Slowly but steadily...

TN_LandCruiser · 01-10-08, 08:24 AM

Finally getting somewhere on my bumper and sliders...here are a few pics.

Still have mods to make to the bumper to tie into the quarterpanel wings (white area will be cut out) and need to complete and attach the DS slider...but im getting there.

TN_LandCruiser · 01-10-08, 08:24 AM

Slider

TN_LandCruiser · 01-10-08, 08:35 AM

Receiver

Goode · 01-10-08, 01:53 PM

Looking Nice! What size materials are ya using?

TN_LandCruiser · 01-10-08, 01:59 PM

Thanks...its been a learning experience.

Bumper is 3/16" 4"x6", the slider is 3/16" 2"x3" and the slider arms are 2" 3x16.

The wings will be 3/16" plate steel.

Goode · 01-10-08, 02:05 PM

Cool....that seems to be the route I wanna take. 3/16 with 2x2 outriggers.....I was thinking 2x4 for the slider......since ya got yours burned in......what are your thoughts on 2x4 vs 2x3? I would like to have a little bit sticking out to use as a step. Which of course could be handled by cutting longer outriggers. I know it's only 1" diff, but.... Just wanted to get your opinion.

TN_LandCruiser · 01-10-08, 02:16 PM

I started with 2x4, but that chit is HEAVY (estimated, without outriggers, a 6' section of that weighed in around 60-75 lbs)....I was afraid gravity might wreak havoc on them over time and start to bend down. My whole slider now might weigh 55-60 lbs. IMO, the 2x3 is considerably lighter, still wide enough to support the weight of these beasts and my final product will have tubing for rubbing / steps...

If you went with a thinner ga tube, then 2x4 might be fine...but I only had 3/16 to work with for the price it was being offered (FREE), so I had to compensate accordingly.

Goode · 01-10-08, 02:24 PM

Good to know...

Could you explain or show a pic on how the bumper attaches to the frame? I haven't figured out how to go about doing this yet.

TN_LandCruiser · 01-10-08, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Goode

Good to know...

Could you explain or show a pic on how the bumper attaches to the frame? I haven't figured out how to go about doing this yet.

PM or email me your email address and I can send you pics...

Im schafer.steve at gmail dot com

sk8salomon · 01-10-08, 06:03 PM

looks good Steve! nice welds! does Todd know you have access to a welder? he was looking for one the other day.

Landcruizerdude · 01-10-08, 08:29 PM

The main thing is you're working in the garage with beer in your hand! Whatever happens.....don't spill the beer! One day I too will turn my 80 into a trail rig. Any plans to upgrade your suspension setup to account for the weight?

chattfj40 · 01-10-08, 08:52 PM

those are nice welds!...Steve, Like Sean said above, I'd need access to a welder to weld up the sheet metal (.023 wire) on my half doors. Technically I'd like to get these done for the MLK run, but time is getting short and I'm gonna be out of town this w/e. Let me know if you might could help a brother out next week. If we can't get it done next week, maybe we could work it out in the next few weeks...beer's on me

Let me know,

Sean: I hope you got my Text in response to your voice mail...I got off work late that night and didn't want to risk waking up the fam...

TN_LandCruiser · 01-10-08, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sk8salomon

looks good Steve! nice welds! does Todd know you have access to a welder? he was looking for one the other day.

Not sure...I have a small 75amp welder...but Brandon has the big boy...180amp 220v. I had to run an extra 220v outlet in my garage just for it to work.

Thanks for the comments

chattfj40 · 01-10-08, 09:32 PM

BTW, I just got back from my first trip to Aetna...in the dark and raining to help out Brian (fj60-Covent College), who in his infinite wisdom had decided to go wheeling this afternoon with a couple of buddies in one truck...Doh!

I had to throw the hard top and doors on and just got back ~30 mins ago...what fun it was

Re: the Welder, I just need something to do sheetmetal...hopefully with gas

TN_LandCruiser · 01-11-08, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chattfj40

BTW, I just got back from my first trip to Aetna...in the dark and raining to help out Brian (fj60-Covent College), who in his infinite wisdom had decided to go wheeling this afternoon with a couple of buddies in one truck...Doh!

I had to throw the hard top and doors on and just got back ~30 mins ago...what fun it was

Re: the Welder, I just need something to do sheetmetal...hopefully with gas

Aetna is fun...wet is even better!

My 75amp is primarily for sheet metal...and it does have a gas tank. Your welcome to it...just give me a holler some time...

Hugh Heifer · 01-13-08, 06:27 PM

Just for the record. I have .030 in mine, 110 and nope, no gas. I have been trying to find a conversion for it but the thing is ancient. Gas would be nice.

But...Looking good there, Steve.

LDowney · 01-13-08, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TN_LandCruiser

Not sure...I have a small 75amp welder...but Brandon has the big boy...180amp 220v. I had to run an extra 220v outlet in my garage just for it to work.

Thanks for the comments

I concur... Nice looking welds. I wish my looked nice enough to be worthy of showing. Also, your setup sounds like it is very versatile for a home setup: 220V for thicker material in structural projects like your sliders and bumper, with a 110V for thinner gauge projects.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh Heifer

Just for the record. I have .030 in mine, 110 and nope, no gas. I have been trying to find a conversion for it but the thing is ancient. Gas would be nice.

But...Looking good there, Steve.

I run 0.23 wire through my 110V welder with gas (Argon/CO2 mix) and find it very nice for thinner projects. For thicker materials (greater than 1/8th), I tack everything together at the house and take it over to a friend's house to use his welder (Miller 250 or 255 capable of 1/2" on a single pass) so I have complete confidence of full weld penetration.

Chris, If you do sort out gas for your welder, I have always found the Argon/CO2 to have less splatter than straight CO2, and less splatter makes for easier cleanup (in my opinion).

72cruiser · 01-14-08, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LDowney

Chris, If you do sort out gas for your welder, I have always found the Argon/CO2 to have less splatter than straight CO2, and less splatter makes for easier cleanup (in my opinion).

yeah, agreed on this. my bro-in-law and i have the exact same miller 175, but his is set up for straight CO2 and mine is argon/CO2 mix. i know it probably has as much to do with how much practice i have on my welder v. his as anything, but 10 out of 10 times, i have can get a bit nicer weld when i'm on mine.

also, heifer, if you're lookin for a good deal on a miller welder, let me know and i'll track down the number on the place i got mine...

and todd, if you're plannin on bein in nashville anytime soon and want to knock out those halfdoors, let me know. you're more than welcome in my house and garage and we could get em done in a saturday drinkin a lot of beer or just an evening drinkin a good amount of beer.

malphrus

TN_LandCruiser · 01-14-08, 08:40 AM

Thanks guys...Im finding welding pretty easy...especially since I was laying on my back welding above my head. Got a nice big amber that popped off and landed on my coat just over my biceps, burned thru the coat, my shirt and my arm. Got a nice pencil eraser size 2nd degree burn on my arm now.

Todd, Im hoping to find some time this week to get the other slider completed before MLK...so your welcome to come out and work on your doors.

Just give me a call at 423-421-8168

TN_LandCruiser · 01-16-08, 09:47 AM

Well, thanks to Brandon and his kick a$$ welder, I got my DS slider done Monday night. Sanded, primed and painted it last night...its hanging in my garage curing. Hopefully will have some time tonight to get it welded on.

Todd also came over Monday night and used my mini welder (75 amp) to work on his doors. My welder needs half marks between settings. 2 didnt penetrate and 3 burned thru...so it looked like a bunch of little boogers all the the length of the weld

, but it is attached. He took pics...

With a little (ok, a lot of) grinding and a little bondo, it will look professionally done when he is finished.

TN_LandCruiser · 01-17-08, 09:25 AM

DS Slider is done...pics attached...

LDowney · 01-17-08, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TN_LandCruiser

DS Slider is done...pics attached...

Followed by proof testing this weekend at Royal Blue?

TN_LandCruiser · 01-17-08, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LDowney

Followed by proof testing this weekend at Royal Blue?

Thats the plan!

Im only gonna be there on Saturday, so Im going to have to get an accelerated testing schedule in place!

Bodean · 01-19-08, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chattfj40

BTW, I just got back from my first trip to Aetna...in the dark and raining to help out Brian (fj60-Covent College), who in his infinite wisdom had decided to go wheeling this afternoon with a couple of buddies in one truck...Doh!

I had to throw the hard top and doors on and just got back ~30 mins ago...what fun it was

Re: the Welder, I just need something to do sheetmetal...hopefully with gas

Are we talking about Clutchee getting stuck?

Later,

01-10-08, 08:24 AM	#1
TN_LandCruiser IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN (Chattanooga) Posts: 402	Slowly but steadily... Finally getting somewhere on my bumper and sliders...here are a few pics. Still have mods to make to the bumper to tie into the quarterpanel wings (white area will be cut out) and need to complete and attach the DS slider...but im getting there. Attached Images __________________ 1992 FJ80 7 Pin CDL Mod 265/70-R16 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders OME J's front OME Heavies Rear ProComp 9000 shocks Custom built Rear bumper & sliders http://forum.ih8mud.com/tn-stlca/198...ml#post2927590 http://Schafer_Photography.photoshop.com

01-10-08, 08:24 AM	#2
TN_LandCruiser IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN (Chattanooga) Posts: 402	Slider Attached Images __________________ 1992 FJ80 7 Pin CDL Mod 265/70-R16 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders OME J's front OME Heavies Rear ProComp 9000 shocks Custom built Rear bumper & sliders http://forum.ih8mud.com/tn-stlca/198...ml#post2927590 http://Schafer_Photography.photoshop.com

01-10-08, 08:35 AM	#3
TN_LandCruiser IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN (Chattanooga) Posts: 402	Receiver Attached Images __________________ 1992 FJ80 7 Pin CDL Mod 265/70-R16 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders OME J's front OME Heavies Rear ProComp 9000 shocks Custom built Rear bumper & sliders http://forum.ih8mud.com/tn-stlca/198...ml#post2927590 http://Schafer_Photography.photoshop.com

01-10-08, 01:53 PM	#4
Goode IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tennessee TLCA# 13958 Posts: 333	Looking Nice! What size materials are ya using? __________________ 1983 FJ60

01-10-08, 01:59 PM	#5
TN_LandCruiser IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN (Chattanooga) Posts: 402	Thanks...its been a learning experience. Bumper is 3/16" 4"x6", the slider is 3/16" 2"x3" and the slider arms are 2" 3x16. The wings will be 3/16" plate steel. __________________ 1992 FJ80 7 Pin CDL Mod 265/70-R16 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders OME J's front OME Heavies Rear ProComp 9000 shocks Custom built Rear bumper & sliders http://forum.ih8mud.com/tn-stlca/198...ml#post2927590 http://Schafer_Photography.photoshop.com


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01-10-08, 02:05 PM	#6
Goode IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tennessee TLCA# 13958 Posts: 333	Cool....that seems to be the route I wanna take. 3/16 with 2x2 outriggers.....I was thinking 2x4 for the slider......since ya got yours burned in......what are your thoughts on 2x4 vs 2x3? I would like to have a little bit sticking out to use as a step. Which of course could be handled by cutting longer outriggers. I know it's only 1" diff, but.... Just wanted to get your opinion. __________________ 1983 FJ60

01-10-08, 02:16 PM	#7
TN_LandCruiser IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN (Chattanooga) Posts: 402	I started with 2x4, but that chit is HEAVY (estimated, without outriggers, a 6' section of that weighed in around 60-75 lbs)....I was afraid gravity might wreak havoc on them over time and start to bend down. My whole slider now might weigh 55-60 lbs. IMO, the 2x3 is considerably lighter, still wide enough to support the weight of these beasts and my final product will have tubing for rubbing / steps... If you went with a thinner ga tube, then 2x4 might be fine...but I only had 3/16 to work with for the price it was being offered (FREE), so I had to compensate accordingly. __________________ 1992 FJ80 7 Pin CDL Mod 265/70-R16 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders OME J's front OME Heavies Rear ProComp 9000 shocks Custom built Rear bumper & sliders http://forum.ih8mud.com/tn-stlca/198...ml#post2927590 http://Schafer_Photography.photoshop.com

01-10-08, 02:24 PM	#8
Goode IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tennessee TLCA# 13958 Posts: 333	Good to know... Could you explain or show a pic on how the bumper attaches to the frame? I haven't figured out how to go about doing this yet. __________________ 1983 FJ60

01-10-08, 06:03 PM	#10
sk8salomon IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 706	looks good Steve! nice welds! does Todd know you have access to a welder? he was looking for one the other day. __________________ Running total of non-waving FJC drivers ......534 '85 FJ60 bone stock (the way i like it) '87 Ford Ocnorb with lots of redneck stuff & custom dented body panels

01-10-08, 08:29 PM	#11
Landcruizerdude IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Knoxville, TN TLCA# 9386 Posts: 24	The main thing is you're working in the garage with beer in your hand! Whatever happens.....don't spill the beer! One day I too will turn my 80 into a trail rig. Any plans to upgrade your suspension setup to account for the weight? __________________ '77 FJ40 Trail Rig '89 FJ62 Cream Puff '96 FZJ80 Daily Driver

01-10-08, 08:52 PM	#12
chattfj40 IH8MUD Reader Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chattanooga, TN TLCA# 4920 Posts: 511	those are nice welds!...Steve, Like Sean said above, I'd need access to a welder to weld up the sheet metal (.023 wire) on my half doors. Technically I'd like to get these done for the MLK run, but time is getting short and I'm gonna be out of town this w/e. Let me know if you might could help a brother out next week. If we can't get it done next week, maybe we could work it out in the next few weeks...beer's on me Let me know, Sean: I hope you got my Text in response to your voice mail...I got off work late that night and didn't want to risk waking up the fam... __________________ Please donate to the Rescue Tellico Fund and help save the Tellico OHV area --Todd Chattanooga, TN 1980 FJ40, H41/0rion, SOA, 38.5 TSL/SX, LF Beadlocks, Longs, Sag pwr steer w/ ram assist. TLCA#: 4920 STLCA Rescue Tellico Committee (SFWDA) And yep...I am White Trash

01-10-08, 09:32 PM	#14
chattfj40 IH8MUD Reader Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chattanooga, TN TLCA# 4920 Posts: 511	BTW, I just got back from my first trip to Aetna...in the dark and raining to help out Brian (fj60-Covent College), who in his infinite wisdom had decided to go wheeling this afternoon with a couple of buddies in one truck...Doh! I had to throw the hard top and doors on and just got back ~30 mins ago...what fun it was Re: the Welder, I just need something to do sheetmetal...hopefully with gas __________________ Please donate to the Rescue Tellico Fund and help save the Tellico OHV area --Todd Chattanooga, TN 1980 FJ40, H41/0rion, SOA, 38.5 TSL/SX, LF Beadlocks, Longs, Sag pwr steer w/ ram assist. TLCA#: 4920 STLCA Rescue Tellico Committee (SFWDA) And yep...I am White Trash

01-14-08, 08:40 AM	#19
TN_LandCruiser IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN (Chattanooga) Posts: 402	Thanks guys...Im finding welding pretty easy...especially since I was laying on my back welding above my head. Got a nice big amber that popped off and landed on my coat just over my biceps, burned thru the coat, my shirt and my arm. Got a nice pencil eraser size 2nd degree burn on my arm now. Todd, Im hoping to find some time this week to get the other slider completed before MLK...so your welcome to come out and work on your doors. Just give me a call at 423-421-8168 __________________ 1992 FJ80 7 Pin CDL Mod 265/70-R16 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders OME J's front OME Heavies Rear ProComp 9000 shocks Custom built Rear bumper & sliders http://forum.ih8mud.com/tn-stlca/198...ml#post2927590 http://Schafer_Photography.photoshop.com

01-16-08, 09:47 AM	#20
TN_LandCruiser IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN (Chattanooga) Posts: 402	Well, thanks to Brandon and his kick a$$ welder, I got my DS slider done Monday night. Sanded, primed and painted it last night...its hanging in my garage curing. Hopefully will have some time tonight to get it welded on. Todd also came over Monday night and used my mini welder (75 amp) to work on his doors. My welder needs half marks between settings. 2 didnt penetrate and 3 burned thru...so it looked like a bunch of little boogers all the the length of the weld, but it is attached. He took pics... With a little (ok, a lot of) grinding and a little bondo, it will look professionally done when he is finished. __________________ 1992 FJ80 7 Pin CDL Mod 265/70-R16 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders OME J's front OME Heavies Rear ProComp 9000 shocks Custom built Rear bumper & sliders http://forum.ih8mud.com/tn-stlca/198...ml#post2927590 http://Schafer_Photography.photoshop.com

01-17-08, 09:25 AM	#21
TN_LandCruiser IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN (Chattanooga) Posts: 402	DS Slider is done...pics attached... Attached Images __________________ 1992 FJ80 7 Pin CDL Mod 265/70-R16 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders OME J's front OME Heavies Rear ProComp 9000 shocks Custom built Rear bumper & sliders http://forum.ih8mud.com/tn-stlca/198...ml#post2927590 http://Schafer_Photography.photoshop.com Last edited by TN_LandCruiser; 03-25-08 at 09:37 AM.