun

Let the Longfields flow..............................!

clownmidget · 12-12-05, 05:11 PM

I like to call this game "guess where the birfield exploded and ate the aisin hub?"

Note the scale. I was floundering around on everything sticking out of the ground.

Skim · 12-13-05, 01:41 AM

I know the answer..................

Skim · 12-13-05, 01:42 AM

AMMO- when can I see the video ?

12-05-05, 03:33 PM	#1
clownmidget IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ithaca, New York Posts: 1,813	John Bull, Holcolmb Creek, Big Bear, CA-05Dec A poorly organized, haphazard trail run was thrown together for this past Sunday. Our goal was to run the John Bull trail from east to west, then move west to the start of Holcomb Creek trail and take that to its terminus. Several odd occurences conspired against an early start - one of our party was physically attacked in a 7-11 parking lot for looking at someone the wrong way at 6:30 AM. He decked the guy and went inside and called the police and got some coffee. It IS L.A., so part of a normal day. By the time they arrived at AMMO's place it was just AMMO in his 80 and Rob&Todd in Rob's 1st gen IFS 4Runner on 33" mt's. They cruised over to my place to the drone of their 5.29's (both rigs) and it was just the three trucks that went up the mountain. We didn't actually hit the start of John Bull until high noon. The start of John Bull is now officially lame. AMMO went first and it didn't even require locking up, and very little steering. The 4Runner was running a 4" suspension lift and no sliders and it had no problems either. I of course wet my pants and took the bypass. There were no other trucks anywhere in site all day. We got to the end of the trail by about 1:45 PM and that was with a few stops, a quick snack, and finding as many places for AMMO to take poser pics of his truck as possible. There were still quite a few fun spots on John Bull but no one really ever had a problem and no recovery gear ever came out. AMMO and I attempted every stupid line we could as well. He lead up a really nice climb over a couple of nice boulders and kept sliding off eventually getting denied. When I got on it I came down on the ds slider so hard he said it flexed the slider almost into the rocker! That was about it. At the end there was a little "fun" bowl with some water and mud and we did the obligate splashing, mud slinging, etc. We all seemed to be directionally challenged that day even with about 18 maps and two gps units so it took us a while to actually get to the Holcolmb Crk trailhead. By now it was about 2:30 PM and since everyone had obligations back home we decided to go in a short way and then turn around rather than risk running the whole trail and being really late. We screwed around in the creek and up the opposite climb for quite a while and I managed to get high-centered on my ps slider cat converter skid plate and part of the xfer case skid. Lots of forward and backward and I managed to kiss the only tree in 100 ft and break one of my front manual hubs. We got into Fawnskin just about 5 pm, aired up and got the nice sunset view as we made it down the mtn back to the devil's playground. I saved the gps track if anyone wants it and I had no camera with me so I have no pics at all. AMMO had something that was electrical with a little lens and pointed it at all sorts of stuff but I don't know.... __________________ Mike R. hmmm....nuthin' Answer a fool according to his own folly.

12-05-05, 03:43 PM	#2
clownmidget IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ithaca, New York Posts: 1,813	Some pics in this thread (http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/70018-aisin-hub-carnager-cheaper-than-birfield.html) __________________ Mike R. hmmm....nuthin' Answer a fool according to his own folly.

12-05-05, 10:14 PM	#4
Taz Horse Wisperer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Juan Capistrano Posts: 323	sorry I couldn't make it...sounds like a good time. Let me know next time you guys go out and I will be there! __________________ Mark 97 FJ 80 locked supercharged, 4" slee lift, 37/12.5/17MTR, ARB front bumper, 4x4+ rear bumper, custom 26 gallon aux fuel cell, Slee step sliders, etc. 2005 d-max 3500 stock 2006 WR450F Desert Ready

12-06-05, 02:03 AM	#5
PKP80 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA TLCA# 14900 Posts: 1,759	Mike you end up mounting and running the Toyos? Ever since I saw them I've been looking for a set, no where to be found. Interested to hear about them on and off the road once they get the exposure. __________________ Sam Shaya 96' FZJ80 convertable 4x4 Labs Rear end/Custom shock mounts KING shocks/ other goodies, but you get the idea. Call Sign KI6KNB "Team Pull-OUT" Phi Kappa Psi

12-06-05, 02:10 AM	#6
FirstToy tlcwagons.org Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,497	Nice report Mike, fun read I dont get it, how could you soil your union suit on the start of JB but then have the courage to grenade a birf later in the day? That AMMO is a bad influence.... __________________ I love cachapas! my wip I drink your milkshake! Enzo: "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races"

12-05-05, 04:29 PM	#3
canyoneer IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 81	Well written, midget, and a pleasure to read. Sorry about the dial.

12-06-05, 02:37 AM	#7
clownmidget IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ithaca, New York Posts: 1,813	I ran the Krawlers until someone ponies up and buys them. JK about the JB entrance - it really is tame relatively speaking. But yeah, AMMO encourages a certain dramatic element __________________ Mike R. hmmm....nuthin' Answer a fool according to his own folly.

12-06-05, 12:38 PM	#9
clownmidget IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ithaca, New York Posts: 1,813	All in fun Let the Longfields flow..............................! __________________ Mike R. hmmm....nuthin' Answer a fool according to his own folly.

12-12-05, 05:11 PM	#10
clownmidget IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ithaca, New York Posts: 1,813	in lieu of actual pics... I like to call this game "guess where the birfield exploded and ate the aisin hub?" Note the scale. I was floundering around on everything sticking out of the ground. __________________ Mike R. hmmm....nuthin' Answer a fool according to his own folly. Last edited by clownmidget; 04-02-07 at 12:41 PM.

12-13-05, 01:41 AM	#11
Skim IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Walnut Creek, CA Posts: 705	I know the answer.................. __________________ 85 Long Bed Hilux

12-13-05, 01:42 AM	#12
Skim IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Walnut Creek, CA Posts: 705	AMMO- when can I see the video ? __________________ 85 Long Bed Hilux

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