My scratch built expedition style trailer build up thread - Page 13

J-man · 01-02-08, 03:58 PM

yeah, i was happy that my fenders completly cover my baja trailer tires for the rock kick issue. Just for note, when i was pulling a 5x8 carson trailer thru baja a few years back, the tires stuck out 1.5 inches past the fenders, a rock got kicked up and hit the rear window on my old tacoma - shattered to pieces - i thought someone was shooting at me until i found the rock in the cab.

REZARF · 01-02-08, 04:37 PM

That settles it! Thanks guys!

Drew

ColoCruiserJeff · 01-02-08, 09:51 PM

And how much are you asking for it when you're done ?? ? ?

Looks awesome!

REZARF · 01-02-08, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColoCruiserJeff

And how much are you asking for it when you're done ?? ? ?

Looks awesome!

Depends on how much your offering!

I hope this is a "stays in the family thing" for a long time, or it becomes, "yeah, my grandpa built this back at the turn of the millenium."

REZARF · 01-05-08, 11:32 AM

Get the whole day for the trailer today WOOO HOO!

sseaman · 01-05-08, 07:04 PM

pics pics pics

REZARF · 01-05-08, 09:30 PM

I got tired of workin' on the trailer, so I switched gears today and made this instead.

Rezarf <><

REZARF · 01-11-08, 08:45 PM

Well, it seems like my sheet steel is on the move now!

I have a club member helping me out with the sheet stuff and I am really excited to see the process, some of the sheet will be cut out with a laser!

I hope to be able to get a bit hands on and see the action as it unfolds, stay tuned!

RHINO · 01-12-08, 08:29 PM

the sheet work was pretty simple on mine but it was the most frustrating part of the whole build.

Degnol · 01-13-08, 10:14 PM

Drew, are you skinning the inside or the outside? I'm assuming the outside from your drawings......

Ed

REZARF · 01-14-08, 09:40 AM

Nope, I like the tube look so I am going to skin the inside of nearly all surfaces, I will skin the outside of a few surfaces depending on where they are and what is attached to them.

thanks!

Drew

cabron · 01-14-08, 11:55 AM

Great build so far, keep it up!

REZARF · 01-15-08, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHINO

the sheet work was pretty simple on mine but it was the most frustrating part of the whole build.

Good to know what i am up against.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabron

Great build so far, keep it up!

Thanks! AxleIke came over tonight and helped me think through a few more design details and knock out the other fender tubing. Just waiting on the steel for the next big push.

Rezarf <><

RHINO · 01-16-08, 08:03 PM

wish i could remeber the name of the stuff, i'll look for it,,, but there is an adhesive made for gluing the sheet on.

REZARF · 01-16-08, 08:22 PM

3M VHB (Very High Bond) Tape is some thing I have checked out, and it looks amazing for lots of applications. A lot of semi trailers are being assembled with it these days.

That said, spot welds are much cheaper

I am planning on zero rust on the tube with weld-through primer between the sheet and tubes, spot welds, stitch welds were I can, seam sealer $

and top coat with a quality paint.

RHINO · 01-16-08, 10:05 PM

this stuff was applied like contact cement instead of a tape,,, who knows could be the same in tape form?? but yeah thats how i found it with the semi trailer industry.

i cleco'ed my skins up to hold them for stitch welding, not bad. i tried the weld through primer, seemed to spit and crackle alot so i stopped using it.

next time i'll just have a trailer cnc'ed from a solid hunk of 6061

REZARF · 01-16-08, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHINO

next time i'll just have a trailer cnc'ed from a solid hunk of 6061

LOL!

tltaylor22 · 01-16-08, 11:24 PM

We use a ton of the 3m VHB tape at work. It's like $100 per roll. We use it to attach a powder coated frame to a synthetic wood product. The stuff sucks. I am currently finding a replacement product. I know the sales pitch about it being used on trailers..., but in the heat the adhesive will fail and then thermal expansion will eventually rip the two pieces apart. Your trailer looks good by the way.

REZARF · 01-17-08, 10:34 AM

Good to hear first hand experience, I have heard it is good stuff if it can be installed in a clean room environment.

Blue 60 · 01-17-08, 04:41 PM

I've heard of the VHB "stuff". Go check out Nature Photography by Rob Gray and see his wothahellisthat project. He used it to adhere large sheets of 2mm thick alum. diamond plate to the steel frame of his truck. It held up quite well. Just needs good prep. Plan on losing a half a day reading the site....

My $.02,

Blue 60

JONNYFJ · 01-17-08, 08:58 PM

That is sweet that you know how to fabricate. It looks great keep posting pics

cruiserdan · 01-18-08, 09:58 AM

Need some new pics!

REZARF · 01-18-08, 06:23 PM

Wow, the great cruiserdan is following this thread...

I am humbled... :hill:

Soon!

Hopefully something over the weekend, I have been working on my front bumper.

bigassbike · 01-18-08, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruiserdan

Need some new pics!

x2 Please

philos1 · 01-19-08, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruiserdan

Need some new pics!

X3

REZARF · 01-19-08, 11:35 PM

Here is what got my time last weekend, fresh from powder coating!

It was nice to FINISH a project

01-02-08, 03:58 PM	#361
J-man IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: West Los Angeles Posts: 124	yeah, i was happy that my fenders completly cover my baja trailer tires for the rock kick issue. Just for note, when i was pulling a 5x8 carson trailer thru baja a few years back, the tires stuck out 1.5 inches past the fenders, a rock got kicked up and hit the rear window on my old tacoma - shattered to pieces - i thought someone was shooting at me until i found the rock in the cab. __________________ 2003 Land Cruiser v8 4x4 2000 4Runner v6 5spd 4x4 - Turbo'd and Baja ready... 1999 4Runner v6 5spd 4x4 1998 4Runner v6 5spd 4x4 factory locker 1997 4Runner v6 Auto 4x4 All have Saw's/OME combo lifts & custom roof racks My Baja Trailer Build: http://forum.ih8mud.com/trailer-tech/179520-my-baja-trailer-build.html

01-02-08, 04:37 PM	#362
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,857	That settles it! Thanks guys! Drew __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

01-02-08, 09:51 PM	#363
ColoCruiserJeff IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Just moved to Highlands Ranch, CO! TLCA# Don't have one yet :) Posts: 598	And how much are you asking for it when you're done ?? ? ? Looks awesome! __________________ "Soon Ralph, Soon!" MY TOYS: 72' FJ40, Sold on eBay,guy never heard of an FJ40! :( 81' FJ40, went the way of the destructor! (parted out) 66' FJ45LV, currently being fixed back up! 02' Tacoma Double Cab, TRD SuperCharged- My Daily Driver 99' Acura TL - Wife's My Fix-up Thread: http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj45-owners-club/113621-here-goes-66-lv-restore-thread.html

01-05-08, 11:32 AM	#365
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,857	Get the whole day for the trailer today WOOO HOO! __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

01-05-08, 07:04 PM	#366
sseaman IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,372	pics pics pics __________________ 91 FJ80 318k, spare tire mod, custom roof rack----SOLD 98 4runner 141k---SOLD 98 Avalon 149k 04 Sequoia 74k

01-05-08, 09:30 PM	#367
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,857	I got tired of workin' on the trailer, so I switched gears today and made this instead. Rezarf <>< __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

01-11-08, 08:45 PM	#368
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,857	Well, it seems like my sheet steel is on the move now! I have a club member helping me out with the sheet stuff and I am really excited to see the process, some of the sheet will be cut out with a laser! I hope to be able to get a bit hands on and see the action as it unfolds, stay tuned! __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

01-12-08, 08:29 PM	#369
RHINO IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: valley of the sunstroke, AZ Posts: 2,876	the sheet work was pretty simple on mine but it was the most frustrating part of the whole build. __________________ 75 BDJ55- biopig

01-13-08, 10:14 PM	#370
Degnol Noaccount Webwheeler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansastitty TLCA# 14529 Posts: 6,556	Drew, are you skinning the inside or the outside? I'm assuming the outside from your drawings...... Ed __________________ There is nothing so depraved as a man in the depths of an ether binge '66FJ40, Fresh 2F, H42/Orion(By Poser...LCR4WD), ARB Front/rear(By Poser...LCR4WD), MetalTech Cage installed by Poser, Screw-ups fixed(by Poser) 4WDB Corvette Master, Mini Truck PS, 3.5" Lift, Warn 8274, 33s on stockers

01-14-08, 09:40 AM	#371
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,857	Nope, I like the tube look so I am going to skin the inside of nearly all surfaces, I will skin the outside of a few surfaces depending on where they are and what is attached to them. thanks! Drew __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

01-14-08, 11:55 AM	#372
cabron IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 1,725	Great build so far, keep it up! __________________ 1974 Toyota FJ40 (sold Jan 27) 1985 Toyota FJ60 two-tone, Safari Rack, OME Heavy,33x9.5's, custom front/rear bumpers, fully sound deadened, Alpine H/U, Rainbow components, dual v12 amps, 12" Type_R, Mot's Lights.

01-16-08, 08:03 PM	#374
RHINO IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: valley of the sunstroke, AZ Posts: 2,876	wish i could remeber the name of the stuff, i'll look for it,,, but there is an adhesive made for gluing the sheet on. __________________ 75 BDJ55- biopig

01-16-08, 08:22 PM	#375
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,857	3M VHB (Very High Bond) Tape is some thing I have checked out, and it looks amazing for lots of applications. A lot of semi trailers are being assembled with it these days. That said, spot welds are much cheaper I am planning on zero rust on the tube with weld-through primer between the sheet and tubes, spot welds, stitch welds were I can, seam sealer $and top coat with a quality paint. __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

01-16-08, 10:05 PM	#376
RHINO IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: valley of the sunstroke, AZ Posts: 2,876	this stuff was applied like contact cement instead of a tape,,, who knows could be the same in tape form?? but yeah thats how i found it with the semi trailer industry. i cleco'ed my skins up to hold them for stitch welding, not bad. i tried the weld through primer, seemed to spit and crackle alot so i stopped using it. next time i'll just have a trailer cnc'ed from a solid hunk of 6061 __________________ 75 BDJ55- biopig

01-16-08, 11:24 PM	#378
tltaylor22 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 339	We use a ton of the 3m VHB tape at work. It's like $100 per roll. We use it to attach a powder coated frame to a synthetic wood product. The stuff sucks. I am currently finding a replacement product. I know the sales pitch about it being used on trailers..., but in the heat the adhesive will fail and then thermal expansion will eventually rip the two pieces apart. Your trailer looks good by the way. __________________ Trent Taylor 76 fj40, sm420, 4wdb, 35 muds,bikini made out of a trampolin. 93 80 w/270k, fading green paint, flareless, 255 muds, home built front bumper, and a load whine that wont go away. 97 40th Sage w/lockers--Bone stock

01-17-08, 08:58 PM	#381
JONNYFJ Quiet there's a J**P Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: IRAQ :( TLCA# 18337 Posts: 307	That is sweet that you know how to fabricate. It looks great keep posting pics __________________ 69 FJ40 383 Stroker SM420 3Speed Toyota T-Case SOA ARBs 35 MTRs and more 84 Mini Truck 22RE Stock Tranny Duel T-Cases Flat Bed 35s

01-18-08, 09:58 AM	#382
cruiserdan Parts Shaman (per Romer) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where's my glasses? TLCA# 11332 Posts: 14,045	Need some new pics! __________________ Original owner 93 FZJ80,locked,blown,water/methanol injected(like a WWII fighter aircraft),lifted,winched,snorkeled,slidered,Sleeed ,moneypit. Balanced on a pin head. 95 FZJ80 trail truck (hers), 94 FZJ80 320K with a knock and a lumpy old Dodge car.

01-17-08, 10:34 AM	#379
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,857	Good to hear first hand experience, I have heard it is good stuff if it can be installed in a clean room environment. __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

01-17-08, 04:41 PM	#380
Blue 60 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa TLCA# 17998 Posts: 136	another opinion I've heard of the VHB "stuff". Go check out Nature Photography by Rob Gray and see his wothahellisthat project. He used it to adhere large sheets of 2mm thick alum. diamond plate to the steel frame of his truck. It held up quite well. Just needs good prep. Plan on losing a half a day reading the site.... My $.02, Blue 60 __________________ Blue '84 fj60 - All Stock, but still quite capable. '93 FZJ80 - Stock & Locked, and even more capable. Tall Corn Cruisers

01-18-08, 06:23 PM	#383
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,857	Wow, the great cruiserdan is following this thread... I am humbled... :hill: Soon! Hopefully something over the weekend, I have been working on my front bumper. __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

01-19-08, 11:35 PM	#386
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,857	Here is what got my time last weekend, fresh from powder coating! It was nice to FINISH a project Attached Images __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.