1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Known 2F problems?

Discussion in '40- & 55-Series Tech' started by fr8train, Aug 2, 2003.

  1. fr8train

    fr8train

    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2003
    Location:
    Maryland
    What are the most commonly known problems in the 2F? Is it possible to get a better flowing oil pump for them? Sorry for the newbie questions, I am a newbie :p
     
  2. axlechassis

    axlechassis

    Messages:
    237
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2003
    Location:
    Wasilla/Bangkok
    do you mean an F engine? There is an F engine which was known for oiling problems and the 2F was introduced I think somewhere in the 1975 production year to address the oiling issue. If you have an F engine problems are generaly solved with a chevy V8. Just kiding! Kind of. If you have an F engine the general consensus would be to loose it in favor of a massaged 2F or a chevy fuel injected V8. But there are still plenty of people nursing the old F engine along. Not a real bad engine but not an especialy good one either. The 2F is actually a great engine and of course so is the chevy V8. Does this help?
     
  3. fr8train

    fr8train

    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2003
    Location:
    Maryland
    yeah .I am putting a 383TBI in mine. I have a buddy who is falling inline with me and getting a FJ also. He wants to keep the factory drive line and run the 2F taht thte FJ is equip. with. How would he massage the 2F? Any specific companies you can list? Thanks for the info so far, it really does help.
     
  4. CruisinGA

    CruisinGA

    Messages:
    6,163
    Likes Received:
    8
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2003
    Location:
    Georgia Tech
    [quote author=axlechassis link=board=1;threadid=4073;start=0#msg30066 date=1059876757]But there are still plenty of people nursing the old F engine along. Not a real bad engine but not an especialy good one either. [/quote]
    Like me :D
    However, there is really no difference between the later F's and the 2F other than the larger displacement of the 2F. Its just the really early F's that unless you are restoring your cruiser to original specs, are best to be either upgraded or traded for a 2F or later F.
     
  5. CruisinGA

    CruisinGA

    Messages:
    6,163
    Likes Received:
    8
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2003
    Location:
    Georgia Tech
    [quote author=fr8train link=board=1;threadid=4073;start=0#msg30070 date=1059878532]
    yeah .I am putting a 383TBI in mine. I have a buddy who is falling inline with me and getting a FJ also. He wants to keep the factory drive line and run the 2F taht thte FJ is equip. with. How would he massage the 2F? Any specific companies you can list? Thanks for the info so far, it really does help.
    [/quote]
    My recommendation would be to run the 2F like it is until it needs a rebuild, and then go all out on it.
    Heres how he would go all out:
    TBI a la Mike Smythe: http://www.iei.net/~msmythe/TBI/tbi_info.htm
    HEI-check out tech section
    Bore block-check your local machine shop
    Get some good pistons
    High-performance cam
    exhaust headers-www.sor.com (most of the others leak, ie Man-a-fre)
    While we are on the topic of "massaging" a 2F-
    my uncle mentioned a company that would let you put 3 seperate 2 barrel carbs on the old Chevy 235 inline six, a derivative of the engine our F/2F engines are modelled after. I wonder if this would work on a f/2f? Three aisins would be pretty damn cool. Although this is more of a high-speed type mod, not a low end torque off-road mod, it would be cool regardless.
     
  6. fr8train

    fr8train

    Messages:
    100
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2003
    Location:
    Maryland
    Guys thanks for the great links and tips. tripple carb setup would be cool. one more question, since their arent any places like Jegs or summit avail for cruuiser parts, what is there?
     
  7. 73lndcrsr

    73lndcrsr SILVER Star

    Messages:
    744
    Likes Received:
    4
    Joined:
    May 28, 2002
  8. hammerhead

    hammerhead

    Messages:
    1,995
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2003
    Location:
    Central, Utah
    Wear out what you've got. You can rebuild it or replace it at a later date. In the mean time, see if you can arrange to take a test drive in one with a V8. You might like it. I know I could never go back.
     
  9. 78 One owner

    78 One owner

    Messages:
    337
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2003
    Location:
    Veyo, Utah (near St.George)
    I have been running a V-8 (several different smallblocks, all hand me downs:327,305,350....) since '83 when Hammerhead helped me finish my first conversion. I agree with him. Wear out what you have, take a test drive, and/or save and collect what you need for V-8 conversion. Any smallblock I've had in mine is preferable(my opinion) to the 2F mine came with. Even the worn out 305,or, the worn out 350 I'm running now. I flat towed Hammerhead's '74 FJ to Moab this year so we could keep each other company. With 4 kids in the back and all our camping gear stuffed in/on the '74 we pulled 70mph+ on anything that didn't have too much upgrade. He seldom even drives his that fast, and he has a new motor. His out-chugs my poor old motor, but mine hauls ass. I run away on the highway. My motor came out of an old Montecarlo that Hammerhead bought, upside down in a creek. ::)
    Some Quadrajets are better than others. Mine sucks, no pun :mad: TBI motors are nice, but pricey. The main benefit to a small-block over an F/2F is the price for parts is not based on whatever the gold standard is on the day you're buying.
     
  10. bernefj60

    bernefj60

    Messages:
    169
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2002
    [quote author=CruisinGA link=board=1;threadid=4073;start=0#msg30073 date=1059880807]
    Like me :D
    However, there is really no difference between the later F's and the 2F other than the larger displacement of the 2F. Its just the really early F's that unless you are restoring your cruiser to original specs, are best to be either upgraded or traded for a 2F or later F.
    [/quote]

    EEH! Wrong. The F and 2F, beside the difference in displacement, have a number of other differences, not to mention block castings, improved cooling and oil flow, different head designs, different pistons, crank, etc, etc... I could go on and on. if you're talking about the 74 model F, well, the difference become blurred as the 74 was the crossover year, but they're still there.