It's always been bad... But I have found that most people only know trail 1, 3, 10, maybe 44, 13 and 7.... And a few other mild trails. And they have never been on the other 80% of trails... Land cruiser, trail 8, 21, and many others that roll you on your side, and then you winch/drive on your side for 50 yards while packing mud into areas with bearing packing skill and force. My 4 runner hasn't been there in years. It took me a couple years to turn it back into a decent vehicle... I was under it yesterday and there is still Cliffs mud packed in the frame!