Johnson Valley is threattened.. (The Hammers)

[Mace]

A lot of you do not venture to the more hardcore areas that often but one of the OHV meccas is actually in Danger.

Johnson Valley, home of the Hammer trails is possibly going to be taken over by the US Marines

USMC plans to take over Major Portions of Johnson Valley - NAXJA Forums -::- North American XJ Association
JOHNSON VALLEY@USMC - District 37 Message Board

The Document
http://www.district37ama.org/forums/...5&d=1204511827


And to find your local representative.
https://forms.house.gov/wyr/welcome.shtml

[Mace]

Fixed

[Mace]

Cut and paste from Pirate

Below is a list of members of the House Committee on Armed Services. These are the key congressional representatives that need to hear that you are opposed to Marine Corps encroachment in the Johnson Valley and Stoddard Wells Off Highway Vehicle Recreation Areas managed by the Bureau of Land Management in the southern California desert.

Letters and faxes can be sent to the House Committee on Armed Services address.

If one of the House Members is your elected representative, their wab site link is provided. Please go to their web page and leave them a message.

Talking points:

The recent Western Mojave Resource Management Plan identifies Johnson Valley and Stoddard Wells as recreation areas. There are no other options for that type of recreation in the southern California desert as all other areas have been designated wilderness or military reserve and off-limits to the public.

The loss of recreation would have a significant economic impact on the surrounding rural communities; an impact that would not be replaced by military activity.

The proposal calls for acquisition of private lands. That acquisition would remove private lands from the local property tax base causing serious economic impact in the surrounding rural communities; an impact that is not mitigated by increased government support to the local economy.

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Committee on Armed Services
2120 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515

Phone: (202) 225-4151
Fax: (202) 225-9077

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Ike Skelton, Missouri, Chairman
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Duncan Hunter, California, Ranking Member
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John Spratt, South Carolina
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Jim Saxton, New Jersey
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Solomon P. Ortiz, Texas
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John M. McHugh, New York
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Gene Taylor, Mississippi
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Terry Everett, Alabama
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Neil Abercrombie, Hawaii
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Roscoe G. Bartlett, Maryland
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Silvestre Reyes, Texas
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Buck McKeon, California
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Mac Thornberry, Texas
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Adam Smith, Washington
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Walter B. Jones, North Carolina
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Loretta Sanchez, California
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Robin Hayes, North Carolina
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Mike McIntyre, North Carolina
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W. Todd Akin, Missouri
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Ellen O. Tauscher, California
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J. Randy Forbes, Virginia
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Robert A. Brady, Pennsylvania
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Jeff Miller, Florida
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Robert Andrews, New Jersey
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Joe Wilson, South Carolina
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Susan A. Davis, California
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Frank A. LoBiondo, New Jersey
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Rick Larsen, Washington
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Tom Cole, Oklahoma
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Jim Cooper, Tennessee
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Rob Bishop, Utah
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Jim Marshall, Georgia
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Michael Turner, Ohio
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John Kline, Minnesota
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Mark Udall, Colorado
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Candice S. Miller, Michigan
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Dan Boren, Oklahoma
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Phil Gingrey, Georgia
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Brad Ellsworth, Indiana
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Mike Rogers, Alabama
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Nancy Boyda, Kansas
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Trent Franks, Arizona
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Patrick Murphy, Pennsylvania
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Bill Shuster, Pennsylvania
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Hank Johnson, Georgia
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Thelma Drake, Virginia
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Carol Shea-Porter, New Hampshire
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Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Washington
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Joe Courtney, Connecticut
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Michael Conaway, Texas
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David Loebsack, Iowa
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Geoff Davis, Kentucky
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Kirsten Gillibrand, New York
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Doug Lamborn, Colorado
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Joe Sestak, Pennsylvania
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Gabrielle Giffords, Arizona
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Niki Tsongas, Massachusetts


Elijah Cummings, Maryland
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Kendrick Meek, Florida
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Kathy Castor, Florida
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[Trollhole]

Mace I have no problem writing my congressman. You provided a link above. Thank you. But what do you want me to tell him? Anything specific? Is there any document numbers or anything they can relate too? I'm sure they get lot's of request from all kinds of people all day long. I just want to make sure I get the most bang for my clubs buck when we write these letter and send these emails. That way the same topic or number is in his and his peoples mind when this comes up for a vote.

[Mace]

THis is the link to the actual document.
http://www.district37ama.org/forums/...5&d=1204511827


Writing to your congressman as a concerned wheeler that might go to the hammers one day is helpful.

And writing to the Cali congressmen stating that you have a trip planned to the Hammers, or hope that some day you will be able to wheel there is good as well.

From what I understand there are other options out there for the expansion of that base. Hopefully they will go that route..

As I have more info I'll post it.

[Mace]

More info
Edit, the link did not work. So I have no absolute verification that this is true. I am trying to get a link to the actual story.


Corps considers expanding combat center


By Gidget Fuentes - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Aug 6, 2007 13:18:46 EDT
OCEANSIDE, Calif. — The Marine Corps’ largest training base just might be getting bigger.
Officials want to expand the Corps’ 935-square-mile desert training area near Twentynine Palms, Calif., so it’s large enough to support the full scale of combat training as the service grows by more than 20,000 Marines.
The service recently got the green light from the Pentagon to move ahead with a study of possible land purchases near the Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center, a spokeswoman confirmed.
“During the study, we will be analyzing land near the boundaries of the combat center for possible acquisition, as well as looking into any airspace requirements that may be needed to support training in the respective area,” Capt. Amy Malugani, a Marine spokeswoman at the Pentagon, said Tuesday in a response to questions from Marine Corps Times.
Under orders to expand the Corps to 202,000 Marines by 2011, top leaders say they also need to push out the center’s physical boundaries to accommodate the combat training requirements for those leathernecks.
The Marine Corps is potentially eyeing public lands near the combat center that are managed by the federal government, including the Bureau of Land Management, which oversees a patchwork of parcels across California’s vast desert.
“The additional land would afford the combat center the ability to accommodate the growing force, providing important training opportunities,” Malugani added.
“It is imperative that Marines receive the most realistic training before deploying into a combat environment which demands split-second life-or-death decisions,” Malugani said. An expansion “would allow Marines to ‘train as they fight’ at a large-scale Marine air-ground task-force level. This critical training will push Marines to their physical, mental and emotional limits, ultimately saving lives on the battlefield.”
The Corps’ first step is to conduct an environmental assessment and a more detailed environmental impact statement. Both processes, required under the National Environmental Policy Act, “will involve a great deal of input from the local community,” Malugani said.
Environmental issues

The Mojave Desert is dotted with off-highway vehicle areas managed by BLM, including Johnson Valley, along the west border of the combat center. The areas north and east of the combat center are patchworks of open space parcels and several desert wildlife management areas.
Any expansion plans likely will draw protest from conservationists who have fought to protect the habitat of the desert tortoise, listed as a threatened species, from off-road recreational uses and development, including an ongoing expansion of the Army’s National Training Center at Fort Irwin, north of Barstow.
“Things aren’t looking good for the desert tortoise,” said Ileene Anderson, a biologist with the Center for Biological Diversity, an environmental group based in Tucson, Ariz.
Anderson, who had not seen specifics about the Corps’ expansion plans, said she was concerned about the possible impact on the tortoise’s health, noting that ongoing monitoring programs have raised concerns about disease.
“We’ve seen just die-off sweeps across the Mojave,” she said.
The extent of environmental impact will hinge on what specific parcels the Corps wants to use. “I don’t know how much land they would absorb and for what purpose they would be using it for,” said Lisa Belenky, a staff attorney for the Center for Biological Diversity.
Development in the desert region threatens the protection of existing federal lands designated as wilderness or desert wildlife management areas and places more and more homes closer to military training areas, Belenky said. “You can see and hear the bombing in the evening,” she said, noting more home construction in places including Joshua Tree, Wonder Valley and Twentynine Palms.
“The sprawl development is just pushing right up” to the base boundaries.
Room to stretch

The additional space is expected to give Marines — specifically, air-ground task forces as large as brigade-size — the room to stretch their forces as they train on the center’s ranges.
The combat center’s 598,400 acres — nearly five times the size of Camp Pendleton, Calif. — cover desert flats and mountains, making the center one of the premier training sites for desert warfare. But most of that acreage is not available for training.
“To date, only 40 percent of the combat center is available for maneuver training,” Malugani said. “The remaining 60 percent of the land is self-imposed safety buffer zones, protected environmental and cultural resource areas and not easily accessible mountainous terrain.”
For 54 years, tens of thousands of leathernecks have fought mock tank wars and combined-arms battles and trained on the center’s ranges, including rifle and other weapons, urban warfare and vast live-fire operating and maneuver ranges.
In recent years, the center has seen a major growth spurt, with the construction and expansion of training ranges designed for convoy and urban operations, as well as mock Iraqi or Middle Eastern towns, villages and truck stops. Training at the center, which hosts exercises including the monthly “Mojave Viper” pre-deployment workups, has been constant as ground combat units prepare for deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.
In 2001, and again in 2002, several thousand Marines took to the Southern California deserts in “Desert Scimitar” exercises in which they maneuvered from the combat center in 600 combat vehicles through Riverside, Imperial and San Bernardino counties and crossed the Colorado River on makeshift bridges. The exercises served as a precursor to 1st Marine Division’s invasion of Iraq in 2003.
The expansion plan, part of the Marine Corps’ training capability modernization program, has been approved by the Marine Corps Requirements Oversight Committee and the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Under the NEPA process, several public hearings would be scheduled to get feedback on the Corps’ initial proposals, which would include proposed purchase of specific land parcels, as well as the alternative of no expansion.

[Jomama]

Mace, is the area actively managed by BLM?

[Mace]

yes

Barstow Field Office, Bureau of Land Management, California

[calstyl2]

Originally Posted by Jomama

Mace, is the area actively managed by BLM?

The Hammers area, Known as Johnson Valley is activly managed by BLM with some State Parks OHV funds added.

[Jomama]

Just a random idea.... but another area you could potentially express your support would be letters or something to the field offices? I cant imagine this would bode well for the livelyhood of the rangers & staff who work in that area. Worth asking how they could be assisted by the public beyond writing legislators..

[petescoffee]

Important Announcement! Rally For The Hammers!

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Cross-posted from the JV forum:

Announcing the first ever, Pirate4x4.com: VIRTUAL RALLY FOR THE HAMMERS

Please read the following very carefully!

We need your help to pull this off and make it effective. Any and all input is greatly appreciated and will be carefully listened to.

First, let me be VERY clear. It does not look good for the Hammers.

John Stewart for Cal4Wheel is working extremely hard on this with several other people and organizations, but they cannot do it all alone. Like never before, the OHV community needs to develop a grass-roots effort to show that we have strength in numbers and that we care about our trails being taken away from us.

Here is the goal:

In a four hour time frame pack Pirate with so many people the server fries and Pirate crashes. (OK, just kidding…but that would sound awesome on a press release! LOL!)

All politicians care about is numbers. If you have ever taken a poly-sci class you may remember hearing that 1 letter from a person is seen as roughly equaling 300 votes. The greatest number of users ever logged into Pirate was 3,305 on 2/11/2008. The goal is to CRUSH that number and have all of those people post up in the Rally thread what the Hammers mean to them and to the OHV community.

When the rally is over, we will lock the thread and fab-up ANOTHER press release to the powers that be, showing how many people attended this virtual rally, how many posts there were, and invite them to read the thread and our concerns if they did not attend.

Here is the Plan:

1. We will issue a press release this Friday to politicians, media outlets, companies etc. announcing a virtual rally on Pirate4x4.com and invite them to come.


2. Lance will do a mass e-mail to ALL PBB members this Friday asking them to participate in the rally from 2-6 by posting their concerns in the thread.

3. We will come up with “sample” post to put in the thread to give people an idea of what we are looking for. (post them here please) Even people that have NEVER been to the Hammers need to post their concerns. This is all about showing how many of us there are and that we have a VOICE as a community.


4. The Rally will be on WEDNESDAY MARCH 12th from 2 to 6 pm Pacific Standard time.

5. Mustard Dog will start the “Rally” thread at 2pm that day. As of now, it will be in chit-chat, but we may be able to have it in all forums at once.

6. In the thread people will post their concerns about our trails being taken away, why the Hammers should remain open, pictures of them and their FAMILIES in the Hammers (appropriate ones!), etc. etc. People are encouraged to post multiple times.

ALL CHIT-CHAT BULLSHIT AND INAPPRIOPRATE POSTS WILL BE DELETED! We plan on having important people read this thread. If we are not on our best behavior, the OHV community will look bad.

7. As stated above, after the rally another press-release will be issued showing the number of people attending the rally, the number of posts, data on how fast the thread grew etc… We will also invite those in power that did not attend to read the thread.

What I am asking from all of you:

1. PLEASE: Get the word out! E-mail everyone you know, put something about it in your sig-line, go to other boards and sites and announce the rally, send out bulletins on Myspace etc. etc.

2. Write sample “posts” for people to see and post them here. Hopefully, they can type something up over the weekend and just cut and paste it on the day of the Rally.


Will this Rally save the Hammers? I do not know. But if it shows politicians and land-managers that we are a force to reckon with because of our numbers, it may make them think twice.

Why am I doing this if I have never been to the Hammers? During the ELDO fiasco last summer, I asked for help in chit-chat. People asked me, “Why should we help you guys? Where were YOU when OUR trails were being closed?” After I though about it, they were right. Where was I? It seems that we only fight for our own backyards. Not anymore. I promised the PBB in that thread I would fight route closures EVERYWHERE. So I am.

In a few, I will post up what I plan to post in the rally thread on the 12th.

A huge thanks to John Stewart, Del Albright, Randy Burelson, Cal4, BRC, and the other “Land-use” guys for their help, guidance and support. Many of them are working VERY hard behind the scenes on this issue.

I would also like to thank Lance and Camo for letting us do this on their site.

For all of those that e-mailed and PM’ed me on this: A huge thanks for your input and help. I am asking you to all step up in leadership roles in this.

I am sure there are people I forgot to thank. I am sorry….it’s been a long day already! LOL!!


It’s AWN like Donkey KONG!

GET IT!

Kurt Schneider

The Friends of Eldorado National Forest.
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VIRTUAL RALLY FOR THE HAMMER TRAILS IN JOHNSON VALLEY ON PBB!! Be there and post POSITIVE COMMENTS!!

MARCH 12th 2-6 pm Pacific standard time!

[2ndGenToyotaFan]

That's a cool idea, I'll be there with bells on.

[Mace]

Thanks Guys!!!

[Mace]

BUMP, the Rally is TODAY!!!

[FJTank]

The Rally is on right now, from 2pm to 6pm PST.. Post up people, I've already got post #178.

OFFICIAL Johnson Valley "Virtual Protest" Thread! - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board

[FJTank]

About an hour and a half until close, speak up people! Even if you don't like the Pirate board, support your lands like they are! Let your voice be heard!