Clear Creek in Central California is Officially Closed!

[alvarorb]

What would happen if someone's kid got sick and died because of the asbestos. Then who would be to blame. I'd bet some parents would be quick to sue the BLM (Fed. Gov) for not doing enough to prevent this. That's why the EPA is getting involved.

It's sad to see areas closed. But I have conflictive thoughts on this one.

Here in the Sacramento area we have an asbestos problem around El Dorado Hills. There's been school closings when the levels of asbestos go up in the air. And all the streets around there are paved. Asbestos is no joke.

Regards

Alvaro

[yzftaco]

That's why the sensible people go in the Winter when it's not dusty... For motorcycles the riding season is in Winter anyway.. Who wants to ride a bike in Dusty 100 degree weather?

I have friends who have been going there for 30+ years, and their Dad's, who knows how long they've been going on top of that... Their Dad's aren't sick! Either are they..

[Skillet]

So, let me get this straight...

I can walk into a gas station, buy a pack of cigarettes, which have been proven time and time again to kill you, puff away until my heart is content, get cancer and kick the bucket. But hey, cigs are still right there for the kids to buy.

However, if I want to drive to one of the last great OHV areas in the west and take a very questionable risk of exposure to some possibly harmful dust, then every federal agency in the free friggin' world gets involved to take my goddamn rights away?

Something smells bunk in Cairo and I think it is a rotten piece of shit called the sierra club with and agenda much different than human health.

[alvarorb]

Originally Posted by Skillet

So, let me get this straight...

I can walk into a gas station, buy a pack of cigarettes, which have been proven time and time again to kill you, puff away until my heart is content, get cancer and kick the bucket. But hey, cigs are still right there for the kids to buy.

However, if I want to drive to one of the last great OHV areas in the west and take a very questionable risk of exposure to some possibly harmful dust, then every federal agency in the free friggin' world gets involved to take my goddamn rights away?

Something smells bunk in Cairo and I think it is a rotten piece of shit called the sierra club with and agenda much different than human health.

Or Phillip Morris does not own Clear Creek. If they did they would be promoting asbestos inhalation as something good for your health....

Alvaro

[D'Animal]

If you throw your Cigarett butt on the ground, Jeb will kick you arse.

Originally Posted by Skillet

So, let me get this straight...

I can walk into a gas station, buy a pack of cigarettes, which have been proven time and time again to kill you, puff away until my heart is content, get cancer and kick the bucket. But hey, cigs are still right there for the kids to buy.

However, if I want to drive to one of the last great OHV areas in the west and take a very questionable risk of exposure to some possibly harmful dust, then every federal agency in the free friggin' world gets involved to take my goddamn rights away?

Something smells bunk in Cairo and I think it is a rotten piece of **** called the sierra club with and agenda much different than human health.

I see both side of the argument on this area. I do not totally disagree with either side.

[Skillet]

Originally Posted by alvarorb

Or Phillip Morris does not own Clear Creek. If they did they would be promoting asbestos inhalation as something good for your health....

Alvaro

Touche', Alvaro.


Perhaps we should have taken that NorCal trip last winter when we still had the chance.

C'est la vie..?

[Fast Eddy]

Originally Posted by Skillet

Perhaps we should have taken that NorCal trip last winter when we still had the chance.

Then again, at least I don't know exactly what I'm missing.

[alvarorb]

Sam,

I'm sorry, I think you got the Communism meaning confused. But that's another topic. I hate to see trails closed as you do. However, I'm able to see the BLM point of view. We live in a sue happy society (BTW, that never happened in the USSR). The BLM is trying to protect itself from people who get sick and want to go after them. Is it the right thing to do? I don't know.

And NO all dust does not contain asbestos.

Alvaro

[Fast Eddy]

Originally Posted by alvarorb

I'm able to see the BLM point of view. We live in a sue happy society. The BLM is trying to protect itself from people who get sick and want to go after them. Is it the right thing to do? I don't know.

They need to put a fence around it with a big sign at the gate that says, "Now leaving the USA. Welcome to no-man's-land. Enter at your own risk."