Home Forum Gallery Wiki CruiserFAQ Tech Links Product Reviews Trivia Store

IH8MUD Forums
Support our Advertising Vendors!!
Go Back   IH8MUD Forums > General Tech Forums > Trailer Tech

Reply
 
LinkBack (1) Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-02-06, 09:57 AM   #1
IH8MUD Junior
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ab.ca
TLCA# 13126
Posts: 81
Military trailer lid.

My friend/coworker is a hod rod guy. Having seen some of the stuff he has done with his cars and trucks, I asked him to make me a lid for my military trailer. I gave him a quick run down of what I was looking for and left my trailer with him. This is what I got. I am a happy camper.

All nuts are captured (welded in place), it opens nice all the way up and the gas struts assist alot (maybe a bit too much). It locks, and once locked none of the bolts are accessable. He figures the top cage to be good for 400 lbs.
Attached Images
   


__________________
Paul H
dingdong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-06, 10:01 AM   #2
IH8MUD Junior
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ab.ca
TLCA# 13126
Posts: 81
I use the trailer for work, and it is more convienient to have it open on the drivers side. Otherwise I would have it open on the passenger side. Jerry can holders and a spare tire rack are next and then I'm good to go.

Bruce L once mentioned to me that there are hubs available for the stock axles which have a 6x5.5 bolt pattern. Anyone know of a source/part number?


__________________
Paul H
dingdong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-06, 10:56 AM   #3
bj74_guy?
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
TLCA# 6257
Posts: 609
Nice!

I think Princess auto may have the stub shafts. I have to go out there in the next day or so, I'll check. I want to do the same to mine.


__________________
norm
'85 BJ70 - old yard decoration
'89 BJ74 - newer yard decoration

Last edited by bj70_guy; 01-02-06 at 11:44 AM.
bj70_guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-06, 11:43 AM   #4
IH8MUD Lifer
 
concretejungle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Cadillac
TLCA# 14646
Posts: 6,167
I'm surprised how many pull gear in trailers out on the trail. Seems like if you tried to do any descent hard trails the trailer would be a major PITA! I figure if you can cram it in or on the rig, it's too much.

I can see you pulling it to base camp and leaving it as you wheeled, but not pulling them with you all the time.


__________________
95' FZJ80 OME med./J lift, ARB rack, ARB Bull Bar w/tmax 12,500, 315 Nitto, stainless brake lines, Center Diff Lock, Sliders, IPOR Skid, IPOR rear bumper, upgraded slee sticker, custom dents, more to come. . .


Remember it's a gateway drug, so it will actually lead to "crystal meh".
concretejungle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-06, 12:59 PM   #5
IH8MUD Lifer
 
landcrusher909's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Southern Calif.
TLCA# 14995
Posts: 1,561
very cool i have 67 1/4 jeep trailer and yours looks great i just put a locker in my 40 and i am looking forward to seeing how it pulls the trailer off road now
landcrusher909 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-06, 01:20 PM   #6
IH8MUD Lifer
 
cruiseroutfit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Utah
TLCA# 10662
Posts: 2,582
Very cool, are you going to add a weatherstrip (or similar idea) to make the top waterproof?

I have a lid on mine, it is great for keeping things dry in the rain, however it isn't 100% watertight (yet) and it can be a PITA. I have to take most of the stuff out after camping and make sure things are dry so I don't get mold/mildew when I store it for a couple weeks...


__________________
Kurt Williams
***Cruiser Outfitters*** - YOUR LC PARTS SOURCE!!!
Old Man Emu - ARB - Advance Adapters - Safari Snorkels
U4WDA - Historian
TLCA
Wasatch Cruisers
Mountain Yoats
Red Rock 4 Wheelers
Tacoma Territory
kurt@cruiseroutfitters.com
cruiseroutfit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-06, 02:27 PM   #7
IH8MUD Addict
 
Lars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 657
Cool. Are you a member of http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/M101CDN/

I'm sure they would appreciate seeing the picstures over there.
Lars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-06, 03:29 PM   #8
IH8MUD Lifer
 
spressomon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Reno
Posts: 5,082
Quote:
Originally Posted by concretejungle
I'm surprised how many pull gear in trailers out on the trail. Seems like if you tried to do any descent hard trails the trailer would be a major PITA! I figure if you can cram it in or on the rig, it's too much.

I can see you pulling it to base camp and leaving it as you wheeled, but not pulling them with you all the time.


They pull them along on the Rubicon...you must be doing some REALLY aggressive trails not to be able to pull a 4x4 trailer behind


__________________
Modded '99 for overlanding/exploring: 35's, 4.88's, AO drawers, Slee rr, TJM fr, ARB fr locker, ear candy, Waeco CF-50, PowerGate with 2nd battery, home brew sliders & t-case skid plate, 9.5XP/X-line, LF 170's, OEM 864's, Foxes x 4, 12mm BL, Carl's UCAs, ... KE7NCM
spressomon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-06, 04:07 PM   #9
IH8MUD Junior
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ab.ca
TLCA# 13126
Posts: 81
Norm, if you find the stub shafts let me know.
Yeah Kurt, weatherstriping for sure. I found some stuff that goes around the rear hatch of Toyota minivans. It looks like it will fit around the lid perfectly and the stuff is already molded in the right shape so I don't have to mickeymouse the corners. As well the lip of the lid extends down quite far.
Lars, I didn't even know there was a list for the canadian military trailers. I will check it out. Feel free to cross post. Now would be the time to add or change something before it goes to paint.
Jungle, the primary use for this trailer is to get my stuff to work (oilfield). The dirt roads can be quite rough, but nothing that would be considered an aggressive trail. Sometimes the pavement is worse.
Thanks for the comments. Here's a pic of the tow rig. Cheers.
Attached Images
 


__________________
Paul H
dingdong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-06, 10:36 PM   #10
IH8MUD Addict
 
re_guderian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Arizona
Posts: 559
Quote:
Originally Posted by concretejungle
I'm surprised how many pull gear in trailers out on the trail. Seems like if you tried to do any descent hard trails the trailer would be a major PITA! I figure if you can cram it in or on the rig, it's too much.

I can see you pulling it to base camp and leaving it as you wheeled, but not pulling them with you all the time.
My M416 would go anywhere the FJ60 would. They just tag along like they're not even there. You'd be amazed.


__________________
Rob G
1995 FZJ80
AZ
Copper State Cruisers #046
re_guderian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-06, 11:26 PM   #11
I'm really very humble
 
photogod's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: MN physically, MI spiritually
Posts: 1,339
You have a really nice combo of vehicle and trailer. I like the top a lot. I have an M100 that I am trying to fit out as a trail trailer. My M100 has a tailgate installed so I am going to make a slide out kitchen for the rear. Will yours hold gear on top when you open it up. It kinda looks like it might want to drop it because of the steep angle when open. Nice job overall for sure!
photogod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-06, 11:37 PM   #12
Mod in Hibernation
 
brownbear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Where diesels purr and turbos whine
TLCA# 15584
Posts: 6,179
Hey Dingdong,

Your truck is nice, hows it working out?

I had the pleasure to drive that truck when the previous owner had it. It was a sweet ride. Congrates. The trailer will look great behind it.


__________________
-84 BJ60, Finally on the FN road!
-91 FJ80, wife's ride

Iron Butt award winner of the Cruise Moab 08 !
brownbear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-03-06, 02:36 PM   #13
IH8MUD Lifer
 
wesintl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Denver
TLCA# 4180
Posts: 3,573
Sweet! Nice Rig too... I think i've seen that before


__________________
1964 FJ40 | 1966 M416 | 1976 FJ40 | 1985 BJ70 Volvo Power| 1997 FZJ80 | TDI commuter car
Rising Sun
; Former CLCC
You should be able to delete your own thread. Communists abound

Real Change is here --> Cato Institute
wesintl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-06, 09:09 AM   #14
<><
 
89s rule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Due West, SC
TLCA# 14198
Posts: 2,933
wow othis looks nice! What color are you going to paint the top? Red to match or white or grey?


__________________
'93 FZJ 32K miles - 850/863's, 285 MTR's & Lightforce 240's waiting.
'89 FJ62 - 4" Alcan, 33" BFG MT's, 4.88's, Lockright (rear), 4runner calipers, & 3' firestick. Cruise in the garage. FOR SALE!
'97 4Runner SR5 - 4x4, leather, '06 4runner rims, 265/70/17 Toyo AT, TJM T-15, 3 baby seats. (Wife's DD)
'83 FJ60 - DooDoo Brown in and out FOR SALE!
'63 Biscayne Wagon - Kandy Green and Tweed. Family Wagon 3rd row in the garage.
Erskine College Upstate Cruisers
89s rule is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-06, 02:02 PM   #15
IH8MUD Addict
 
Owyhee Jackass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 715
Paul,

Did you have that canopy made for your 70, or is a product you purchased? I want to build something exactly like that for my 45.

Dan

Edit, nevermind. I did some searching and found Crusher's info on it.


__________________
Endeavor to Persevere

Last edited by Owyhee Jackass; 05-31-06 at 02:37 PM.
Owyhee Jackass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-06, 12:43 AM   #16
IH8MUD Junior
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ab.ca
TLCA# 13126
Posts: 81
update

Wes,
I am quite sure you have seen the tow rig before. In it's virgin skin no less.

Jackass,
the tarp was made to Wayne's specifications by Chinook Upolstery in Calgary. I can't remember who made the roll bar. There is not much to either of them so any local shop should be able to make it for you. The box on the truck is actually a FJ-45 box. I will be selling all of it if Micheal can hook me up with a 75 series box.

89srule,
I was going to paint everything freeborn red with a black/silver powdercoat on all the bars hooks etc. We took the trailer in and sandblasted it. The colour that the clean metal came out in, a kind of gunmetal blue/grey looked so good I told the painter to match it. Should be done in a couple of weeks (or at least, that is when I will get to see it).

Photogod,
we got a couple guys to sit on the top and it didn't move. It is really solid. The struts are strong enough to open the top with 150 lbs on top and a dedicated push by me. Once open it stays open. The most it will see is a couple of mountain bikes and a duffle bag or two that I forget to put inside. But you never know.

I decided to get some extra protection built around the trailer. Mostly for fun, but it should be functional to.

Here are a few more pics. Can't wait to use it.
Attached Images
   


__________________
Paul H
dingdong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-06, 12:44 AM   #17
IH8MUD Junior
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ab.ca
TLCA# 13126
Posts: 81
a couple more.
Attached Images
  


__________________
Paul H
dingdong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-06, 12:51 AM   #18
IH8MUD Junior
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ab.ca
TLCA# 13126
Posts: 81
I still have to figured out what I can do about changing the 5 lug pattern to a 6 lug to match the landcruisers. And I haven't quite decided on what to do to get a little lift. It needs to sit about 2 inches higher. But there is no big rush with that stuff.

Nice to see a dedicated trailer forum. Seems it is quite the hot topic this time of year.


__________________
Paul H
dingdong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-06, 08:13 AM   #19
IH8MUD Addict
 
Owyhee Jackass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 715
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingdong
I still have to figured out what I can do about changing the 5 lug pattern to a 6 lug to match the landcruisers. And I haven't quite decided on what to do to get a little lift. It needs to sit about 2 inches higher. But there is no big rush with that stuff.

Nice to see a dedicated trailer forum. Seems it is quite the hot topic this time of year.

I just went to my local trailer supply house (Henderson Wheel) and asked for an axle the width I wanted, with cruiser bolt pattern and springs rated to what I needed and sprung over. (the spring over gave me a couple inches of lift) I could have got brakes too, but decided not to. They even sell new spring mounting hardware and brackets. I think everything was about $150.00 too very reasonable.


__________________
Endeavor to Persevere
Owyhee Jackass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-06, 08:15 AM   #20
IH8MUD Addict
 
Owyhee Jackass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 715
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingdong
Jackass,
the tarp was made to Wayne's specifications by Chinook Upolstery in Calgary. I can't remember who made the roll bar. There is not much to either of them so any local shop should be able to make it for you. The box on the truck is actually a FJ-45 box. I will be selling all of it if Micheal can hook me up with a 75 series box.

I can make the bars, no problem. It's finding someone to do the top for a reasonable price that will be tough. Let me know if and when you want to sell the top and bars, I have a 45, should be a bolt-on.

Thanks,

Dan


__________________
Endeavor to Persevere
Owyhee Jackass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-06, 09:12 AM   #21
IH8MUD Thread Killer
 
Koffer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Hopewell NJ
Posts: 982
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingdong
I still have to figured out what I can do about changing the 5 lug pattern to a 6 lug to match the landcruisers. And I haven't quite decided on what to do to get a little lift. It needs to sit about 2 inches higher. But there is no big rush with that stuff.

Nice to see a dedicated trailer forum. Seems it is quite the hot topic this time of year.

You can just change the hubs and swap the axle over
heres mine
Easy and cheap
Attached Images
   


__________________
Todd
64' FJ40, 79' FJ40,(gone) 86' BJ70, 92' FJ80,(gone) 96' FZJ80
just 3 cruisers now 66'M416 and a 92' M101CND
Koffer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-06, 12:51 PM   #22
IH8MUD Lifer
 
cruiseroutfit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Utah
TLCA# 10662
Posts: 2,582
Quote:
Originally Posted by Owyhee Jackass
I just went to my local trailer supply house (Henderson Wheel) and asked for an axle the width I wanted, with cruiser bolt pattern and springs rated to what I needed and sprung over. (the spring over gave me a couple inches of lift) I could have got brakes too, but decided not to. They even sell new spring mounting hardware and brackets. I think everything was about $150.00 too very reasonable.
Ditto... I did the exact same thing from the same place. I would do it again in a heartbeat too, the price was right and the quality is excellent.


__________________
Kurt Williams
***Cruiser Outfitters*** - YOUR LC PARTS SOURCE!!!
Old Man Emu - ARB - Advance Adapters - Safari Snorkels
U4WDA - Historian
TLCA
Wasatch Cruisers
Mountain Yoats
Red Rock 4 Wheelers
Tacoma Territory
kurt@cruiseroutfitters.com
cruiseroutfit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-06, 05:32 PM   #23
IH8MUD Lifer
 
Greg_B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
TLCA# 7091
Posts: 3,061
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingdong
I still have to figured out what I can do about changing the 5 lug pattern to a 6 lug to match the landcruisers. And I haven't quite decided on what to do to get a little lift. It needs to sit about 2 inches higher. But there is no big rush with that stuff.

Nice to see a dedicated trailer forum. Seems it is quite the hot topic this time of year.
Hi Paul

In your neck of the woods Standen has the parts you need. Check out this post: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/M101CDN/message/144

hth's

gb
Greg_B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-06, 01:43 AM   #24
IH8MUD Addict
 
dieselbigot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: El Dorado Hills, CA
Posts: 699
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingdong
Bruce L once mentioned to me that there are hubs available for the stock axles which have a 6x5.5 bolt pattern. Anyone know of a source/part number?
http://www.etrailerpart.com/mywebs/m...3e_1322934.htm

I bought my hubs from these guys...super cheap. I paid less than $100 for both drum assemblies with bearings, races, lugs, caps etc....


__________________
------------------

88 FJ62 4spd/Toybox/SOA hardcore
99 UZJ100 softcore
03 VW TDI dd
92 M101 cdn
dieselbigot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-06, 08:09 PM   #25
northerner
 
semlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: north of 49
Posts: 4,052
so is there any magic to a spring over? do you just reattach the ubolts at the same spot?? As an 80 ownwer I know less than nothing on the subject


__________________
93 fzj80
66 fj40L
m101cdn trailer
91 LS400 sedancruiser

"Diplomacy is the art of having someone else impose your will on you" Lester Pearson

"I have the conch" Piggy
semlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-06, 09:14 PM   #26
IH8MUD Thread Killer
 
Koffer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Hopewell NJ
Posts: 982
Quote:
Originally Posted by semlin
so is there any magic to a spring over? do you just reattach the ubolts at the same spot?? As an 80 ownwer I know less than nothing on the subject

Just unbolt the axle flip it over and bolt all back up .
If you look at the post a few up in my other post you'll see what i did .


__________________
Todd
64' FJ40, 79' FJ40,(gone) 86' BJ70, 92' FJ80,(gone) 96' FZJ80
just 3 cruisers now 66'M416 and a 92' M101CND
Koffer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-06, 03:05 PM