M-416 Build

boctor12 · 01-08-08, 11:37 AM

Here is a M-416 build my cousin and i started a few months ago. It is still in progress. I purchased the trailer for $300. I got most of the ideas from this site. Here are some pics of what i have done.

boctor12 · 01-08-08, 11:50 AM

Bought some 33's on rock crawler wheels, added rancho shocks, put new led lights, painted frame, NOS springs with all new shackles.

calsum2 · 01-08-08, 01:13 PM

Yikes is that a jeep in the back ground.....get your priorities straight go TEQ.

boctor12 · 01-08-08, 02:27 PM

Yes, it is a jeep

. Focus on the trailer. Here are some pics of cutting the tub. There was some damage to the front of the tub. So we decided to cut about 16 inches from the front, rotate it 180 degree's, and fab a tailgate and storage box for the front.

boctor12 · 01-08-08, 02:36 PM

I bought a roof top tent so we decided to mount it on a 1 3/4" square tube rack. I also put some tubing to hold a shovel and axe. The tubing follows the contour of the inside of the trailer. We did this because we needed to support the flimsy tub and have a place to mount tailgate latches.

REZARF · 01-08-08, 05:54 PM

Man that looks great! And GOOD on ya' for gettin' your boy involved. Love that pic of him with the hood on!

I really like the idea you have of adding a box up front, and your method of how you are going about it is really, really cool!

Sweet rack too! Keep it up and keep the pics coming!

Drew

boctor12 · 01-08-08, 06:17 PM

Thanks. That is my cousins kid and he is actually showing my cousin how to weld. We changed the rack after the last picture because it was way to high with the tent on. So we decided to lower it. I will add more pics this weekend. It is painted and the tailgate and front box is complete.

Patrick

Wolf · 01-09-08, 05:25 AM

great job, but aren't you afraid of the topweight??
I saw pictures of a 'normal' M416 that turned over in the desert just because one wheel felt in a hole.

boctor12 · 01-09-08, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf

great job, but aren't you afraid of the topweight??
I saw pictures of a 'normal' M416 that turned over in the desert just because one wheel felt in a hole.

We ended up lower the rack after these pictures. The top now sits where the middle cross-bar is in the picture above. I did not want the hassle of having a closed lid so I would have to lift the tent every time I wanted something out of the trailer. Also, my daughter's quad fits nicely under the rack.

Wolf · 01-09-08, 12:57 PM

boctor12 · 01-21-08, 03:16 PM

Here are some pics of the trailer. The fenders are still in progress. I put a AGM battery that adventure trailers recommended. Also, I wired a battery charger with an external plug and 4 -12 volt plugs for accessorries, it is that grey box in the front. Mounted two jerry cans. I am still going to wire some flood lights all around the trailer,line-x the inside black and the outside to match the green jeep. I am also trying to figure out a way to mount two propane burners and a bar-b-q.

arcteryx · 01-21-08, 06:07 PM

Looks good!

Are those feet to support the trailer on the rear on the last pic? I don't see them on the trailer pics when it's hooked up to your receiver. How are those mounted and do they help? Do you have front ones too?

boctor12 · 01-21-08, 06:39 PM

They are removable stabalizers that are just placed under the rear bumper. They have a rachet strap that connects to the landing legs and pulls them together. I got them for the rear only and the they work good. The trailer does not move much when inside the tent.

philos1 · 01-23-08, 11:47 PM

looks nice! sounds like a score for $300 and some sweat.

missipboy · 01-24-08, 10:42 AM

awesome build. you made quick work of that trailer.

Roberto · 01-24-08, 04:50 PM

sweet, nice build, what kind of cooler is on the front?

Rob

lowenbrau · 01-24-08, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boctor12

There was some damage to the front of the tub. So we decided to cut about 16 inches from the front, rotate is 180 degree's, and fab a tailgate and storage box for the front.

Brilliant! I love the "inside" and "outside" storage idea.

boctor12 · 01-25-08, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roberto

sweet, nice build, what kind of cooler is on the front?

Rob

It is a coleman stainless steel cooler.

KOWBOY · 01-25-08, 09:46 AM

Nice build on the trailer sir.

I'll be startin' mine soon and gotta coupla questions ... 'bout the tow rig.

Do you happen to know the overall weight and/or tongue weight of your trailer? Did your jeep have any problems towing it? Stopping it?

boctor12 · 01-25-08, 01:45 PM

The jeep did not have any problems towing or stopping. With the trailer fully loaded the tongue weight I would say is about 150 lbs. I still need to try pulling it with the propane and gas tanks filled, that may make a difference.

REZARF · 01-25-08, 01:54 PM

Love the pink ATV and the little rider outfit! Have fun, great build!

pint · 04-20-08, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boctor12

Bought some 33's on rock crawler wheels, added rancho shocks, put new led lights, painted frame, NOS springs with all new shackles.

Where did you find the NOS springs, shackles, etc? Bye the way, that is one killer trailer build! Nice work. I hope mine turns out close to this nice!

pint · 04-20-08, 02:30 PM

Do you have more info on your battery, inverter, charger setup? I need to do something similar. Did you buy the metal cases everything is housed in, or have them made?

boctor12 · 04-20-08, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pint

Do you have more info on your battery, inverter, charger setup? I need to do something similar. Did you buy the metal cases everything is housed in, or have them made?

When I was shopping for the battery i called aventure trailers to see what they ran. The recommended the AGM Deka batery. It is a sealed "absorbed glass mat" battery with about 130 or so amp hours. I paid $245 for it and so far I happy with it. The charger i used is a 6 amp guest charger. I put a shore line plug so it is easier to connect. The metal cases are sold at most industrial and commercial electrical suppliers. They have all kinds of different sizes. Look below for more recent pics.

boctor12 · 04-20-08, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pint

Where did you find the NOS springs, shackles, etc? Bye the way, that is one killer trailer build! Nice work. I hope mine turns out close to this nice!

Thanks Pint. I bought them online from some militay surplus store. I will try to find the link and post it. The suspension is the same as the early 1950's jeeps, so search there as well.

boctor12 · 04-20-08, 10:56 PM

Here are more recent pics of the trailer. I rearranged the front box and put a water tank, 2.8 gpm pump, faucet and hose. Also wired 6 lights and put a switch box in.

VanGo · 04-22-08, 05:48 AM

Great job! I like this set up. I you found any draw backs to have a having a short trailer bed lenght?

Van

boctor12 · 04-22-08, 09:32 AM

Thanks. No, not really. I have about 50" of length so I can fit everything I need. One thing I would like to do is incorporate some storage boxes some how. I have been looking at the Tradesmen truck boxes. If I put those on they will give some space for storage and camping supplies.

boctor12 · 11-17-08, 12:51 AM

Almost done with this build. Here are some recent pictures. Here is a list of what I have done thus far:

- 3500# axle with electric brakes, 5 on 4.5 with matching jeep wheels
- Wired all trailer lights with reverse light on trailer.
- Tub sand blasted
- Added Tradesman Tongue Box
- Pre-wired Blue Sea 6 switch board (4 perimeter lights switches, 1 water pump switch, 1 stereo switch.
- Junction Box for trailer wiring
- AGM battery with separate disconnect for switch panel
- Battery charger with shore power
- Tongue Jack
- JP rectangular cooler
- 19 gal water tank with Shur-Flo pump, pressure hose & faucet
- Propane tank
- Line-X on all surfaces (top if tongue and side steps, fenders, inside of tub, outside of tub to match jeep green, tent rack & back of tailgate.
- Had front box that holds water tank powder coated.

Still on the list:
- 12 volt power for tongue box
- Install custom shelving/drawers with stereo
- Install automatic light for tongue box

01-08-08, 11:37 AM	#1
boctor12 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 63	M-416 Build Here is a M-416 build my cousin and i started a few months ago. It is still in progress. I purchased the trailer for $300. I got most of the ideas from this site. Here are some pics of what i have done. Last edited by boctor12; 01-08-08 at 06:05 PM.

01-08-08, 11:50 AM	#2
boctor12 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 63	Bought some 33's on rock crawler wheels, added rancho shocks, put new led lights, painted frame, NOS springs with all new shackles. Last edited by boctor12; 01-08-08 at 02:12 PM.

01-08-08, 01:13 PM	#3
calsum2 Rookie no more:) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 208	JEEP? Yikes is that a jeep in the back ground.....get your priorities straight go TEQ.

01-08-08, 02:27 PM	#4
boctor12 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 63	Yes, it is a jeep . Focus on the trailer. Here are some pics of cutting the tub. There was some damage to the front of the tub. So we decided to cut about 16 inches from the front, rotate it 180 degree's, and fab a tailgate and storage box for the front. Last edited by boctor12; 01-25-08 at 01:07 AM.

01-08-08, 05:54 PM	#6
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,857	Man that looks great! And GOOD on ya' for gettin' your boy involved. Love that pic of him with the hood on! I really like the idea you have of adding a box up front, and your method of how you are going about it is really, really cool! Sweet rack too! Keep it up and keep the pics coming! Drew __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

01-08-08, 02:36 PM	#5
boctor12 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 63	I bought a roof top tent so we decided to mount it on a 1 3/4" square tube rack. I also put some tubing to hold a shovel and axe. The tubing follows the contour of the inside of the trailer. We did this because we needed to support the flimsy tub and have a place to mount tailgate latches.

01-08-08, 06:17 PM	#7
boctor12 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 63	Thanks. That is my cousins kid and he is actually showing my cousin how to weld. We changed the rack after the last picture because it was way to high with the tent on. So we decided to lower it. I will add more pics this weekend. It is painted and the tailgate and front box is complete. Patrick

01-09-08, 05:25 AM	#8
Wolf IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 30	great job, but aren't you afraid of the topweight?? I saw pictures of a 'normal' M416 that turned over in the desert just because one wheel felt in a hole.

01-09-08, 12:57 PM	#10
Wolf IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 30	__________________ http://users.pandora.be/wwolf/remrok2.htm FOR SALE

01-21-08, 03:16 PM	#11
boctor12 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 63	New Pics Here are some pics of the trailer. The fenders are still in progress. I put a AGM battery that adventure trailers recommended. Also, I wired a battery charger with an external plug and 4 -12 volt plugs for accessorries, it is that grey box in the front. Mounted two jerry cans. I am still going to wire some flood lights all around the trailer,line-x the inside black and the outside to match the green jeep. I am also trying to figure out a way to mount two propane burners and a bar-b-q. Last edited by boctor12; 01-21-08 at 06:49 PM.

01-21-08, 06:07 PM	#12
arcteryx IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tejas TLCA# 15006 Posts: 607	Looks good! Are those feet to support the trailer on the rear on the last pic? I don't see them on the trailer pics when it's hooked up to your receiver. How are those mounted and do they help? Do you have front ones too? __________________ Treasurer of Austin Lone Star Land Cruisers TLCA # 15006 Looking for a Cruiser..... Relics: 1991 BTJ80, 1985 BJ70, 1997 FZJ80, 1981 FJ40, 1978 FJ40

01-21-08, 06:39 PM	#13
boctor12 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 63	They are removable stabalizers that are just placed under the rear bumper. They have a rachet strap that connects to the landing legs and pulls them together. I got them for the rear only and the they work good. The trailer does not move much when inside the tent.

01-23-08, 11:47 PM	#14
philos1 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the valley, yeah that one Posts: 1,447	looks nice! sounds like a score for $300 and some sweat. __________________ no cruiser right now :( 1995 Volvo 850 Turbo defender of the good, mo-fessional drunk, total art-fag, and all around nice guy...

01-24-08, 10:42 AM	#15
missipboy IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: tunica, ms Posts: 1,385	awesome build. you made quick work of that trailer. __________________ m416 build http://forum.ih8mud.com/trailer-tech...6-buildup.html soa troopy-sold http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj45-owners-...oa-troopy.html hj45lv*t build http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj45-owners-...2At-build.html

01-24-08, 04:50 PM	#16
Roberto IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lumberton, NC Posts: 1,033	sweet, nice build, what kind of cooler is on the front? Rob

04-20-08, 02:30 PM	#23
pint IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Parker, CO TLCA# 17493 Posts: 1,129	Do you have more info on your battery, inverter, charger setup? I need to do something similar. Did you buy the metal cases everything is housed in, or have them made? __________________ 2000 UZJ100, OME 865, OME T-bars, Slee Diff Drop, Slee SliderSteps, TJM T3, PowerStop Cross Drilled & Slotted Rotors, 295 Terra Grapplers M101 Trailer - Sold 1993 Bontrager Race Lite MTB

01-25-08, 09:46 AM	#19
KOWBOY Unwise One Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Elwood, TX TLCA# 1133 Posts: 3,102	Nice build on the trailer sir. I'll be startin' mine soon and gotta coupla questions ... 'bout the tow rig. Do you happen to know the overall weight and/or tongue weight of your trailer? Did your jeep have any problems towing it? Stopping it? __________________ I'm the President of The White Trash of the Elwood Chapter and Proprietor of The 3X's Ranch and Retirement Home .... and you ain't. ......

01-25-08, 01:45 PM	#20
boctor12 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 63	The jeep did not have any problems towing or stopping. With the trailer fully loaded the tongue weight I would say is about 150 lbs. I still need to try pulling it with the propane and gas tanks filled, that may make a difference.

01-25-08, 01:54 PM	#21
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,857	Love the pink ATV and the little rider outfit! Have fun, great build! __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

04-20-08, 10:56 PM	#26
boctor12 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 63	Here are more recent pics of the trailer. I rearranged the front box and put a water tank, 2.8 gpm pump, faucet and hose. Also wired 6 lights and put a switch box in.

04-22-08, 05:48 AM	#27
VanGo IH8MUD FZJ80 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Washington, DC TLCA# 18273 Posts: 87	Great job! I like this set up. I you found any draw backs to have a having a short trailer bed lenght? Van __________________ Van KB3RWR 97 FJZ80, 40th, Locked,285/75/16, Modular Storage Solution, 15# Powertank 2008 SIENNA 1967 M416 Trailer

04-22-08, 09:32 AM	#28
boctor12 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 63	Thanks. No, not really. I have about 50" of length so I can fit everything I need. One thing I would like to do is incorporate some storage boxes some how. I have been looking at the Tradesmen truck boxes. If I put those on they will give some space for storage and camping supplies.

11-17-08, 12:51 AM	#29
boctor12 IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 63	Almost done with this build. Here are some recent pictures. Here is a list of what I have done thus far: - 3500# axle with electric brakes, 5 on 4.5 with matching jeep wheels - Wired all trailer lights with reverse light on trailer. - Tub sand blasted - Added Tradesman Tongue Box - Pre-wired Blue Sea 6 switch board (4 perimeter lights switches, 1 water pump switch, 1 stereo switch. - Junction Box for trailer wiring - AGM battery with separate disconnect for switch panel - Battery charger with shore power - Tongue Jack - JP rectangular cooler - 19 gal water tank with Shur-Flo pump, pressure hose & faucet - Propane tank - Line-X on all surfaces (top if tongue and side steps, fenders, inside of tub, outside of tub to match jeep green, tent rack & back of tailgate. - Had front box that holds water tank powder coated. Still on the list: - 12 volt power for tongue box - Install custom shelving/drawers with stereo - Install automatic light for tongue box