leaf over axle 101 question

[lx450landcruiser]

those of you who did the leaf over axle on there 101s how much lift is gained? i just did it on mine and im thinking i need to go back to stock as i think its to high for my truck. what lift are you running on your trucks to need the leaf over axle?


also pics help alot

thanks
mike

[davegonz]

Mike, what pintle setup are you running? Reciever or are you using the 4 bolt holes on the bumper? I have OME heavy setup and my M100 trailer was not level, but leaning forwards due to the reciever/pintle hitch being so low. I ended up using a bolt on pintle hitch and the trailer now sits closer to level. If I end up doing a spring over on the trailer, I would probably need to get a new lunette casting (M100's don't have dual lunette positions like the M416). So you might want to try to put the lunette on the lowest hole and use a bolt on pintle hitch to try to get it level. Just a thought.

[Koffer]

Mike heres a couple of pixs I have of the M101 with my 80 that has 315s and J's

[desertdude]

4" slee springs on the 80 - the trailer rides level with 35's and a spring over - new 42" tongue with a Locknroll hitch

[davegonz]

Pasquale,

Do you have any pics of your new tongue? Also, did you get rid of the pintle and the casting? Let me know if you still have them and want to get rid of them. My M100 trailer only has one pintle position and I would like to use the lower one (from M416/M101C) to level out my trailer when I spring it over.

[desertdude]

Tongue with LocknRoll

SOA M101 and 80



I am removing a pintle from a second M101 - PM me we can work out the details

[LabRat11]

Originally Posted by desertdude;1894938

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d-d......

I'm leaning toward going this route with my M101. Did you have to use a spacer to be able to mount the 315's on stock 80 rims onto the M101?? Do you remember the parts source you used for the hub swap??

Trying to line up my spring projects


Many thanks

[desertdude]

No spacer with the 80 series alum wheels - I did extend the fenders out by 3"


hubs -> https://www.southwestwheel.com/store...l0655lb3e.aspx

Pefect fit - hub/bearings/seals/cap


( thanks Brett ( dieselbigot) for finding this info)

[KY854RUN]

Originally Posted by desertdude

No spacer with the 80 series alum wheels - I did extend the fenders out by 3"


hubs -> https://www.southwestwheel.com/store...l0655lb3e.aspx

Pefect fit - hub/bearings/seals/cap


( thanks Brett ( dieselbigot) for finding this info)

Hi desertdude

Do you know if that hub/drum/bearing/seal/cap combo will work on a M416? I'm in the process of buying one and will want to change it to the Toyota bolt pattern when I get it.

Thanks, Kevin

[desertdude]

I am not sure about the 416 - you could measure your hub ( or ask an M416 owner) then call Southwest Wheel

Originally Posted by KY854RUN

Hi desertdude

Do you know if that hub/drum/bearing/seal/cap combo will work on a M416? I'm in the process of buying one and will want to change it to the Toyota bolt pattern when I get it.

Thanks, Kevin

[Koffer]

No
the M416 uses a much larger spindle . To the point it uses wheel bearings around the size of the front bearings on a LC .
Most people Ive seen ether replace the whole axle with a new one or have the hub/drums redrilled to the right pattern ..

Originally Posted by KY854RUN

Hi desertdude

Do you know if that hub/drum/bearing/seal/cap combo will work on a M416? I'm in the process of buying one and will want to change it to the Toyota bolt pattern when I get it.

Thanks, Kevin

[KY854RUN]

Originally Posted by davegonz

Pasquale,

Do you have any pics of your new tongue? Also, did you get rid of the pintle and the casting? Let me know if you still have them and want to get rid of them. My M100 trailer only has one pintle position and I would like to use the lower one (from M416/M101C) to level out my trailer when I spring it over.

Hi Dave,

The front support casting of the M416/M101CDN will not fit properly on the M100 trailer. It is because The M416/M101CDN are wider than the M100. So, the arms of the draw bar are at different angles where they attach to the front support casting. This doesn't mean that it can't be done, only that it won't be a quick bolt up. I haven't heard of anyone having done this swap. So, document it in writing and photos when you do it. Good luck.

Kevin

[davegonz]

I'll take some pics sometime this week, but I did the swap and the person that swapped my M100 lunette with gave me some bent u-bolts that he made up to account for the new angle on the draw arms. I will eventually bend/weld up something more permanent, but it is working quite well.