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10-15-09, 07:21 AM
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Have Truck, Will Travel
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 740
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TLCA Personal Info for Advertising
Earlier this week I received a solicitation to buy an FJ55 in Illinois. Since I don't know anyone from that state I was curious how they acquired my home address. So, I'm reminded once again to bring up the issue of personal information in the TLCA database.
DO NOT USE MY PERSONAL INFO FOR MARKETING!
I make no accusations and I'm not mad at anyone. I don't know how this guy got my address and I really don't care. However, in case anyone decides the TLCA database is available for distribution, the answer is no. TLCA has no right to use personal information for marketing unless TLCA receives permission from each member.
I trust the current board is aware that releasing personal information is a crime unless the club has permission from the member.
Thanks, lurk mode back on.
Happy Trails! N
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Nick Stone
81 BJ42 "BJ"
82 FJ60 "Sparrow"
Lone Star Land Cruisers TLCA #8070
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10-15-09, 07:46 AM
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That's just Bull Butter!
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Iowa
Posts: 1,249
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Nick,
It came from Toyota Trails. Remember being a BOD member? Members have that info. We have not and will NEVER sell that information to anyone. I received it as well as I'm guessing everyone that had an address in the TT that they were using.
-Art
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10-15-09, 07:52 AM
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Admin
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Appleton, WI
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I got the same solicitation...this is the 2nd time in a few months that I recall...
not sure where they are gleaning the info from, but they are thorough
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Brian 'woody' Swearingen
Owner, IH8MUD.com
Owner, ROCKCRAWLER.com
- 1974 FJ40 'The Raisin' - 39" Pitbull Maddogs, 17x9 TrailReadys, 30-spline Longfields, SOA - 1/4 ellip, Ultimate Air, MobiArc, Optima RedTop
- 1996 FZJ80 'Gretchen' - MetalTech sliders, MetalTech tube front, MileMarker V10 MiFi, OME lift, IPOR rear & skid, 4x4Labs swings, INTI rack, dual Optima RedTops, 285 TreadWright tires, Ultimate Air, Raingler Barrier
- 2009 buggy....designing... RockCrusher60's
- 2003 2500HD Duramax - Edge/Juice/Attitude, 285 Hankook DynaPro ATM, KYB MonoMax, 4" exhaust
- 2008 32' ABU Gooseneck car hauler, 2000 Damon Hornet M-32F, 1997 14' car hauler
Forum Questions? Click Here! .. .. .. .. 2009 IH8MUD Wheelin Schedule!
'America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.' Abraham Lincoln
'Everyone wants to save the porpoises, but no one cares about the tuna'
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10-15-09, 07:53 AM
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Admin
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Appleton, WI
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I got the same solicitation...this is the 2nd time in a few months that I recall...
not sure where they are gleaning the info from, but they are thorough
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Brian 'woody' Swearingen
Owner, IH8MUD.com
Owner, ROCKCRAWLER.com
- 1974 FJ40 'The Raisin' - 39" Pitbull Maddogs, 17x9 TrailReadys, 30-spline Longfields, SOA - 1/4 ellip, Ultimate Air, MobiArc, Optima RedTop
- 1996 FZJ80 'Gretchen' - MetalTech sliders, MetalTech tube front, MileMarker V10 MiFi, OME lift, IPOR rear & skid, 4x4Labs swings, INTI rack, dual Optima RedTops, 285 TreadWright tires, Ultimate Air, Raingler Barrier
- 2009 buggy....designing... RockCrusher60's
- 2003 2500HD Duramax - Edge/Juice/Attitude, 285 Hankook DynaPro ATM, KYB MonoMax, 4" exhaust
- 2008 32' ABU Gooseneck car hauler, 2000 Damon Hornet M-32F, 1997 14' car hauler
Forum Questions? Click Here! .. .. .. .. 2009 IH8MUD Wheelin Schedule!
'America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.' Abraham Lincoln
'Everyone wants to save the porpoises, but no one cares about the tuna'
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10-15-09, 08:15 AM
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Have Truck, Will Travel
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 740
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Thanks Art!
I'm reassured. Like you, I have nothing against individuals trying to find good homes for trucks and parts.... but, I would be really PO'd if our info went to spammers.
Thanks again,
Nick
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Originally Posted by packman73
Nick,
It came from Toyota Trails. Remember being a BOD member? Members have that info. We have not and will NEVER sell that information to anyone. I received it as well as I'm guessing everyone that had an address in the TT that they were using.
-Art
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81 BJ42 "BJ"
82 FJ60 "Sparrow"
Lone Star Land Cruisers TLCA #8070
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10-15-09, 12:15 PM
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Forum Regular
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Missouri
TLCA# 5314, TLCA Administrator
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Yup I got it too. And since I have the DB, I know they didn't get the info from that. That DB is heavily protected by me & I don't provide any info from it unless a TLCA member (verified) contacts me looking for contact info. That is agreed upon on the application.
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TLCA Admin - #5314
Rock is dead. Long live paper & scissors.
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10-15-09, 01:06 PM
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Admin
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Appleton, WI
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so if this person is a TLCA member and contacted you with interest in starting a club, what stops them from using the addresses for other purposes?
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Brian 'woody' Swearingen
Owner, IH8MUD.com
Owner, ROCKCRAWLER.com
- 1974 FJ40 'The Raisin' - 39" Pitbull Maddogs, 17x9 TrailReadys, 30-spline Longfields, SOA - 1/4 ellip, Ultimate Air, MobiArc, Optima RedTop
- 1996 FZJ80 'Gretchen' - MetalTech sliders, MetalTech tube front, MileMarker V10 MiFi, OME lift, IPOR rear & skid, 4x4Labs swings, INTI rack, dual Optima RedTops, 285 TreadWright tires, Ultimate Air, Raingler Barrier
- 2009 buggy....designing... RockCrusher60's
- 2003 2500HD Duramax - Edge/Juice/Attitude, 285 Hankook DynaPro ATM, KYB MonoMax, 4" exhaust
- 2008 32' ABU Gooseneck car hauler, 2000 Damon Hornet M-32F, 1997 14' car hauler
Forum Questions? Click Here! .. .. .. .. 2009 IH8MUD Wheelin Schedule!
'America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.' Abraham Lincoln
'Everyone wants to save the porpoises, but no one cares about the tuna'
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10-15-09, 01:08 PM
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That's just Bull Butter!
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Iowa
Posts: 1,249
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woody
so if this person is a TLCA member and contacted you with interest in starting a club, what stops them from using the addresses for other purposes?
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Nada thing. And what prevents anyone from going to whois.net and pulling a mailing address for a URL.
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10-15-09, 01:11 PM
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Site Addict
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Springfield, Mo
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ALL of your personal info is on the 2nd page of every Toyota Trails magazine I can find at my house, but your first responce is to blast TLCA in a semi public forum and threaten legal action. Who are you really mad at?
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Originally Posted by Green Lantern
Earlier this week I received a solicitation to buy an FJ55 in Illinois. Since I don't know anyone from that state I was curious how they acquired my home address. So, I'm reminded once again to bring up the issue of personal information in the TLCA database.
DO NOT USE MY PERSONAL INFO FOR MARKETING!
I make no accusations and I'm not mad at anyone. I don't know how this guy got my address and I really don't care. However, in case anyone decides the TLCA database is available for distribution, the answer is no. TLCA has no right to use personal information for marketing unless TLCA receives permission from each member.
I trust the current board is aware that releasing personal information is a crime unless the club has permission from the member.
Thanks, lurk mode back on.
Happy Trails! N
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84 FJ 60 / SROR sides and rear / beauty marks from RR, FN, & LSCR / Free bumper from GCC and Locker from LSCR/
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10-15-09, 01:17 PM
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10-15-09, 01:30 PM
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Admin
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Appleton, WI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by packman73
Nada thing. And what prevents anyone from going to whois.net and pulling a mailing address for a URL.
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that was kinda my point  Doesn't take a lotta persistence to gather information
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Brian 'woody' Swearingen
Owner, IH8MUD.com
Owner, ROCKCRAWLER.com
- 1974 FJ40 'The Raisin' - 39" Pitbull Maddogs, 17x9 TrailReadys, 30-spline Longfields, SOA - 1/4 ellip, Ultimate Air, MobiArc, Optima RedTop
- 1996 FZJ80 'Gretchen' - MetalTech sliders, MetalTech tube front, MileMarker V10 MiFi, OME lift, IPOR rear & skid, 4x4Labs swings, INTI rack, dual Optima RedTops, 285 TreadWright tires, Ultimate Air, Raingler Barrier
- 2009 buggy....designing... RockCrusher60's
- 2003 2500HD Duramax - Edge/Juice/Attitude, 285 Hankook DynaPro ATM, KYB MonoMax, 4" exhaust
- 2008 32' ABU Gooseneck car hauler, 2000 Damon Hornet M-32F, 1997 14' car hauler
Forum Questions? Click Here! .. .. .. .. 2009 IH8MUD Wheelin Schedule!
'America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.' Abraham Lincoln
'Everyone wants to save the porpoises, but no one cares about the tuna'
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10-15-09, 01:46 PM
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Site Addict
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REKCUT
ALL of your personal info is on the 2nd page of every Toyota Trails magazine I can find at my house, but your first responce is to blast TLCA in a semi public forum and threaten legal action. Who are you really mad at?
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Oh, this should be entertaining
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10-15-09, 02:18 PM
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Forum Regular
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Missouri
TLCA# 5314, TLCA Administrator
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To be clear, no TLCA member has ever contacted me with anything more than a request for their chapter's list or a list of members in their zip code in the hopes of starting a chapter. If you read the membership application, it says that your info can be given to other TLCA members.
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Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.
TLCA Admin - #5314
Rock is dead. Long live paper & scissors.
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10-15-09, 02:51 PM
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Have Truck, Will Travel
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 740
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No point in feeding trolls.
My uncle used to remind me what the speed limit was whenever I drove beyond the speed limit. He wasn't threatening me with legal action, just reminding me of the law.
I think I made my point.
Happy Trails! N
Quote:
Originally Posted by wanabecruisen
Oh, this should be entertaining 
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Nick Stone
81 BJ42 "BJ"
82 FJ60 "Sparrow"
Lone Star Land Cruisers TLCA #8070
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10-15-09, 03:27 PM
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Site Addict
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Lantern
No point in feeding trolls.
My uncle used to remind me what the speed limit was whenever I drove beyond the speed limit. He wasn't threatening me with legal action, just reminding me of the law.
I think I made my point.
Happy Trails! N
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Buzz Kill
Nick, you are right of course. Once again I am reminded of how much I can learn from you Sir.
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10-16-09, 08:05 AM
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CottonLand Cruisers
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brandon, MS
Posts: 4,320
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I just got a call yesterday from a woman in SC trying to sell a really clean 40. She said that her husband was too sick to sell it. She sent pics and everything. Might be real but I thought it was fishy. She got my name and number from some info on the Southern Cruiser Crawl. I pointed her toward e-bay and the classified here on MUD.
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CottonLand Cruisers
Whitetrash of the Elwood Chapter
I PRINT T-SHIRTS!
78 FJ40 4" Skyjackers, 35" MTR's, Detroit, Metal Tech cage, 8274, Choctaw Sliders, Mini truck P/S, 2F!!
TLCA #3164
USAF - POL 1987 - ?
"Caliente Maldito"
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10-16-09, 11:58 AM
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THC
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Mauldin, SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Metal Spice
To be clear, no TLCA member has ever contacted me with anything more than a request for their chapter's list or a list of members in their zip code in the hopes of starting a chapter. If you read the membership application, it says that your info can be given to other TLCA members.
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And I thank you and TLCA for doing that. That's how we got another UC chapter up and going. It really can help to bring in new members into the local clubs.
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10-16-09, 05:07 PM
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250+ Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 350
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To reiterate what has been posted above, All elected officers have their personal info printed in Toyota Trails. I get calls and emails regularly for things like this. It goes with the territory of being a TLCA officer, past or present.
Happy cruisin'!
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Jeff Zepp
Kittredge CO USA
1971 & 1976 FJ40s, 1978 FJ45
Rising Sun 4WD Club, TLCA #4063, TLCA President
Rzeppa.org
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10-17-09, 07:49 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rzeppa
To reiterate what has been posted above, All elected officers have their personal info printed in Toyota Trails. I get calls and emails regularly for things like this. It goes with the territory of being a TLCA officer, past or present.
Happy cruisin'!
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Don't forget that club contact info is printed as well.
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