Lose The Lexus Or Lose My Membership !!!!!!!!

[cruiseroutfit]

Originally Posted by orangefj45

that's one the most ignorant statements i've read on this board!
we need everybody, and we're all here to express our opinions. so frank's not cool with having a lexus on the cover. big fing deal...

I cordially beg to differ...

We DO NOT need members like Frank... Never have, never will!

I just spent a couple minutes checking out posts he has made on his forums. Every one included slanderous, derogatory comments aimed towards TLCA officers, including specific names. Many of them include lewd comments made viewable to the public.

So PLEASE..... tell me why and organization needs this blemish on their membership lists???

In case you need a reminder... here are some of Franks sincere words... quoted exactly as written from his forum:

"...drop emails to these fools and let them know THEY SCREWED THE POOCH!!!!!"

"Let's call the association the TOYOTA LAND CRUISER-LIKE ASSOCIATION"





LOSE FRANK OR LOSE ME

[sleeoffroad]

Originally Posted by cruiseroutfit

So Grogan sees it as an opportunity to get a free trip and kindle a relationship with ARB and in return for their expenditures"

Funny thing that he does not even know is that the trip was not free to anyone by a long shot.

Read his posts, and please Todd, do a cover of the Monster45 with ugly ass cow catcher so that I can call it a piece of shit! I would even start a forum on my site just to do that.

It is amazing that he has the time to write all those rants on his own site but does not get on here and reply to any posts! Makes me thinks of those crazy people at Speakers Corner in London.

[cruiseroutfit]

Originally Posted by sleeoffroad

...I can call it a piece of shit! I would even start a forum on my site just to do that. ....

I'll start one too...

[Junk]

Except cornhole boy doesn't see much traffic on his lil site. He's obviously just a wannabee and feels the need to create a fuss so someone realizes he exists, but he doesn't. He's just a fucking troll.

[Landpimp]

holly shit! he is a bigger neaderfawkhead then I thought..........he pisses on Woody then comes to Woody's site to bitch about TLCA................what a FAWK!

and Nolen is not a pimp...........I am

I think in less than a week Frankasshat has made more ememys than most make in a 10 lifetimes.........

where does this ass monkey live?

Originally Posted by cruiseroutfit

Did some checking on his site... he is a real hater... Check out all the shit this guy had to talk... What a stain...

"I have noticed that another big cruiser website has formed a limited liability company (LLC) and has sold out their website to the banner nazis..... I promise you here and now you will never see banners on this website that I have control over"

Even attacks at personal people (kick his ass Nolen!!!)

"Problem is the only thing being screwed is not just the pooch but the people who pay the dues.... Aside from the Lexus scandal, take a good look at the article by Nolen Grogan. His motivation is clearly spelled out in the bold faced paragraph on Page 5 of the September/October issue of Toyota Trails. He is invited to attend a six day off-road adventure by the large Australian firm ARB and their USA division. So Grogan sees it as an opportunity to get a free trip and kindle a relationship with ARB and in return for their expenditures"

"The streets have a name for this kind of YOU DO ME AND I DO YOU arrangement... It's called pimping. TLCA has pimped all its members this month in the coveted Toyota Trails and they are probably already pimping for next issue. Unless you help to stop them."

"they have gone too far this time. They are going down the pimp daddy road of offroad advertising. If this were a LEXUS club or H2 club, fine. But to do this to a Landcruiser club is sacreligeous. If goes against everything the Landcruiser lifestyle stands for."

"...WITH ALL THE POOCH SCREWING GOING ON IN THE TLCA I MUST BE IN AMSTERDAM."

"Bottom line, ya may as well put a f*ckin flattie on the next cover of TLCA. Then watch your memberships scatter like lemmings at the sight of a fox."

And there is tons more... lets make a roadtrip...

[78crzr]

Nice First Post There Frank. Funny Thing - I Ran Across A Picture Of You On The Web...time To Pull Your Head Out!!!!

[nakman]

OMFG... here I was thinking this thread was done.. and it has risen (or sunk)to a whole new level.

[bad_religion_au]

so where is this asshats reply... recon he didn't know lexii were yota's, considering he lumped them with H2's

[4alarm]

I've been lurking for a while now. So this is my first post:

After reading this thread I'm going over to TLCA right now to start my membership. Thanks Monster 45

[Romer]

Originally Posted by Landpimp

fixed it for ya

Thanks John. I wasn't a Lexus owner when I wrote it, but I am now. Got home with it about 3 AM

[nakman]

congrats on the new rig, Ken, can't wait to see it.

if my scoring is correct, this thread has resulted in at least 3 new TLCA members and at least 1 new Lexus owner now.

How about the rest of you lurkers, where do you stand? what a great reason to join the TLCA.

[SpaceGhost]

More Lexus owners should join the growing number of members. I for one welcome them! My 2000 UZJ100 is a carbon copy of the Lexus, minus some additional fluff I didn't wanna pay for!

I'm wondering what Toyota would think about us if we elected to NOT include one of their succesful vehicles from our membership ranks?

[informationjunky]

Originally Posted by Exiled

Jeez, who pissed in this guy's Wheaties?

I've been a TLCA member for the better part of a decade, I was part of the team that took Toyota Trails from B/W to color publishing, and while this may not be my favorite cover, I don't have *ANY* problem with an LX470 on the cover, a twist in Toyota's marketing approach to the US market doesn't make this "Lexus" any less of a Land Cruiser than a Brazilian Bandeirante. The article by Grogan was very interesting, the photos inside cool, the tech content as good as always, and if I'm allowed to give a compliment, the current Toyota Trails editorial team, including Todd Kaderabek as Editor and Chris Hatfield in Advertising, have done a KILLER job with the magazine, not only picking up where the previous staff left it but taking it up a notch as well.

Monster45, there is a serious war going on, we are in a controversial election year, it's the worst hurricane season in a decade and one of the Olsen twins isn't eating as much as the other one, don't you have anything better to worry about than TT's cover shot?

Cheers!

Henry Cubillan
TLCA #4080

I remember when 60's and 62's were considered soccer mom trucks and then this guy from Venezuela change the thought process, (hint "circle of the wagons") any one know what happended to the guy in Alaska who ran a sprung over 60 with 35's ??? Jack?

Then came the 80's they couldn't possibly be trail rigs...they had sun roofs and leather. But of course some crazy guy painted one yellow and the rest is history.

So naturally LX470's cant possibly be trial worthy....or can they?

[theferg]

<popcorn>

Wow, what an adventure that was reading through all these posts here and elsewhere and then that guy's site....

I hesitate to respond, and I hate to keep this kind of stuff going, but I just have to. I love the Toyota Trails publication and the Toyota Land Cruiser extended community. And I know the guys/gals that work on it work their asses off to get me my precious mag. So I applaud all the hard work--my hat's off to all those working on it!

I know that we are all different and are all free to voice our opinions, so here's mine: As to Frank and the Lexus...man, what an idiot! I'm sorry, I don't agree with that jack-ass one bit. Look at his fawking Cruiser! Pretty much the only thing Cruiser about it is the body. Now, I'm not a Cruiser purist, but I prefer my Cruiser to be as much Toyota as possible, but I don't care what the fawk else anyone else has under their hood or frame or wherever else, but to be so adamant as to try and call people to arms (so-to-speak) against TLCA and the "suits" runnin' it because there is a Lexus on the cover and somebody wrote an article or two about it, is silly in itself. And then to be building a monster 45 out of a Chevy truck and calling it a Cruiser and a Lexus not a cruiser, is just plain fawking ludacrous. That fawking Lexus is like 500% more Cruiser than that fawking monster 45. What the hell is this guy thinking? I personally would love to be wheelin' that Lexus. I guarantee it would out-wheel my 60...but maybe my 60 is not a "real" Land Cruiser either...?

And that comment about regretting that Land Cruisers were made in Japan...holy fucking shit. Now, I love America as much as the next guy, and I am thankful to live in this great, free land, but that statement there is going a bit too far. It's Americans like you that give the rest of us Americans a bad rep...thinking that America and Americans are so much better than everyone and everthing else--just because you're an American. Ya the U.S. happens to be a very big player in world powers, but we can't let that go to our heads. We are not better than other people just because we are Americans. You arrogant, pompus, racist piece of shit...fuck off. There are decent people all around the world, and there are douchebags all around the world (like you). I don't get it. If you're so proud of America and American Engineering, then why the fuck do you have a Cruiser? Oh wait, that's right, your Cruiser is like 99% Chevy... So how 'bout a BMW or Mercedes? If you had one of those, would your only regret be that they were made in Germany? I personally am a proponent of diversity in everything around us--that's how advancements are discovered and brought to life. You're a fucking doctor for shits sake. You think Americans came up with all the shit you use? Or maybe your only regret there is that those things invented and discovered elsewhere, were not discovered and invented in the US.

And WTF, did ARB do? I don't even get WTF he was trying to say there...? ARB has some GREAT aftermarket products for Land Cruisers. I'm glad to see their ads in Toyota Trails.

Anyway, I don't care who knows this guy and thinks he might be a great guy, but anybody that believes in what this guy does, can go drive whatever it is they drive right off a 400 fucking foot cliff. You and that Vintage scumbag.

I agree with those before who've said that the TLCA doesn't need this guy. I'll take the Lexus on the cover--or anywhere else in the mag--and ads from ARB over that guy ALL FUCKING DAY LONG.



Ben Ferguson
TLCA 12162

[tarbe]

He's serious? You gotta be kidding!

I thought he was just trying to be funny....

Do I need to sell my LX-450?

Shesh.....I didn't even get to install the Slee X-fer case skid plate or the SS brake lines :(

Oh well, I guess they were made for a Cruiser and wouldn't work on a Lexus anyway. LOL!

I wonder how those OME springs managed to fit??

[bad_religion_au]

Originally Posted by theferg

<popcorn>


And WTF, did ARB do? I don't even get WTF he was trying to say there...? ARB has some GREAT aftermarket products for Land Cruisers. I'm glad to see their ads in Toyota Trails.

maybe it's the fact that ARB is an australian company??? not american

[dd113]

I am glad I was on the road when this all started. I would be full of popcorn by now!

I guess I am one of the advertisers you mention. I know you think it sucks that I advertise and support TLCA and, god forbid, work on Lexi

Goodby Frank. Never thought much of you site and now I think even less of you.

[Brentbba]

This has got to be, by far, the most entertaining thread in this section of IH8MUD ever!

Todd, Nolan and all the others at TLCA and TT - Just keep up the excellent work and never, never stop thinking outside the box!

[phishtaco]

Originally Posted by Landpimp

asshat! go play with your 200K fj45...........

if you don't know a Lexus is a Land Cruiser.

back in the day folks said the same thing about the 80 series, which out of the box is prolly more capable then your 45

oh I noticed your nice link to everyones favorite LC vendor
http://www.landcruisaholics.com/links.html

I have no respect for anyone linked to VIntage..........so fawk off and die!


and if you drop off TLCA I will pay for the lost membership.........which IMOP is no loss at all

AFAIK and most everyone I know Todd is doing a GREAT job with TT........keep up the good work Todd

John H

It's kinda funny what #1 is on the LC commandments

http://landcruisaholics.com/10commandments/

[Romer]

It's interesting that he dropped this bomb and hasn't been back. He last logged in on the 16th at 1:34pm so he hasn't seen anything since post #7. He has this same thing on his site. He must be deleting posts off of his site he doesn't like. I doubt he is getting the reaction he expected.


This thread hs been entertaining, but it also shows the strong support for Todd, Tony and the rest of the hard workers at the TLCA. If nothing else, the TLCA should take this as a job well done that this many members are standing up and voicing their opinion and support.


Ken Romer

[Kaderabek]

Originally Posted by Romer

This thread hs been entertaining, but it also shows the strong support for Todd, Tony and the rest of the hard workers at the TLCA.

Seriously, this has meant a lot to me. It really is your magazine, and as such I care what you think of it. Thanks.

TJK

[Landpimp]

anyone notice the Lexus on the cover of Trails?

[woody]

Blasphemy!

[Gumby]

Bastids!

I think I'll put some Scion badges on my 40 and see if I can get on the cover.

[Romer]

Maybe we should change the name to the Toyota and Lexus Cruiser Assoc. They are all cruisers!


I am just kidding!

[Gumby]

Actually, I'm slightly embarassed that Americans need a Lexus branding. Is it because we can't tell quality until someone tells us it is, or are we gullible enough to buy the same thing for a higher price because of a marketing campaign or a trophy nameplate?