LIVE from the 2007 Trail Team Kokopelli Expedition!

[9ersgirl]

Originally Posted by crazyhermit

Nettie and I have decided that we must have an event here in the nether regions of western New Mexico in the spring of 2008. First come first served. Make your reservations early. There are three (3) places to stay,all on the ranch. We are limiting the fun to 10 (ten) vehicles. Just bring your food and beverages. Nettie and I will feed everybody Saturday night. It's a three day event...For those arriving early on Friday there will be a night run. Any Questions?

Sounds like fun!!! Let us know when, so We can plan appropriately. I would love to see you both again and I know that Chris would love to do a trip to NM!!! Here's to Spring '08

Amanda

Ps. This time Chris and I will bring the FJ

[LandCruisers4Life]

Opinion..... This trail run should be made into a TLCA annual event. Anyone else?

[woody]

I'd make it an annual event, for sure....

hard part is the group size....the 15-18 we had on the trail was cumbersome...10 would have made things run easier....but at the same time, the group is a large part of what made it so much fun...

either way, a TLCA event with 15 rigs is too small for hosting....the hosting club would fill it with members alone! lol

[LandCruisers4Life]

Well if you all shared all your topo info, GPS coordinates etc with everyone, there could be several runs a year held by various TLCA clubs

[cajun65]

Sounds like this was an excellent trip. As a flatlander (newb) that's never been out there, can you all tell me what makes it so cumbersome for 10-15 rigs?

[pressurepoint]

Stop and Go traveling. Lots of trucks means extra time at every obstical. On this trip in particular the dust from 18 trucks was so thick we spent a good amount of time driving 8 mph.
Another example is with each truck needing 3 minutes to get through a harder spot, thats 30-45 minutes.

Hope that helps.

-Tim

[cajun65]

Originally Posted by pressurepoint

Stop and Go traveling. Lots of trucks means extra time at every obstical. On this trip in particular the dust from 18 trucks was so thick we spent a good amount of time driving 8 mph.
Another example is with each truck needing 3 minutes to get through a harder spot, thats 30-45 minutes.

Hope that helps.

-Tim

It does, thanks. The pics are awesome, but I figured there had to be more to the story and i couldn't quite imagine it.

[uphill]

This isn't an anti-trailer rant, but it makes it much easier if all vehicles in the group have the same general capability and the drivers have he same general disposition.

Kokopelli was one example. On the Mojave Road a month before the Kokopelli Trail expedition we had 8 FJ's and were stopped by a mixed group of 4x4's ahead of us.

So we waited at least 20 minutes, took off and were on their tail in about 5 minutes because that group was so S-L-O-W. They were polite, let us pass and we continued on. If any of them had been with our group it would have been difficult to manage.

[9ersgirl]

It truly doesn't matter where in the world you are wheeling or not wheeling. When you have a large group of vehicles the length of time needed to go from point A to B is always longer than expected.

[LandCruisers4Life]

Definitely need to pawn that jeep off on someone....

[woody]

if you'd had time to actually look at that Jeep, you'd have been impressed....AirRock suspension, supercharged, etc.....well done rig

[9ersgirl]

Originally Posted by woody

if you'd had time to actually look at that Jeep, you'd have been impressed....AirRock suspension, supercharged, etc.....well done rig

Thanks Woody! It definately does everything we challenge it to.

[Hank]

It appears you are speaking of two different Jeeps.

[woooody]

You could do this like we do Rubithon -- Just have several small groups, and spread them out over a couple of days. Was there a spot where you could have a group gathering?

Being a TLCA event, it would provide you insurance, and a way to advertise it. Not really required, but it might help, if you had a club that wanted to organize it.

[LandCruisers4Life]

Originally Posted by 9ersgirl

Thanks Woody! It definately does everything we challenge it to.

It's still a jeep

[woody]

Originally Posted by woooody

You could do this like we do Rubithon -- Just have several small groups, and spread them out over a couple of days. Was there a spot where you could have a group gathering?

Being a TLCA event, it would provide you insurance, and a way to advertise it. Not really required, but it might help, if you had a club that wanted to organize it.

the camping areas we were at were tight even with our group size....any more would have been impossible.

IMO, any "event" size run thru here would only create a mess, and likely create issues with the BLM too...because this was organized by the Trail Teams and supported by Toyota as well, we had extra permits and hoops to jump thru, and costs involved as well. Gustaf spent a LOT of time on the phone with the BLM for permits.

By the same token, our Marketing group is excited to see more of these runs in 2008, so watch your calendars!!

[uphill]

Originally Posted by woody

By the same token, our Marketing group is excited to see more of these runs in 2008, so watch your calendars!!

If there is a preferred list, PLEASE put me on it. Being self-employed, I can bend the boss' arm for time off to play.

[woody]

BTW: since folks have asked on our maps, here ya go...

http://www.latitude40maps.com

map1: Fruita/Grand Junction Colorado Trails 2nd Edition
map2: Moab East Utah Trails 1st Edition
map3: Moab West 6th Edition

[stharris]

Originally Posted by woody

By the same token, our Marketing group is excited to see more of these runs in 2008, so watch your calendars!!

I missed this one because of a trip out of the country. I do not want to miss the next one. As Uphill said, "If there is a preferred list, PLEASE put me on it" and send a notification :^)

[Niner]

Originally Posted by LandCruisers4Life

It's still a jeep

Go back to complaining about your gears.

[Panzer]

Woody, et. al
What about having an expedition event in the Alpine loop area?
Lots of trails, camping areas big enough to host a large number of vehicles and numerous trials to spread out the rigs. Not really true point to point expeditioning (although it could be with the right planning).

[woody]

anything is possible....pm me with some details on that area!

I've got a GPS puck enroute for my new laptop and will be pulling in software yet this week....have a few months to learn it prior to next year!

[Altan]

Originally Posted by woody

anything is possible....pm me with some details on that area!

I've got a GPS puck enroute for my new laptop and will be pulling in software yet this week....have a few months to learn it prior to next year!

I live in the area. The alpine loop would be great. Perfect Land Cruiser trails. With river crossings old mining claims, ghost towns,breathtaking views. the trails are rated 4 to 5. I know the area well and usually have my hunting camp there. I can provide any info you need. And get great rates on services like hotels and passes to the hot springs. I would be willing to be a local point man.

ps. It was nice to meet you in grand Junction before you headed out. I wish I could have gone with you, work really sucked that week

Charles

[Hank]

That sounds like a great area.

[treerootCO]

Pics are up: Kokopelli2007

took me awhile to get the gallery back online. High rez available under the drop down.

[9ersgirl]

Originally Posted by treerootCO

Pics are up: Kokopelli2007

took me awhile to get the gallery back online. High rez available under the drop down.

Thanks Mike! The Gallery looks great!

Amanda