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BEST CARGO BARRIER ?

Discussion in '80-Series Tech' started by Beast II, Apr 6, 2003.

  1. Beast II

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    I'm thinking of getting a cargo barrier to protect me from the vast array of tools and camping gear in the back of my FZJ80. I'm looking at the TJM and the Milford. Can anyone offer advice on the best one to buy ?

    Thank you,

    Matt
    97 FZJ80
     
  2. Wrench

    Wrench One Bashed Up 80

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    From what I heard Milford is the best. Sorry I don't know more about them.
     
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    Matt,
    I have heard only good things on the Milford. The installation is invasive and takes a long time. The end result is outstanding.
    -B-
     
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    I haven't heard about the TJM. Can you cough up some details?
     
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    Matt:

    Good idea - as I keep saying, I'm amazed that this isn't a more popular additon. I recently (Jan) added a Milford barrier and I have been very happy.

    The Milford barrier is VERY well made, IMHO high quality barrier, parts, etc and it is crash tested (don't have the figures in front of me, but it can take something like a 120lb hit from 40-50 MPH. In order to acomplish this and not just be a basic dog barrier, you do have to drill a few holes - nothing major.

    As you likely know, the barriers are customed designed for specific vehicles, so the barrier looks OEM. Here are some details - black powder coated finish, cut outs with platic protectors and 'flaps' for three child seat anchor straps (critical for me and really the main reason I bought this), 4 point attachment system that allows quick removal of the barrier if needed (likely a 5 minute job) using very heavy duty hardware, ability to mount the barrier either behind the 1st or 2nd row seats (all mounts included - although I don't think you can use the front position if you have a sunroof - but not positive), sits flush with the rear of the 2nd row seats (ie angled slightly to follow seats) and then, just above the seats, goes 'vertical' to the roof = minimal loss in cargo space.

    The Barrier also comes with an emergency exit hammer to break glass (in case someone is trapped in the rear). As an indication of the quality, there are plastic 'plates' on the barrier (eg that note the intended vehicle, the 'stats' of the barrier, how to use the exit hammer) and these have anti-rattle backings - what a detail :)!

    Now for the install. I found the instructions to be 'ok' but not great. The indicated mounting points on the floor seemed to interfere with my child restrains, so I had to move them slightly (after I had drilled the first holes :-[). In the end, I found the best process was to fit the barrier and then work with the mounting brackets to show the exact mounting points.

    Once you have ID'd the mounting points, the install is relatively simple - WEAR EYE GOGGLES - lots of small bits of flying sheet metal. I took it really slow and didn't have any problems.

    Based on the TMJ picture, the barrier is similar, although the Milford barrier protect the entire part of the rear seat.

    Let me know if you want to see pics or more detail. All I know is that I feel MUCH safer with the barrier in place.

    Cheers, Hugh
     
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    Reading the description of the TJM barrier I noticed it ends with: "So take a load off your mind with an easy to install Australian Made Milford Cargo Barrier." I guess that explains why the look alike. ::)
     
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    Jim Wilkerson of Windy City is selling Milfords at his shop. www.midwestlndcruiser.com
    I just ordered my ARB from him. Good guy.
    I am affiliated through the club so take the referral however you want.
     
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    Anyone know if there is a half length barrier available? I'd like the ability to fold the rear seats down and throw longer stuff in there, and cover only the top above the seats when they are in the up postion.

    -H-

    (Finally a frickin' Junior! :D)
     
  12. cruiserdan

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    -H-

    So, does that mean your question was a pad? :banana:
    Joking aside,
    I was wondering the same thing as I have a storage box in the back. Could the bottom be cut off, maybe?
     
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    Yes, Milford does make a 1/2 height barrier to use with drawer systems.

    I do have a (custom designed) drawer and the full barrier fits behind this drawer. If you use the factory child anchor points like I do, and the drawer allows you to use the anchor point, the full barrier will fit.

    Cheers, Hugh
     
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    Hugh,

    My box touches the seat backs, A full length would not clear.
    How far down does the Halfer go?

    Regards...Dan :beer:
     
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    Hugh, did you have to design your storage system around the barrier, or did it fit in pretty well afterwards (the barrier that is...) Any pics?

    -H-

    (Nope, serious question, not too much of a pad.)
     
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    ;DRe: BEST CARGO BARRIER ?

    C-Dan and Topper:

    I haven't seen the 1/2 height barrier in person, but fire off an email to Milford, but based on this picture there seems to be lots of room.

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    In my case, the barrier was my fist thought (I had quite a nice spin-out in my old 60 with dog and lots of other stuff flying around - even with most of my gear strapped down with ratchet straps. I have twin boys and I didn't feel like having them hurt in an accident.

    So, I designed the drawer unit to fit with the barrier. I call them 'City Drawers', they cover 1/2 the back and allow me to use 1 of the rear seats if I really need to. With the barrier it's sort of like a prison transport, but it works :D

    The exterior dimentions are something like 3' long. The top deck is level with the wheel well and covers the well. On top of this goes our dog cage. My drawer fits all the usual stuff - Axe, fire extingisher, first aid kit, tools, etc

    I'll post pics later

    Cheers, Hugh
     
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    CDN:

    That is a really nice setup. I knew I should've paid more attention in woodshop.

    Matt
     
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    :beer:Re: BEST CARGO BARRIER ?

    Matt

    ahhhh, you haven't seen the pictures yet :D I know that I did the finishing work at the cottage after having one too many :beer: :beer:

    While some of the work was done using a table saw, most was completed using a skill saw! They are quite easy to build once you find a good set of heavy duty sliders. I'm still trying to track down some carpet that matches the flooring to cover the box.

    Cheers, Hugh
     
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    My last two cruisers, a 40 and a 60, had custom (read I made 'em.) drawers in the rear, and I really like the ability to have all of my stuff out of the way and not held down by ratchet straps. Both drawers didn't use any sliders, and I haven't found this to be too inconvenient. With carpet, supplies have run about $100 to make them.

    I think I have my weekend project.

    -H-
     
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    Yep, I've seen lots of different configurations on the Internet. I find that all the gear is heavy enough that a set of sliders is useful, but not necessary. In addition, they are by far the most expensive part of the project (IIRC, mine were 2/3 of the cost).

    Even with a cargo box, I think a cargo barrier is a good way to go for a few reasons. My box is secured using the 3rd row seat mounts and 'U' bolts, the box is made of wood and connected together with glue and screws (2" IIRC), the box and gear likely weights something like 125+Lbs.

    In any kind of serious accident/rollover, I think the force would be high enough to rip the box out or the box could break sending stuff flying :(.

    As we say in motorcycles - if you have a $50 head, then buy a $50 helmet. Your head is worth more than the $300 cost to buy the barrier :D.

    Cheers, Hugh