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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
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How to paint aluminum diamond plate and how durable?
so I'm thinking about possibly painting the aluminum "diamond" plate on the rear Kaymar bumper. It's in natural state apparently, possibly with old OEM clear coat since it's not oxidized much if at all. I may want to go satin black. A DIY job, rattle can and all. Don't want to have to go to powdercoat, bead blast etc.
Any recommendation as to specific prep (DIY etching?) and paint for something that will be stepped on a fair amount? I need to minimize costs so fancy paintshop prep agents may be out. TIA __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ione CA
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Scuff well with scotch brite (no ferous ) clean, apply conversion coating (alodine) prime and paint.
The conversion coating is optional. ken __________________ 97 with thingy's and dodads ![]() Now with added geek KI6JEO
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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
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ah, chromating eh?
can't improvise the etching with vinegar or something like that? __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 |
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Brewers in '08!
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: God's Country
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Aluminum+paint=failure. In those areas(lots of abuse.)
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ione CA
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Im not sure about the vinegar?
To go real slick ( depending on the alloy) you could anodize it,if it's removable. ken __________________ 97 with thingy's and dodads ![]() Now with added geek KI6JEO
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: panhandle florida
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zinc chromate primer
you could rough it up and shoot over it with zinc chromate primer which is good for aluminum then paint with the paint of your choice.
I have heard of vinegar for painting over galvanized steel not sure about alum. zinc chromate is used on aircraft skins before painting __________________ B Smith123 Chaos, panic, & disorder - my work here is done. The easy way ain't cheap and the cheap way ain't easy!!! 71 FJ frame off build "UGLY BETTY" 33 in BFGs, 4 inch HFS lift, Durabak lined tub, and a soft top on the way! |
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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
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thanks
never mind the vinegar, I thought that it's a cute trick in a pinch, but a bottle of acid from Home Depot will probably do better for steel anyway. For alum, acid may not be a good idea, don't know. __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 |
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some 6, no 4, and more 6
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if it's removable, couldn't you powdercoat it?
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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
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sure but I enjoy doing these things myself and experimenting a bit, plus PC is much more expensive and I've had bad luck with it (once it's breached, the rust travels underneath and delaminates it...)
__________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Dec 2007
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dont bother using any sandpaper 1500, 2000 grit or whatever as it will be impossible to get every crease with those diamond plates.
if you can get too any paint shop or even somewhere online get a few pads of scotch brite red (coarse). You will be able to scuff diamond plate pretty easily. After that use a microfiber or any low-lint cloth and wipe down the plate with some mineral spirits. Next, buy a can of SELF ETCH PRIMER...it adheres to everything. Its basically a sort of prep/base coat that adheres to whatever metal and its "self-setching" so you dont have to scuff it before you lay on the paint. I work at a ferrari/lambo shop and we have tons of oldschool lambos that were made of aluminum and whenever we break down any car for beadblasting or whatever we usually do those steps to seal it from the elements if we cant get it in the booth quick enough to lay down primer. hope this helps! |
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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
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great, thanks
side question: is there some sort of car paint system that would protect normally, yet be easy to remove fully with a chemical agent of some sort? __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 |
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"Tuh not tuh"
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We usually blast our aluminum boats, however, you can also acid wash aluminum for a nice finish. The problem you will have is you need a rough surface for the paint to grab onto. Acid washing will not do that for you.
Get a cheap handheld sand blaster from Harbour freight or ebay. - even if you only use it for this you will get a much better result. We use Dupont Nason paint on our boats, it seems to hold up well. __________________ Bruce (VA3BWR) '66 TR4A IRS '77 FJ40, awaiting a frame off '84 BJ60, DD, WVO Buildup Thread '87 937r, (summer DD) '01 Impreza outback sport, DD'02 F350 Diesel - next on the WVO list (some assembly required to some of the above) ----------------------------------------------------------- To invent, you need a good imagination, and a pile of Junk. (Edison) |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: on the right coast
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Hey e,
Have you done painting the diamond plate on your Kaymar? Can you post pictures please? I would like to do this also on the Kaymar that I just bought. Thanks. __________________ Noel 97 LX450 (lockers retro 50%), CDL, Pin 7, HIRs, Cup Holder, 100 pads, George's LEDs, OEM grab bar, sidemarkers, ARB winch bar, PIAA 520, 295/75R16 NTG, Kaymar Deluxe with tire carrier, Slee speedo gear, ARB fridge, Xantrex 1750 inverter. Awaiting installation: OEM subtank, OME850J/863, slee SS brake lines, 3* blue bushings/caster plates, BIC 95300B dual batts, silicone PHH/FHH, .... 94 4Runner, OEM 4.88 gear, V6 3VZE 04 Taco Ext Cab SR5 V6 TRD RR DIFF LOCK, groucho sliders |
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You want to do what...?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: PRK
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not done yet. I'm hesitant to do it until I find a paint I can readily remove if need be. There is the issue of stepping on spray paint and how well it would hold and how bad it would look...
__________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650 |
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