I decided to paint this weekend

mikeob1 · 12-09-07, 07:36 PM

Here is my rig in primer...i have never painted before so I thought I'd give it a try. The paint spray gun I got at harbour freight for like $15. It worked good. I'll put the blue on it tomorrow. Masking was very tricky because I am completely rhino lined inside. I used 1/2 quart.

74fj40 · 12-10-07, 11:57 AM

come on! POST SOME PICTURES OF THE PAINT ON THERE!

mikeob1 · 12-10-07, 11:06 PM

well, i was about to go to bed at 9 and by 11 i was done. It took 1/2 quart ace mixed paint, 10 shop towels, .25 gal mineral spirits for clean up, 1 bud light, 1 pair of poly vinyl gloves, and 1 more can of bud light. These pictures are right after shooting it. I'll see how it dries and prolly do a second coat when I do the windshield frame and hood.

jsaltlick · 12-11-07, 05:50 AM

Looks great!!!

Greg1190 · 12-11-07, 07:42 AM

Nice job...love the color. Not bad for a first timer. Dont forget to open your kick vents and paint in there. Post more pics ....

JohnnyC · 12-11-07, 10:02 AM

how much did you thin the paint?

compressor? gun? (edit...read 1st post dumb dumb

)

compressor?

mikeob1 · 12-11-07, 02:31 PM

I didn't thin the paint at all. I think i'm going to thin the second coat 10%.

My compressor is a craftsman 23? or 27 galllon (red one). I had it set at 40 psi out.

The paint did seem like it had to try harder to come out of the gun than the primer did. I imagine thinning will help this.

thecrazygreek · 12-11-07, 05:16 PM

You will have alot less orange peel when you thin with mineral spirits @10%...

Kernal · 12-11-07, 11:16 PM

Heard somewhere that 60psi at the gun is required??

mikeob1 · 12-12-07, 12:06 AM

Hi All,

Tonight I put wet sanded with 400 and 600 paper and wiped it down with some sponges and clean water, then dried with a soft rag. I thinned the ACE paint 10% and sprayed the second coat. Attached are some pictures. I'm pretty happy with it and am planning on putting a clear coat on it.

My gun was at 40 psi. I thinned with mineral spirits.

mikeob1 · 12-12-07, 12:10 AM

I highlighted two dents I left in the tailgate cuz I didn't want to experiment with body filler. The top right dent is courtesy of the factory tire carrier. Although I love my rig, the factory tire carrier was a bit of a lame idea compared to the modern aftermarket bumper carriers.

The second dent smack dab in the middle of the tailgate is courtesy of the dude that sprayed the rhino liner. The gate slipped out of his hand and stopped when it contacted the trailer hitch ball. Fark, what do you do.

But anyhoot...I likee the paint so far.

mikeob1 · 12-12-07, 12:13 AM

My gun box said 20 - 55 psi max

antFJ · 12-12-07, 07:34 AM

"Fark, what do you do."

make him pay for it!!!

looks good though!

mikeob1 · 12-13-07, 11:19 PM

Here it is with the drop cloth off. I like it. I started sanding the hood and windshield frame. Man...the windshield has a lot of fasteners. I really would like to replace the glass, but i'm thinking that will have to wait.

73fj · 12-14-07, 01:33 AM

Are you going to do anything with the inner fenders?

mikeob1 · 12-14-07, 08:34 AM

Yes, for the under fenders, I am thinking of POR 15 or rust bullet in flat black brushed on with the wheel off. (After a nice wirebrush on the end of the drill.)

I thought about this when I decided to paint, and at the time, since I didn't have a whole lot of room, leaving the fenders/aprons/bibs hanging on the truck made sense. A complete removal / sandblast / would be idea.

It has some black undercoating under the tub that is in good shape. The line of light rust you see under the fender is the undercoating worn away from many gravel roads.

I'm also going to put some wax on it.

REZARF · 12-15-07, 02:56 PM

coming along nice. Anyone know the longevity of this method yet?

Rezarf <><

e9999 · 12-15-07, 03:04 PM

really nice for a first time!

did you shoot the paint outside?

othater · 12-18-07, 04:38 PM

Very nice job.

Did you cover the whole garage?
Did you have much overspray?
air dry or heat lamps?

Sorry for all the questions.

mikeob1 · 12-18-07, 11:07 PM

I didn't shoot the paint outside. I didn't get any overspray in the garage...only on the air intake of the compressor. I opened the garage door half way when shooting the tailgait. It really wasn't that messy.

e9999 · 12-19-07, 10:34 AM

I am surprised that your garage didn't end up all blue...

maybe the low pressure? were these really large drops coming out?

(I don't know much yet about air spraying as you can tell, but planning to practice a bit)

Colorado Boy-74-FJ40 · 12-21-07, 06:45 PM

Why are you gonna wax it? I had a buddy that was a body man for 30 + years and he never waxed anything. You said you were gonna clear coat it, didn't you? Just polish the clear-coat. You shouldn't need to wax, unless you were talking about waxing the old lady.... Then that's up to you.

mikeob1 · 12-28-07, 12:38 PM

nah...i'm not clear coating. Can't find a quart of clear enamel at ace or home depot. My requirements for the job were to get paint at one of those places. I am gonna wax tho so i can use my 12 dollar polisher i got from harbor freight.

Oh...and i'm sure i'll put a little wax on the old lady, as suggested. hee hee....hey here is my latest. I'm waiting for some new hinges, a radiator, and some stainless screws from ccot.

73fj · 12-28-07, 04:03 PM

Is it a 20 footer or does it look good up close too?

mikeob1 · 01-10-08, 10:11 PM

Well it has been a month and i've only worked on nights and weekends. I'm down to the last piece. I also had to put in a new radiator. But...I got new hinges and rubber pads so everything is nice and tight.

The grill work has taken the most time to strip and paint.

I'll get some pictures of it in the sunshine whitht the grill trim piece on. I primed it in white tonight after grinding the remaining paint flecks with a die grinder.

bkfj40 · 01-12-08, 03:51 AM

looking great!

I can't wait to go from 12 colors on my 55 down to two....

bk

mikeob1 · 01-14-08, 10:02 PM

Well that's about it for making the paint job. Total cost was about $200 for gun, paint, masking, thinner, primer, sandpaper, wirewheels. It took two coats of primer and two coats of paint. The hinges were black rattle can. The color was matched to rustoleum harbour blue. That way, I can touch up easily with rattle can if need be.

I'm pretty happy with the results. I've never painted a car before and always wanted to try. I encourage anyone to go for it. It really isn't that hard, and just figure it is a $200 lesson. It rather f' it up than have a cheap paint shop mess it up. And hey...there are always sandblasters that can get you to square one again, if need be.

The next time I try, it will be a base coat clear coat with real auto paint. That is going on my Ford focus. Not that I'm unhappy with this one, just want to try it all I guess.

REZARF · 01-15-08, 10:07 PM

Good for you, looks great man! You know that was the "I am going to try to look cool, but inside I am smiling like a little kid"... shot.

Came out really nice, would you do everyone a favor and post up in a few months on how it is weathering and holding up?

Rezarf <><

12-09-07, 07:36 PM	#1
mikeob1 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 89	I decided to paint this weekend Here is my rig in primer...i have never painted before so I thought I'd give it a try. The paint spray gun I got at harbour freight for like $15. It worked good. I'll put the blue on it tomorrow. Masking was very tricky because I am completely rhino lined inside. I used 1/2 quart. Attached Images __________________ 1974 FJ-40 softop, OME suspension, 33's, Custom seats, Rhino inside.

12-10-07, 11:57 AM	#2
74fj40 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Highlands Ranch, Colorado Posts: 2,002	come on! POST SOME PICTURES OF THE PAINT ON THERE! __________________ >Max Parkinson: January of 1972 FJ40> Rebuilt F-Engine, 4" BDS lift, Primer Paint job, 35" BFG MTRs 60 series axles, 4speed tranny with 4 speed split case, soon to have saginaw power steering with GM tilt column and some other junk. My baby >www.risingsun4x4club.org

12-10-07, 11:06 PM	#3
mikeob1 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 89	i promised...here it is well, i was about to go to bed at 9 and by 11 i was done. It took 1/2 quart ace mixed paint, 10 shop towels, .25 gal mineral spirits for clean up, 1 bud light, 1 pair of poly vinyl gloves, and 1 more can of bud light. These pictures are right after shooting it. I'll see how it dries and prolly do a second coat when I do the windshield frame and hood. Attached Images __________________ 1974 FJ-40 softop, OME suspension, 33's, Custom seats, Rhino inside.

12-11-07, 05:50 AM	#4
jsaltlick Got a nice one for ya.... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Millis Beach TLCA# 17094 Posts: 1,446	Looks great!!! __________________ 2000 328i 1983 VJ47 Crew Cab 1982 Toyota Blizzard Finally I can get what I've always wanted....a used Toyota.

12-11-07, 10:02 AM	#6
JohnnyC IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: albany area, ny TLCA# 2231 Posts: 2,767	how much did you thin the paint? compressor? gun? (edit...read 1st post dumb dumb ) compressor? __________________ 1974 FJ40 OEM Soft Top 2004 Toyota Sienna LE (1) Child boy version (1) Child girl version (1) Child in Production 197 Wife TLC Literature and Manuals: http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series...y-lit-etc.html Toyota History: http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj25-owners-...ical-data.html TLC FST Canvas & Maintenance: http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series...soft-tops.html

12-11-07, 07:42 AM	#5
Greg1190 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pico Rivera Posts: 79	Nice job...love the color. Not bad for a first timer. Dont forget to open your kick vents and paint in there. Post more pics ....

12-11-07, 02:31 PM	#7
mikeob1 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 89	thinning I didn't thin the paint at all. I think i'm going to thin the second coat 10%. My compressor is a craftsman 23? or 27 galllon (red one). I had it set at 40 psi out. The paint did seem like it had to try harder to come out of the gun than the primer did. I imagine thinning will help this. __________________ 1974 FJ-40 softop, OME suspension, 33's, Custom seats, Rhino inside.

12-11-07, 05:16 PM	#8
thecrazygreek IH8MUD Junior Whopper Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 670	You will have alot less orange peel when you thin with mineral spirits @10%... __________________ Yahsoo! 1969 Breathe FJ40 Currently in the middle of a ground up... 1976 Olive FJ40 finished as of May 2008 Faster Track Resto

12-11-07, 11:16 PM	#9
Kernal IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 21	Heard somewhere that 60psi at the gun is required??

12-12-07, 12:06 AM	#10
mikeob1 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 89	I wet sanded and put on second coat Hi All, Tonight I put wet sanded with 400 and 600 paper and wiped it down with some sponges and clean water, then dried with a soft rag. I thinned the ACE paint 10% and sprayed the second coat. Attached are some pictures. I'm pretty happy with it and am planning on putting a clear coat on it. My gun was at 40 psi. I thinned with mineral spirits. Attached Images __________________ 1974 FJ-40 softop, OME suspension, 33's, Custom seats, Rhino inside.

12-12-07, 12:10 AM	#11
mikeob1 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 89	The red circles I highlighted two dents I left in the tailgate cuz I didn't want to experiment with body filler. The top right dent is courtesy of the factory tire carrier. Although I love my rig, the factory tire carrier was a bit of a lame idea compared to the modern aftermarket bumper carriers. The second dent smack dab in the middle of the tailgate is courtesy of the dude that sprayed the rhino liner. The gate slipped out of his hand and stopped when it contacted the trailer hitch ball. Fark, what do you do. But anyhoot...I likee the paint so far. __________________ 1974 FJ-40 softop, OME suspension, 33's, Custom seats, Rhino inside.

12-12-07, 12:13 AM	#12
mikeob1 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 89	My gun box said 20 - 55 psi max __________________ 1974 FJ-40 softop, OME suspension, 33's, Custom seats, Rhino inside.

12-12-07, 07:34 AM	#13
antFJ IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CT Posts: 340	"Fark, what do you do." make him pay for it!!! looks good though! __________________ Oct '76 FJ40 '84 S-10 - '94 S-10 blazer leather interior, 3" hocky puck

12-13-07, 11:19 PM	#14
mikeob1 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 89	Took off masking tape Here it is with the drop cloth off. I like it. I started sanding the hood and windshield frame. Man...the windshield has a lot of fasteners. I really would like to replace the glass, but i'm thinking that will have to wait. Attached Images __________________ 1974 FJ-40 softop, OME suspension, 33's, Custom seats, Rhino inside.

12-14-07, 01:33 AM	#15
73fj Always wrenchin Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta TLCA# 7236 Posts: 481	Are you going to do anything with the inner fenders? __________________ I ain't gonna hit ya..........ahhh the hell I ain't! - John Wayne I have a RED cruiser fetish. Support our Troop's. Journeyman Sheet Metal Worker. Sometimes I drink beer and surf mud.................at the same time! Then I can't remember what I posted

12-15-07, 02:56 PM	#17
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,761	coming along nice. Anyone know the longevity of this method yet? Rezarf <>< __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

12-15-07, 03:04 PM	#18
e9999 You want to do what...? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: PRK Posts: 10,122	really nice for a first time! did you shoot the paint outside? __________________ '97: 86K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 97K, the better half's... DD

01-12-08, 03:51 AM	#26
bkfj40 some 6, no 4, and more 6 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: shenandoah valley, va TLCA# 7909 Posts: 1,076	looking great! I can't wait to go from 12 colors on my 55 down to two.... bk __________________ 76fj40 77fj55 85fj60 00uzj100 90Hilux Crew Cab Diesel 07 5.7L Tundra DC "I spend most of my money on beer, land cruisers, and women...the rest I just waste" - Curran

12-14-07, 08:34 AM	#16
mikeob1 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 89	Yes, for the under fenders, I am thinking of POR 15 or rust bullet in flat black brushed on with the wheel off. (After a nice wirebrush on the end of the drill.) I thought about this when I decided to paint, and at the time, since I didn't have a whole lot of room, leaving the fenders/aprons/bibs hanging on the truck made sense. A complete removal / sandblast / would be idea. It has some black undercoating under the tub that is in good shape. The line of light rust you see under the fender is the undercoating worn away from many gravel roads. I'm also going to put some wax on it. __________________ 1974 FJ-40 softop, OME suspension, 33's, Custom seats, Rhino inside.

12-18-07, 04:38 PM	#19
othater IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 70	Very nice job. Did you cover the whole garage? Did you have much overspray? air dry or heat lamps? Sorry for all the questions.

12-18-07, 11:07 PM	#20
mikeob1 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 89	I didn't shoot the paint outside. I didn't get any overspray in the garage...only on the air intake of the compressor. I opened the garage door half way when shooting the tailgait. It really wasn't that messy. __________________ 1974 FJ-40 softop, OME suspension, 33's, Custom seats, Rhino inside.

12-19-07, 10:34 AM	#21
e9999 You want to do what...? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: PRK Posts: 10,122	I am surprised that your garage didn't end up all blue... maybe the low pressure? were these really large drops coming out? (I don't know much yet about air spraying as you can tell, but planning to practice a bit) __________________ '97: 86K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 97K, the better half's... DD

12-21-07, 06:45 PM	#22
Colorado Boy-74-FJ40 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gresham Or. Posts: 1,186	Why are you gonna wax it? I had a buddy that was a body man for 30 + years and he never waxed anything. You said you were gonna clear coat it, didn't you? Just polish the clear-coat. You shouldn't need to wax, unless you were talking about waxing the old lady.... Then that's up to you. __________________ 4 Chevys and a Yota ////////////////////////////// 1994 4X4 Silverado pickup 2000 S-10 pickup 2000 Monte Carlo SS 2003 Trailblazer LTZ and a little old 1974 FJ-40

12-28-07, 12:38 PM	#23
mikeob1 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 89	nah...i'm not clear coating. Can't find a quart of clear enamel at ace or home depot. My requirements for the job were to get paint at one of those places. I am gonna wax tho so i can use my 12 dollar polisher i got from harbor freight. Oh...and i'm sure i'll put a little wax on the old lady, as suggested. hee hee....hey here is my latest. I'm waiting for some new hinges, a radiator, and some stainless screws from ccot. Attached Images __________________ 1974 FJ-40 softop, OME suspension, 33's, Custom seats, Rhino inside.

12-28-07, 04:03 PM	#24
73fj Always wrenchin Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta TLCA# 7236 Posts: 481	Is it a 20 footer or does it look good up close too? __________________ I ain't gonna hit ya..........ahhh the hell I ain't! - John Wayne I have a RED cruiser fetish. Support our Troop's. Journeyman Sheet Metal Worker. Sometimes I drink beer and surf mud.................at the same time! Then I can't remember what I posted

01-10-08, 10:11 PM	#25
mikeob1 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 89	Getting closer... Well it has been a month and i've only worked on nights and weekends. I'm down to the last piece. I also had to put in a new radiator. But...I got new hinges and rubber pads so everything is nice and tight. The grill work has taken the most time to strip and paint. I'll get some pictures of it in the sunshine whitht the grill trim piece on. I primed it in white tonight after grinding the remaining paint flecks with a die grinder. Attached Images __________________ 1974 FJ-40 softop, OME suspension, 33's, Custom seats, Rhino inside.

01-14-08, 10:02 PM	#27
mikeob1 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 89	Thanks All Well that's about it for making the paint job. Total cost was about $200 for gun, paint, masking, thinner, primer, sandpaper, wirewheels. It took two coats of primer and two coats of paint. The hinges were black rattle can. The color was matched to rustoleum harbour blue. That way, I can touch up easily with rattle can if need be. I'm pretty happy with the results. I've never painted a car before and always wanted to try. I encourage anyone to go for it. It really isn't that hard, and just figure it is a $200 lesson. It rather f' it up than have a cheap paint shop mess it up. And hey...there are always sandblasters that can get you to square one again, if need be. The next time I try, it will be a base coat clear coat with real auto paint. That is going on my Ford focus. Not that I'm unhappy with this one, just want to try it all I guess. Attached Images __________________ 1974 FJ-40 softop, OME suspension, 33's, Custom seats, Rhino inside.

01-15-08, 10:07 PM	#28
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,761	Good for you, looks great man! You know that was the "I am going to try to look cool, but inside I am smiling like a little kid"... shot. Came out really nice, would you do everyone a favor and post up in a few months on how it is weathering and holding up? Rezarf <>< __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.