Neighbors house robbed - be careful - THEY STRIKE AGAIN! (aka: The Great Gun Thread)

[BillWright]

Originally Posted by eventhough

I've heard that with the Keltec P32 it works great half the time and the other half you have to get it cleaned up/smoothed out to work great. That is not a good thing with a gun but dang - it is so small!

If you mean half of them work fine straight out of the box, it's probably a lot better than that. A few do need a little work. All can probably be benefited by a bit of fine tuning.

But if you mean they work half the time, no I don't think so. Mine and any others I've heard of worked fine after a little TLC.
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[eventhough]

I meant half out the box but I should have said " I heard some need work"

Its small, cheap, small, did I say small...and with a little work will function well - but it has for me to feel comfortable function ALL the time.

[OB-1]

Thought you guys might like this:

The Associated Press: House votes to allow guns in national parks

[BELMONT148]

Originally Posted by OB-1

Thought you guys might like this:

The Associated Press: House votes to allow guns in national parks

Awesome, now I can carry my gun with me to Hunting Island in a few weeks even though I don't have my CWP yet.

I thought you guys might like the sign I had made that I stuck in front of my house down here in Charleston. You know there are a lot of liberal hippies down here and my neighbor is one of them. I got tired of argueing with him so I just posted this in front instead.

[eventhough]

Originally Posted by BELMONT148

Awesome, now I can carry my gun with me to Hunting Island in a few weeks even though I don't have my CWP yet.

I thought you guys might like the sign I had made that I stuck in front of my house down here in Charleston. You know there are a lot of liberal hippies down here and my neighbor is one of them. I got tired of argueing with him so I just posted this in front instead.

That's great!!! Did you actually put this in your yard? If you did I have to have a pic!!!

[Brock]

Originally Posted by 99UZJay

Can someone say short barrelled .50 cal???? Kiddin that'd hurt bad...... My P229 is ok I thought about a P239 but there is not alot of difference other than the mag well being single stack, and that means less lead...

it does not look like a lot by the numbers between 229 and 239 but they are different with the 239 feeling much thinner and slightly smaller overall.

I just picked up a good 239 in .40 that was a CPO...should have it Wednesday.

At 15 yds or less if I cant put 8 rounds into a bad guy to stop him then he will be on top of me by the time I need to reload so I am not a believer in the I NEED MORE ROUNDS community. If I get into a shootout then I plan on regressing, finding good cover, and picking my shots...none of this shooting over barricades to lay down cover fire or emptying a magazine at 15 yards like on television and NEVER HITTING ANYONE. LOL

My rule for concealed carry has nothing to do with rounds carried in magazine....it is this. Have a reliable, accurate, comforting gun......have a gun with the largest caliber you can shoot accurately under ALL conditions....and finally, HAVE A GUN. If that means I am more prone to carry the smaller and lighter in shorts and tshirts in heat of Summer instead of leaving the full size P220 at home and have a thinner, lighter, smaller P239 instead still with 8 rounds and a spare mag...then so be it.

I will put my 8 rounds up against any gang banger thug on the street when it comes to shooting under stress accurately and not just spraying rounds. Short of being deployed back into combat since my retirement or having a standoff with bank robbers like happened years ago and pushed the LEOs to start issuing higher capacities and long rifles....dont think that is applicable to 99% of the self defense situations. I always wondered after watching that video and re-enactiments many times....why none of the officers tried head shots. For the number of rounds expended there were relatively few hits on the perps even impacting their armor.

Think I will go to the range today...

SC is recognized in NC, VA, OH, IN, KY, TN, AR, LA, MO, OK, TX, NM, AZ, UT, WY, ID, MT, SD, AK, VT and only in KS, FL if SC Resident.

By the way, anyone in Charleston area interested in getting the Utah CCW Class....I am thinking of taking it and if one is not already scheduled you need 5 persons for ATP to hold the class. It adds the following to your SC permit: WA, NV, ND, MN, PA, DE, GA, AL and MS. (it only adds CO, MI, FL, NH if you are Utah Resident though)

So between SC (if resident) and UT you can have 31 states that recognize your permits. http://www.handgunlaw.us/

[eventhough]

I don't carry a spare mag. My Glock27 (40 SW) has a capacity of 9+1. I'm not a cop so if my gun ever clears leather (or kydex) I will beat feet ASAFP. If a gang banger wants to trade rounds he will be shooting at air b/c I'll be long gone as soon as a few rounds go down range.

Also, I rarely practice at over 15 yards with my pistol. I practice close range (5-12 yards) with multiple quick shots - 2 COM and sometimes 2 COM with a head follow-up. Usually it is 2 COM b/c I can accurately put those rounds down range and if I was under stress and had to do that in a real situation I don't know if I could accurately place a head shot. A real head moves a lot more than a head on a paper target.

We did have a strange car 'scoping' out the neighborhood yesterday. I was working in my office last night when the wife said someone was sitting outside in their car. I walked outside and didn't see anyone at first but then saw a vehicle in the dirt turn-around at the end of the road 2 lots away. I made sure they knew I saw them and they then left. It was two 20-30 year old Asian males in a newer Lexus, bike rack, clean car, well kept appearance. I believe they were just lost. I took their license plate and made sure they saw me doing it as they left. (Cue Marshall calling me paranoid. )

I bought motion flood lights last night and they will be going up within a week.

Also, the Rover neighbor said he often leaves his truck unlocked with an in-dash DVD player in plain view. The punks didn't touch his truck. Looks like they wanted to grab whatever they could quickly get and beat feet.

Punks...

[jleeFJ62]

Originally Posted by eventhough

We did have a strange car 'scoping' out the neighborhood yesterday. I was working in my office last night when the wife said someone was sitting outside in their car. I walked outside and didn't see anyone at first but then saw a vehicle in the dirt turn-around at the end of the road 2 lots away. I made sure they knew I saw them and they then left. It was two 20-30 year old Asian males in a newer Lexus, bike rack, clean car, well kept appearance. I believe they were just lost. I took their license plate and made sure they saw me doing it as they left. (Cue Marshall calling me paranoid. )

Wait...i dont own a lexus...

[Brock]

Originally Posted by eventhough

Also, I rarely practice at over 15 yards with my pistol. I practice close range (5-12 yards) with multiple quick shots - A real head moves a lot more than a head on a paper target.

Punks...

yep, they sure do I can tell you from experience. Put a honeydew melon on a string with coat hanger pushed through to help hold to string....put in front of good range backstop and swing or have it moving a little and see if you can hit it from 10yds. You might be surprised how good you do with only some practice. I also put tshirts and old work shirts over my silhouette targets....gets you away from aiming from a X in 10 ring an dmore into shooting COM on clothed targets and having to PICK a button or spot to aim at.

I tend to shoot instinctively at anything in the 5-12yd range when doing movement drills.....so making sure I get the same grip every time....good fundamentals...and focusing intently on my target is what i work on with magazine changes.

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[eventhough]

When I practice I never use sights unless I'm outside 15 yards. As long as I get a good grip on my gun I know where the lead is going to land.

I need to practice more movement drills but that is usually frowned upon at the local ranges, or there are too many people around.

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by eventhough

We did have a strange car 'scoping' out the neighborhood yesterday. I was working in my office last night when the wife said someone was sitting outside in their car. I walked outside and didn't see anyone at first but then saw a vehicle in the dirt turn-around at the end of the road 2 lots away. I made sure they knew I saw them and they then left. It was two 20-30 year old Asian males in a newer Lexus, bike rack, clean car, well kept appearance. I believe they were just lost. I took their license plate and made sure they saw me doing it as they left. (Cue Marshall calling me paranoid. )

Nothing wrong with a suspicious car on your street and writing down a tag. Thats being responsible. Wrenching under your cruiser in your driveway while having a loaded pistol on you. Is paranoid. And down right unsafe. I love you guys but damn I don't want to know your packing heat at a monthly meeting and my kids are around or we are wrenchin and know you not only have the 10mm socket I need but a glock I don't need under your arm. Don't be bringing that crap to my house, I'll send you home. lol. I have plenty of guns to protect you from yourself or my neighbors from you. Out in the woods is one thing but at a MM or HAMON is just plain silly.

Originally Posted by eventhough

I need to practice more movement drills but that is usually frowned upon at the local ranges, or there are too many people around.

Now that is a scary thought you wanting to run around while shooting your guns.

You crazy bastards. Every one of you.

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by BELMONT148

Awesome, now I can carry my gun with me to Hunting Island in a few weeks even though I don't have my CWP yet.



I thought you guys might like the sign I had made that I stuck in front of my house down here in Charleston. You know there are a lot of liberal hippies down here and my neighbor is one of them. I got tired of argueing with him so I just posted this in front instead.

Now I don't condone violence but if my neighbor put that sign up pointing at my house I'd beat them with their own gun. That just isn't funny.

Where the heck is the Cuban? I know he has some words of wisdom somewhere around here.

[delta21]

UC HAMON;

Originally Posted by Trollhole

Nothing wrong with a suspicious car on your street and writing down a tag. Thats being responsible. Wrenching under your cruiser in your driveway while having a loaded pistol on you. Is paranoid. And down right unsafe. I love you guys but damn I don't want to know your packing heat at a monthly meeting and my kids are around or we are wrenchin and know you not only have the 10mm socket I need but a glock I don't need under your arm. Don't be bringing that **** to my house, I'll send you home. lol. I have plenty of guns to protect you from yourself or my neighbors from you. Out in the woods is one thing but at a MM or HAMON is just plain silly.




Now that is a scary thought you wanting to run around while shooting your guns.

You crazy bastards. Every one of you.

[IndianDoc]

Originally Posted by pillguy

Great, that is helpful, one question though, what is the "+p" denote in ammo?

higher chamber pressure, not for use in older firearms, or if so at users risk.

[eventhough]

O'tay o'tay - I gots some things to say...

And nobody get pissed...dang it. I love you Marshall! Truth is I don't want to have to go back outside and finish spreading mulch around my house. My back is killing me...and it is not because of a gun. My holster fits very well thank you!

Originally Posted by Trollhole

Wrenching under your cruiser in your driveway while having a loaded pistol on you. Is paranoid. And down right unsafe.

It is not paranoid at all. I often have a pistol on me. That does not make me paranoid.

Why is it unsafe? My pistol never leaves its holster unless I am at the range, cleaning it, or using it. I haven't been to the range enough lately so therefore I haven't needed to clean it lately, but I did use it once last year to dispatch a deer that had been hit by a car during deer season. I could have used my rifle but it was unloaded and I didn't want to risk a long range ricochet.

The only way my gun leaves its holster is if it is pulled out. It is clamped down so hard it will never fall out on its own. It will also not go off unless the trigger is pulled. That is one reason I carry a Glock. They have 3 internal safeties to prevent the gun from discharging without the trigger being pulled.

Am I paranoid because I have life insurance? Nope - I want to make sure my wife is taken care of if I'm not around.

Am I paranoid because I have health insurance? Nope - I want to make sure I can pay for my medical treatment if a severe illness strikes or I need surgery...wait, that happened...

Am I paranoid because I have car insurance? Nope - its required by the law but I also want to be able to replace my car if I total it or if a numbnut runs into me without insurance...wait, that happened...

Am I paranoid because I have a spare tire and tools in both my Cruisers? Nope - I want to be able to take care of myself if I break down...wait, that happened...

Am I paranoid because I keep my doors locked all the time (now)? Nope - I don't want anyone to be able to easily break into my house...wait, my neighbor's door was kicked in about two weeks ago...

Am I paranoid because I have a savings account? Nope - you never know when a rainy day will come...wait, it's raining now...

Am I paranoid because I am funding my own retirement and not expecting to suck off the government teet (social security)? Nope - I'm taking responsibility for my own future and financial security. Now, I'm not a psychic but I don't expect much at all to nada to be there in the form of social security when my turn comes. I'll bet on that one.

Am I paranoid because I legally carry a weapon? Nope - police officers can not be everywhere all the time. I take responsibility for protecting myself. I hope nothing EVER happens where I have to draw my weapon but if I do I'll be prepared. I will be efficient with handling of my weapon and know what I am legally allowed to do. That is being prepared - not paranoid.

What is the difference from coming home from grocery shopping and then laying down on a crawler to work under my Pig? Should I remove my weapon just because there is a wrench in my hand?

Originally Posted by Trollhole

I love you guys but damn I don't want to know your packing heat at a monthly meeting and my kids are around or we are wrenchin and know you not only have the 10mm socket I need but a glock I don't need under your arm.

You can not legally carry in SC in a private residence without permission from the owner/occupant. I respect the law (don't get me started there) and I also respect my friend's wishes. I know you don't want a weapon on me while I am in your house, even though I've never asked, so I will never carry in your house. No worries there.

You can also not legally carry in SC in a dining establishment where alcohol is served, so, I have never carried in such a place. I've also never had a single drink, even a sip, and carried - not good mojo there either.

It is also your legal right to tell people not to carry guns in your house. I harbor no ill will towards someone who asks me this. It is kind of like asking someone not to wear muddy shoes into your house though b/c I wouldn't do that anyways.

Does being at a Monthly Meeting out at a restaurant mean you are automatically protected somehow from anything bad happening? There is just as good of a chance that you would need your weapon at the last Monthly Meeting at the BBQ joint as you would if you were driving to work, grocery shopping, at the mall, walking downtown,...you get the point.

Originally Posted by Trollhole

Don't be bringing that crap to my house, I'll send you home. lol.

Copy & paste from above.

You can not legally carry in SC in a private residence without permission from the owner/occupant. I respect the law (don't get me started there) and I also respect my friend's wishes. I know you don't want a weapon on me while I am in your house, even though I've never asked, so I will never carry in your house. No worries there.

Added - besides this thread and some UC'rs knowing I carry concealed carry = concealed carry. That means ya don't know its there. But again, I don't carry in places where I'm legally not allowed to or in some cases when I know someone wouldn't want me to. I'm going to a business later today where I know the owner and I'm pretty sure she wouldn't want for me to carry - so I'm not.

Originally Posted by Trollhole

I have plenty of guns to protect you from yourself or my neighbors from you.

Wanna bet?

Originally Posted by Trollhole

Out in the woods is one thing but at a MM or HAMON is just plain silly.

Now the crap I said above is just me poking some good fun - but here I'm very serious. You have a MUCH better chance of needing to defend yourself from a 2 legged threat than a 4 legged threat. I carry a weapon when I am in the woods to defend myself against a 2 legged threat or to hunt. I carry a weapon when I'm not in the woods to defend myself against 2 legged threats. Now, if I was out west I would carry a big gun for grizzlies. Some might recall I was bluff charged by a black bear last year while hiking. Even after that I feel there is a much better chance of a need to defend against 2 legs versus 4.

Originally Posted by Trollhole

You crazy bastards. Every one of you.

Yes sir!

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

To end my little (good natured) diatrible - somewhere earlier in this thread I believe I said I would never try to convince someone who is anti-carry that they should carry (or something to that effect.) If they decide they want to carry a weapon then I am more than happy to show them the SC law, recommend a weapon, recommend a CWP class, recommend additional training or go to the range with them. Heck, that happened last weekend and I am delighted to help this person. Less than a year ago they didn't want to even touch a gun. Now they have a weapon for home defense and want to know more, including what is required to be able to legally carry a weapon.

You shouldn't be afraid of someone carrying a weapon legally. You should be afraid of those who illegally carry a weapon. Guns are not evil. People who use guns to commit crimes are evil.

I'm not trying to convince anyone to carry a gun, or allow someone to carry a gun on their property if they don't like the notion, etc etc etc... I will though exercie my legal rights and be prepared.

I have a very wide array of friends. Some think I am extremely conservative and some think I am extremely liberal. I don't often discuss my beliefs. (I bet you couldn't guess that). (This is not directed at anyone here.) I am amazed by how many people who don't know my leanings have tried to tell me how guns are evil and should be outlawed. On the other had I am also amazed at how many of my other-leaning friends who I know carry don't ever bring up the topic and try to convince someone else that gun laws should be more lax, they should carry, etc. That is just a little tidbit to chew on.

all! I'm off to spread more mulch...fun times.

[eventhough]

Originally Posted by Trollhole

Now I don't condone violence but if my neighbor put that sign up pointing at my house I'd beat them with their own gun. That just isn't funny.

Gotta love free speech!

Going for someone's gun is not always the smartest idea...

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by eventhough

O'tay o'tay - I gots some things to say...

And nobody get pissed...dang it. I love you Marshall! Truth is I don't want to have to go back outside and finish spreading mulch around my house. My back is killing me...and it is not because of a gun. My holster fits very well thank you!



It is not paranoid at all. I often have a pistol on me. That does not make me paranoid.

Why is it unsafe? My pistol never leaves its holster unless I am at the range, cleaning it, or using it. I haven't been to the range enough lately so therefore I haven't needed to clean it lately, but I did use it once last year to dispatch a deer that had been hit by a car during deer season. I could have used my rifle but it was unloaded and I didn't want to risk a long range ricochet.

The only way my gun leaves its holster is if it is pulled out. It is clamped down so hard it will never fall out on its own. It will also not go off unless the trigger is pulled. That is one reason I carry a Glock. They have 3 internal safeties to prevent the gun from discharging without the trigger being pulled.

Am I paranoid because I have life insurance? Nope - I want to make sure my wife is taken care of if I'm not around.

Am I paranoid because I have health insurance? Nope - I want to make sure I can pay for my medical treatment if a severe illness strikes or I need surgery...wait, that happened...

Am I paranoid because I have car insurance? Nope - its required by the law but I also want to be able to replace my car if I total it or if a numbnut runs into me without insurance...wait, that happened...

Am I paranoid because I have a spare tire and tools in both my Cruisers? Nope - I want to be able to take care of myself if I break down...wait, that happened...

Am I paranoid because I keep my doors locked all the time (now)? Nope - I don't want anyone to be able to easily break into my house...wait, my neighbor's door was kicked in about two weeks ago...

Am I paranoid because I have a savings account? Nope - you never know when a rainy day will come...wait, it's raining now...

Am I paranoid because I am funding my own retirement and not expecting to suck off the government teet (social security)? Nope - I'm taking responsibility for my own future and financial security. Now, I'm not a psychic but I don't expect much at all to nada to be there in the form of social security when my turn comes. I'll bet on that one.

Am I paranoid because I legally carry a weapon? Nope - police officers can not be everywhere all the time. I take responsibility for protecting myself. I hope nothing EVER happens where I have to draw my weapon but if I do I'll be prepared. I will be efficient with handling of my weapon and know what I am legally allowed to do. That is being prepared - not paranoid.

What is the difference from coming home from grocery shopping and then laying down on a crawler to work under my Pig? Should I remove my weapon just because there is a wrench in my hand?



You can not legally carry in SC in a private residence without permission from the owner/occupant. I respect the law (don't get me started there) and I also respect my friend's wishes. I know you don't want a weapon on me while I am in your house, even though I've never asked, so I will never carry in your house. No worries there.

You can also not legally carry in SC in a dining establishment where alcohol is served, so, I have never carried in such a place. I've also never had a single drink, even a sip, and carried - not good mojo there either.

It is also your legal right to tell people not to carry guns in your house. I harbor no ill will towards someone who asks me this. It is kind of like asking someone not to wear muddy shoes into your house though b/c I wouldn't do that anyways.

Does being at a Monthly Meeting out at a restaurant mean you are automatically protected somehow from anything bad happening? There is just as good of a chance that you would need your weapon at the last Monthly Meeting at the BBQ joint as you would if you were driving to work, grocery shopping, at the mall, walking downtown,...you get the point.



Copy & paste from above.

You can not legally carry in SC in a private residence without permission from the owner/occupant. I respect the law (don't get me started there) and I also respect my friend's wishes. I know you don't want a weapon on me while I am in your house, even though I've never asked, so I will never carry in your house. No worries there.

Added - besides this thread and some UC'rs knowing I carry concealed carry = concealed carry. That means ya don't know its there. But again, I don't carry in places where I'm legally not allowed to or in some cases when I know someone wouldn't want me to. I'm going to a business later today where I know the owner and I'm pretty sure she wouldn't want for me to carry - so I'm not.



Wanna bet?



Now the crap I said above is just me poking some good fun - but here I'm very serious. You have a MUCH better chance of needing to defend yourself from a 2 legged threat than a 4 legged threat. I carry a weapon when I am in the woods to defend myself against a 2 legged threat or to hunt. I carry a weapon when I'm not in the woods to defend myself against 2 legged threats. Now, if I was out west I would carry a big gun for grizzlies. Some might recall I was bluff charged by a black bear last year while hiking. Even after that I feel there is a much better chance of a need to defend against 2 legs versus 4.



Yes sir!

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

To end my little (good natured) diatrible - somewhere earlier in this thread I believe I said I would never try to convince someone who is anti-carry that they should carry (or something to that effect.) If they decide they want to carry a weapon then I am more than happy to show them the SC law, recommend a weapon, recommend a CWP class, recommend additional training or go to the range with them. Heck, that happened last weekend and I am delighted to help this person. Less than a year ago they didn't want to even touch a gun. Now they have a weapon for home defense and want to know more, including what is required to be able to legally carry a weapon.

You shouldn't be afraid of someone carrying a weapon legally. You should be afraid of those who illegally carry a weapon. Guns are not evil. People who use guns to commit crimes are evil.

I'm not trying to convince anyone to carry a gun, or allow someone to carry a gun on their property if they don't like the notion, etc etc etc... I will though exercie my legal rights and be prepared.

I have a very wide array of friends. Some think I am extremely conservative and some think I am extremely liberal. I don't often discuss my beliefs. (I bet you couldn't guess that). (This is not directed at anyone here.) I am amazed by how many people who don't know my leanings have tried to tell me how guns are evil and should be outlawed. On the other had I am also amazed at how many of my other-leaning friends who I know carry don't ever bring up the topic and try to convince someone else that gun laws should be more lax, they should carry, etc. That is just a little tidbit to chew on.

all! I'm off to spread more mulch...fun times.

Gawd dog. You wrote all that. I think I have found the new Richard. lol.

Those friends of yours who are packing and don't say anything are doing exactly what they should be doing. That is not saying anything. They are not telling every member of our club they wrench while packing, they go on club events while packing they say nothing. Out of sight out of mind. I don't want to know about it. Honestly it wouldn't bother me if I knew some of us were packing. They are calm cool and collective under pressure. You on the other hand I have seen run or scream like a little girl when you thought you were going to get hit while spotting or when you thought someone was going to roll. To me that doesn't convey confidence in your gun handling experience. I can see me getting shot while you are running away and spraying bullets everywhere. lol.

This is a great thread. I cannot remember the last time we went to 3 pages.

Chuck where are you? I know you have something to say.

[eventhough]

Originally Posted by Trollhole

Gawd dog. You wrote all that. I think I have found the new Richard. lol.

Those friends of yours who are packing and don't say anything are doing exactly what they should be doing. That is saying anything. They are not telling every member of our club they wrench while packing, they go on club events while packing they say nothing. Out of sight out of mind. I don't want to know about it. Honestly it wouldn't bother me if I knew some of us were packing. They are calm cool and collective under pressure. You on the other hand I have seen run or scream like a little girl when you thought you were going to get hit while spotting or when you thought someone was going to roll. To me that doesn't convey confidence in your gun handling experience. I can see me getting shot while you are running away and spraying bullets everywhere. lol.

This is a great thread. I cannot remember the last time we went to 3 pages.

Chuck where are you? I know you have something to say.

I am comfortable with screaming like a girl. I took one of the biggest UC'rs on and I held my own. When do you wanna spar? I promise not to stop when you scream like a girl. It has been over two years since I fought but I think I could still treat you right.

Yeah, I might act a little goofy at times but when a weapon is involved things change. It is all business. I guess I need to be Mr. Calm & Collected all the time.

And regarding my ability to handle a weapon I am comfortable putting my trigger discipline, muzzle control and ability to put lead down range and on target up against almost anyone. Now, I realize UC has some fine individuals with service records who could probably wipe the floor with me but I am confident saying that I can hold my own with over 99.5% of the population. (For those of you who can wipe the floor with me I would love to learn from ya!)

And what was that you said? "Those friends of yours who are packing and don't say anything are doing exactly what they should be doing. That is saying anything. They are not telling every member of our club they wrench while packing," If ya wanted it quiet why did you try to call me out in Chat? IH8MUD Forums - View Single Post - Field find

And "Honestly it wouldn't bother me if I knew some of us were packing." Ah, tis personal... By the way - I've never carried at a UC event for several reasons.

[Trollhole]

Thank god. Now I can go to bed knowing you won't be packin at our events.

[eventhough]

Originally Posted by Trollhole

Thank god. Now I can go to bed knowing you won't be packin at our events.

Now this is the definition of paranoid. "2 : characterized by suspiciousness, persecutory trends, or megalomania" (Merriam-Webster online)

Well you shouldn't worry much anyways. Only one person showed to the last monthly.

I love how you poke fun, get a response, but don't address any questions directed at you.

[BELMONT148]

That sign was emailed to me and many other people at my work the other day. It was a joke, I don't believe anyone posted it. I would never waste money on a sign for some ant-gun lobyist. To each his own. I find it best to keep a low profile about my beliefs. I enjoy excercising my rights but don't like argueing about them. There are plenty of people like eventhough for that.

Jeremy

[eventhough]

I typically hold my beliefs pretty tight also - but a fight was picked with me on this one and it wouldn't go away.

[scott johnson]

Sad thing is you guys with cwp's can skip the background but me as a full time LEO has to sit around and wait on the freaking background check.

Bonus though is I can carry just about anywhere in the US.

[scott johnson]

I need to see what I have to do to get the certification to teach the CWP. Shouldn't be too hard. The state trust me to enough to be a LEO firearms instructor and teach at the Academy, should be able to teach the CWP with no problem. I dont know how hard it would be to work it in but I wouldnt mind getting a "range day" together if anyone is interested. I dont claim to know it all but I have picked up a few things along the way that the self defense minded person might appreciate.

[eventhough]

Originally Posted by scott johnson

Sad thing is you guys with cwp's can skip the background but me as a full time LEO has to sit around and wait on the freaking background check.

That doesn't make sense...

Originally Posted by scott johnson

I need to see what I have to do to get the certification to teach the CWP. Shouldn't be too hard. The state trust me to enough to be a LEO firearms instructor and teach at the Academy, should be able to teach the CWP with no problem. I dont know how hard it would be to work it in but I wouldnt mind getting a "range day" together if anyone is interested. I dont claim to know it all but I have picked up a few things along the way that the self defense minded person might appreciate.

I'm game. I would love to learn a few things.

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by eventhough

I typically hold my beliefs pretty tight also - but a fight was picked with me on this one and it wouldn't go away.

Lol. Earlier you blurted out you wrench on your cruiser while packing. You told us step by step what you would do in a situation and what loaded guns you have in the house. How is that holding your beliefs tight? You just put them out on a billboard for everyone to see. I just don't want to know about them.

For instance if Infojunkie (John) put up a post that he wore pink thongs. That is something I don't want to know. Or that Chuck likes the smell of his dogs farts. That is also something I don't want to know. Is it illegal? No. They have the freedoom to say what ever they want. But I'm sure both ot them won't because it just ain't right. Some people might get the wrong idea about them.

And now you want me to wrestle with you. How is that gonna fix the fact that I don't want to know you have a gun on you around me? I have to be honest I'm just not comfortable rolling around on the ground wrestling with another man so he can try to try to dominate me. Your on your own on that one.


Since we are talking about guns. Why don't we have a gun day somewhere. Someplace where we can shoot all of our guns? Pistols, Rifles, shotguns, etc... I'd love to shoot some skeet. We just need to find some private land unto which we can do this. Anyone have any ideas?

[Gundy]

Originally Posted by Trollhole

For instand if Infojunkie (John) put up a post that he wore pink thongs. That is something I don't want to know. Or that Chuck likes the smell of his dogs farts. That is also something I don't want to know. Is it illegal? No. They have the freedoom to say what ever they want. But I'm sure both ot them won't because it just ain't right. Some people might get the wrong idea about them.

Or...how about Gundy just bought the ol Lady a dangerous instrumentality.

All am saying is be on the look out she may come flying through a neighbor near ya soon.
Mama Mia!

[Trollhole]

Originally Posted by Gundy

Or...how about Gundy just bought the ol Lady a dangerous instrumentality.

All am saying is be on the look out she may come flying through a neighbor near ya soon.
Mama Mia!

Oh my. That is a thing of beauty. And I'm perfectly ok for her having that loaded weapon. Very nice. Vey nice indeed. I'm assuming your gonna start a new thread and tell us all about that beautiful thing.

[eventhough]

Now back on topic...

The PD called and let me know they were closing the case - they don't have any info and there haven't been any additional break-ins. They believe it was a couple teens who probably live close.

Nothing strange has been happening on the road lately. I've been keeping an eye out and not one strange vehicle. No kids snooping around either.

Hopefully this is over.

[informationjunky]

Originally Posted by Trollhole

For instance if Infojunkie (John) put up a post that he wore pink thongs. That is something I don't want to know. Or that Chuck likes the smell of his dogs farts. That is also something I don't want to know. Is it illegal? No. They have the freedoom to say what ever they want. But I'm sure both ot them won't because it just ain't right. Some people might get the wrong idea about them.

That is completely untrue, I did not post that. It was Gundy, he said it kept the undies from creeping when he slid into the seat of his sports car.

BTW is that a Fiat ?

Edit...duh, just saw your updated sig....we had a couple of 124s growing up, 850's, and on X19....would love to find a dino