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Degnol · 10-29-07, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alia176

Since I'm a coil spring kinda guy, some dumb questions:

- what is the length of these springs - eye to eye?
-how did you decide which leaf to remove from the pack?
-not sure what you meant by not centered -

maybe a pic will help.
-what is your intended total weight of the trailer?

Thanks kindly.

I think they are about 43", IIRC
Which leafs to use? I gave the shortest and the 3rd to Haystax...........so I used the remaining leafs..............very scientific

Look at the forst pic in the first post, you'll see the spring pin offset to the front

Axle is rated 3500#, but that was more a function of the 6-on-5.5" stud pattern. I won't probably carry more than 1,000# A spare tire/wheel or two, 2-4 fuel cans, water and camping gear. But I may also haul firewood, mulch, dirt and gravel.
Thanks,
Ed

alia176 · 10-29-07, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Degnol

I think they are about 43", IIRC
Which leafs to use? I gave the shortest and the 3rd to Haystax...........so I used the remaining leafs..............very scientific

Look at the forst pic in the first post, you'll see the spring pin offset to the front

Axle is rated 3500#, but that was more a function of the 6-on-5.5" stud pattern. I won't probably carry more than 1,000# A spare tire/wheel or two, 2-4 fuel cans, water and camping gear. But I may also haul firewood, mulch, dirt and gravel.
Thanks,
Ed

Ok, got it. Now that I know what to look for, I understand the offset thing. My trailer is about 1200#s wet so I need to figure out which leaves to pull out. Also, thanks for the link for the shackles as I'm sure I'll be needing a set as well. My trailer chassis is quite narrow so your gusseting pics are making sense to me.

Thanks again.

grant5127 · 11-04-07, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Degnol

But I may also haul firewood, mulch, dirt and gravel.

Better think about adding a tilt dump option.......

Degnol · 11-04-07, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grant5127

Better think about adding a tilt dump option.......

I AM the tilt/dump option! But if that was the primary intended use, a good idea indeed. What brings you over here to Trailer Tech?

Ed

Degnol · 11-11-07, 10:22 AM

Slipped a section of 3" 1/4 wall tubing over the receiver-tongue to make a 3" place to weld the channel and to reinforce the tubing. Due to the welded seam inside the 3" stuff(even though I removed it) I could not slide that short piece over the 2 1'2 tube. I had to slit it, open it with a pickle fork then clamp and weld after getting it to place. I.m going to have to SawZall the extra tubing off

because I did not have a clear plan as to how long to leave it.

Couple of pics...

REZARF · 11-11-07, 01:04 PM

Looking GOOD bud, keep it up!

Drew

Degnol · 11-11-07, 01:16 PM

Thanks. I just came in from adding the other brace and cutting off the extra tube with the SawZall......actually went very fast. Now in the process of figuring out what lengths, (short and long) I want the tongue to be.

I'll go play with it...............the trailer, that is

Ed

Degnol · 11-11-07, 02:36 PM

Pics I forgot to add.........

sseaman · 11-12-07, 09:30 AM

that looks nice and solid, good design

Acadia · 03-08-08, 08:15 AM

any updates?

Degnol · 03-08-08, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acadia

any updates?

Well,I had to clean out the garage to get it inside. The tongue is done, but needs to be slipped into the trailer receiver and drilled for a 5/8" pin, then off to the sheetmetal shop for the tub

Ed

Degnol · 06-03-08, 07:42 PM

Can't believe I have done nothing for three months

Been too busy reading Drew's thread

I bought some shock mounts from Dan at Ruffstuff and ordered some "shot-in-the-dark" shocks. We'll see how they work out. The angle is weird, but not too far off the M416 design. At least they will work against the shackle movement. Hell, it ain't no Cadillac

Going to put some lights on it and send it to the sheetmetal guy to take to work. He will no doubt want to make the tub out of stainless.

Ed

Degnol · 06-03-08, 07:46 PM

A repost pic of the "home made lunette" and attached to the extendable tongue....

REZARF · 06-03-08, 11:16 PM

Man, that look great! I am digging the shocks for sure, they will dampen still, though a bit reduced. I really dig the pintel swivel!!!! Nice job bud.

Drew

Degnol · 06-04-08, 07:05 AM

The shocks will hopefully just keep the little trailer from bouncing. They are gas charged KYBs and I compressed them about 1 1/2", so they have about 5-6" of compression left. Could have gained a little length by welding the lower toward the bottom of the axle, but I doubt it would have much effect.

Since I am going for the "look" of a 416/101, I have a pair of convoy tail lights that may be a little harder to convert to LEDs than I thought. I'm anxious to get it to the sheetmetal shop so I may just fit some generic(read CHEAP) trailer lights on it for now.

Thanks for the encouragement!

Ed

Degnol · 06-04-08, 11:50 AM

Picked up a set of magnetic towing lights, so temporary light problem solved. This is the first time I've had it hooked up to the '40. Went to the sheetmetal guy and ordered the metal. I'm going to use 14ga for all of it. Trailer tows nicely with no bounce

Hope to have an update next week.

ed

Degnol · 06-25-08, 06:28 PM

I had the welding shop break(or is it "brake"?) some 14ga for me. The bottom has a 2" lip on it, the sides are clamped on the outside and the ends have a 2" lip. I can only clamp the very ends of the sides, so to hold the middle tight when welding, I'll use some Cleco pins. More pics this weekend.

Ed

pint · 06-25-08, 08:10 PM

Very sweet build man!!!

camcruiser13 · 06-25-08, 11:01 PM

looking good.

Kavik · 06-28-08, 12:08 AM

subscribed...

Degnol · 06-29-08, 10:15 AM

OK, I borrowed a set of Cleco pins from a bodyshop friend and gave it a go. These things are slick. I drilled 1/8" holes on 6" centers in the side piece only, flipped it over and hit it with a sanding disc to remove any burs from the side that will mate to the floor piece. Then I reclamped it to the floor and drilled through the lip on the floor. Started in the middle and worked my way to the ends, placing a pin in each freshly drilled hole as I went......
These little pins are very strong

Ed

sseaman · 06-29-08, 05:10 PM

Cool, never seen those before

Degnol · 06-29-08, 08:07 PM

I borrowed these because the ones I ordered have not come in yet. Bought 50 pins and the pliers for about $65 shipped. The Bee's knees

Ed

RHINO · 07-01-08, 05:38 PM

i like cleco's, when my dad retired from aerospace tooling and machining i got alot of his tools. all kinds of neat-o things.

anyway, the trailers is lookin great !! i have a Q, your not the first ive seen do this, why the 416 style bump out wide on the top trailer box thing?? i never understood that.

Degnol · 07-01-08, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHINO

i like cleco's, when my dad retired from aerospace tooling and machining i got alot of his tools. all kinds of neat-o things.

anyway, the trailers is lookin great !! i have a Q, your not the first ive seen do this, why the 416 style bump out wide on the top trailer box thing?? i never understood that.

Rhino, I suspect the original reason was to aid it's "floatability", but I just like the look

Ed

And I first saw Clecos in a pic of a plane being built!!

11-11-07, 10:22 AM	#35
Degnol Noaccount Webwheeler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansastitty TLCA# 14529 Posts: 6,556	A little more progress...... Slipped a section of 3" 1/4 wall tubing over the receiver-tongue to make a 3" place to weld the channel and to reinforce the tubing. Due to the welded seam inside the 3" stuff(even though I removed it) I could not slide that short piece over the 2 1'2 tube. I had to slit it, open it with a pickle fork then clamp and weld after getting it to place. I.m going to have to SawZall the extra tubing off because I did not have a clear plan as to how long to leave it. Couple of pics... Attached Images __________________ There is nothing so depraved as a man in the depths of an ether binge '66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser...LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser...LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers

11-11-07, 01:04 PM	#36
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,857	Looking GOOD bud, keep it up! Drew __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

11-11-07, 01:16 PM	#37
Degnol Noaccount Webwheeler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansastitty TLCA# 14529 Posts: 6,556	Thanks. I just came in from adding the other brace and cutting off the extra tube with the SawZall......actually went very fast. Now in the process of figuring out what lengths, (short and long) I want the tongue to be. I'll go play with it...............the trailer, that is Ed __________________ There is nothing so depraved as a man in the depths of an ether binge '66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser...LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser...LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers

11-11-07, 02:36 PM	#38
Degnol Noaccount Webwheeler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansastitty TLCA# 14529 Posts: 6,556	Pics I forgot to add......... Attached Images __________________ There is nothing so depraved as a man in the depths of an ether binge '66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser...LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser...LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers

11-12-07, 09:30 AM	#39
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03-08-08, 08:15 AM	#40
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06-03-08, 07:42 PM	#42
Degnol Noaccount Webwheeler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansastitty TLCA# 14529 Posts: 6,556	Time flies when you're sittin' on yer arse.. Can't believe I have done nothing for three months Been too busy reading Drew's thread I bought some shock mounts from Dan at Ruffstuff and ordered some "shot-in-the-dark" shocks. We'll see how they work out. The angle is weird, but not too far off the M416 design. At least they will work against the shackle movement. Hell, it ain't no Cadillac Going to put some lights on it and send it to the sheetmetal guy to take to work. He will no doubt want to make the tub out of stainless. Ed Attached Images __________________ There is nothing so depraved as a man in the depths of an ether binge '66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser...LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser...LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers

06-03-08, 07:46 PM	#43
Degnol Noaccount Webwheeler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansastitty TLCA# 14529 Posts: 6,556	A repost pic of the "home made lunette" and attached to the extendable tongue.... Attached Images __________________ There is nothing so depraved as a man in the depths of an ether binge '66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser...LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser...LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers

06-03-08, 11:16 PM	#44
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,857	Man, that look great! I am digging the shocks for sure, they will dampen still, though a bit reduced. I really dig the pintel swivel!!!! Nice job bud. Drew __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

06-04-08, 07:05 AM	#45
Degnol Noaccount Webwheeler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansastitty TLCA# 14529 Posts: 6,556	The shocks will hopefully just keep the little trailer from bouncing. They are gas charged KYBs and I compressed them about 1 1/2", so they have about 5-6" of compression left. Could have gained a little length by welding the lower toward the bottom of the axle, but I doubt it would have much effect. Since I am going for the "look" of a 416/101, I have a pair of convoy tail lights that may be a little harder to convert to LEDs than I thought. I'm anxious to get it to the sheetmetal shop so I may just fit some generic(read CHEAP) trailer lights on it for now. Thanks for the encouragement! Ed __________________ There is nothing so depraved as a man in the depths of an ether binge '66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser...LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser...LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers

06-04-08, 11:50 AM	#46
Degnol Noaccount Webwheeler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansastitty TLCA# 14529 Posts: 6,556	Picked up a set of magnetic towing lights, so temporary light problem solved. This is the first time I've had it hooked up to the '40. Went to the sheetmetal guy and ordered the metal. I'm going to use 14ga for all of it. Trailer tows nicely with no bounce Hope to have an update next week. ed Attached Images __________________ There is nothing so depraved as a man in the depths of an ether binge '66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser...LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser...LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers

06-25-08, 06:28 PM	#47
Degnol Noaccount Webwheeler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansastitty TLCA# 14529 Posts: 6,556	I had the welding shop break(or is it "brake"?) some 14ga for me. The bottom has a 2" lip on it, the sides are clamped on the outside and the ends have a 2" lip. I can only clamp the very ends of the sides, so to hold the middle tight when welding, I'll use some Cleco pins. More pics this weekend. Ed Attached Images __________________ There is nothing so depraved as a man in the depths of an ether binge '66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser...LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser...LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers

06-25-08, 08:10 PM	#48
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06-25-08, 11:01 PM	#49
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06-28-08, 12:08 AM	#50
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06-29-08, 10:15 AM	#51
Degnol Noaccount Webwheeler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansastitty TLCA# 14529 Posts: 6,556	OK, I borrowed a set of Cleco pins from a bodyshop friend and gave it a go. These things are slick. I drilled 1/8" holes on 6" centers in the side piece only, flipped it over and hit it with a sanding disc to remove any burs from the side that will mate to the floor piece. Then I reclamped it to the floor and drilled through the lip on the floor. Started in the middle and worked my way to the ends, placing a pin in each freshly drilled hole as I went...... These little pins are very strong Ed Attached Images __________________ There is nothing so depraved as a man in the depths of an ether binge '66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser...LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser...LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers

06-29-08, 05:10 PM	#52
sseaman IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,372	Cool, never seen those before __________________ 91 FJ80 318k, spare tire mod, custom roof rack----SOLD 98 4runner 141k---SOLD 98 Avalon 149k 04 Sequoia 74k

06-29-08, 08:07 PM	#53
Degnol Noaccount Webwheeler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansastitty TLCA# 14529 Posts: 6,556	I borrowed these because the ones I ordered have not come in yet. Bought 50 pins and the pliers for about $65 shipped. The Bee's knees Ed __________________ There is nothing so depraved as a man in the depths of an ether binge '66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser...LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser...LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers

07-01-08, 05:38 PM	#54
RHINO IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: valley of the sunstroke, AZ Posts: 2,876	i like cleco's, when my dad retired from aerospace tooling and machining i got alot of his tools. all kinds of neat-o things. anyway, the trailers is lookin great !! i have a Q, your not the first ive seen do this, why the 416 style bump out wide on the top trailer box thing?? i never understood that. __________________ 75 BDJ55- biopig