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How 'bout a beer!
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Cad and Zinc Plating
Anyone try this?
http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/zinc.htm I have thousands of nuts, bolts and washers that are in fair condition. For abut $50 I can get one of those jigglers from Harbor Freight and have heard they work good. Then a hundred bucks gets me a plating system. The other day I spent $30 on a small bag of metric hardware at Ace. I figure this set up would pay for itself. THoughts? __________________ Hugh Heifer 9/71 FJ40 / 4 Speed / '77 2F / Weber / Header / 4" Skyjacker / 35" BFG Mudders [ And a '71 going ground up] |
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Come on in boys...
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: coastal empire
Posts: 849
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yep.
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...hlight=caswell A few folks have used this with mixed results. It does take pratice and you get better after each batch. With the kit I got, there is enough chemicals and zinc to do all the fasteners. __________________ '68 mostly stock FJ40L-B SOLD!
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Trekker, post up some more pics of what you have done with this kit. I saw your first pics back in 2005 and was pretty impressed. Thinking of doing this myself. I already have a cabinet blaster and have been powder coating most parts but some just need to be plated!
__________________ !Oy my 1971 FJ40 Not Road Legal http://tinyurl.com/47zpb (My Web Site) http://tinyurl.com/2h6hc7 (Nut and Bolt Spreadsheet) |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Just moved to Highlands Ranch, CO!
TLCA# Don't have one yet :)
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Heifer-
I think you'll be pleased with the results with that kit. I know you'll spend more than that on shipping the items to a plater....unless you're lucky enough to have one locally. Plus there is always the fact that the second you ship out something with a ton of parts, you're not going to get 100% of them back....its just Murphy's law of outsourcing Cruser nuts and bolts stuff ![]() Best of luck with the kit! We'll be following your progress!! __________________ "Soon Ralph, Soon!" MY TOYS: 72' FJ40, Sold on eBay,guy never heard of an FJ40! :( 81' FJ40, went the way of the destructor! (parted out) 66' FJ45LV, currently being fixed back up! 02' Tacoma Double Cab, TRD SuperCharged- My Daily Driver 99' Acura TL - Wife's My Fix-up Thread: http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj45-owners-club/113621-here-goes-66-lv-restore-thread.html |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 69
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I've got it and it works pretty good. You've got to have a good power supply. I use a 50amp battery charger, and pull 14 amps on bigger items. Also you have to regulate the current, I use light bulbs, for the bigger items I use the head lights from the 40. 2amps on low beam, 4 amps on high. Don't use the brightner if you want to do the copy cad. Caswell also has a forum that will answer questions also.
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IH8MUD Lifer
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This thread is worthless without PICS! Show off your work!
__________________ !Oy my 1971 FJ40 Not Road Legal http://tinyurl.com/47zpb (My Web Site) http://tinyurl.com/2h6hc7 (Nut and Bolt Spreadsheet) |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 69
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OK OK ! I'll try soon, but no promises, busy time of the year. If you want a quick fix, go to Caswell's site. People post pictures of there stuff there.
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 69
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This link has some pictures.
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.p...aswell+plating Something I plated from around the carb I think and the emergency brake thingy |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Thank you! Those look great! Guess I'll have to look hard at the plating kit now... That was the copy cad, then dip in the dichromate solution, and dry process?
__________________ !Oy my 1971 FJ40 Not Road Legal http://tinyurl.com/47zpb (My Web Site) http://tinyurl.com/2h6hc7 (Nut and Bolt Spreadsheet) |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 69
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Clean the part,,, sand blast, wire wheel..... soak in muriatic acid, soak in soap stuff they send you..... plate ( 20 min).....rinse.... soak in chormate (20 sec), dry with heat gun on low..... let set over night..
I've spent many hours in front of the bench grinder with a wire wheel cleaning nuts and bolts. |
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IH8MUD Addict
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Wow, I can't wait to get my kit set up. I just built the bench last weekend.
I guess like with paint prep is the key. __________________ '79 FJ40 33" MTRs, 2" OME, ' 96 FZJ80 Stock, OEM Rear Locker, CDL, OEM Hand Trottle, OEM Grab Bar, JDM Cooling Fan Consensus my ass... http://www.petitionproject.org/ |
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IH8MUD Addict
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Wow, I think I just got a Christmas list....
Jeff: do you have the Caswell copy cad setup, or are you shipping your parts out? Anyone here use the Caswell power supply? How much current would one need to plate, say, a 3 foot u-bolt (7/8" diameter)? The caswell supplies are expensive, but there is nothing I hate more than a cheap tool failing (or failing to work correctly), so I usually pony up for the good stuff in that department... Dan __________________ 1976 HJ-45 (needs restoration) http://forum.ih8mud.com/fj45-owners-...self-into.html 1991 "Faux-Lux"Pickup 4x4 2LT-E/R-150f http://forum.ih8mud.com/79-95-toyota...onversion.html "Dandelions. You see flowers in these weeds." --Five Iron Frenzy Rebuilt Aisin Hub Faces http://forum.ih8mud.com/sale-parts/2...hub-faces.html |
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For your example, I make the surface area about 87.24 sq in. According to their online calculator http://www.caswellplating.com/cdcalc.html doing copy cad would take a greater than 12 amp supply. __________________ 1977 FJ40, 1980 FJ40 |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: panhandle florida
Posts: 989
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Interesting post your parts look like new good work
__________________ B Smith123 Chaos, panic, & disorder - my work here is done. The easy way ain't cheap and the cheap way ain't easy!!! 71 FJ frame off build "UGLY BETTY" 33 in BFGs, 4 inch HFS lift, Durabak lined tub, and a soft top on the way! |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 97045
Posts: 2,974
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Plating is CHEAP to have done, my place acid strips and then plates all hardware in tumblers and hangs everything else. If I were to do every part possible it would be $3-400ish. Heck I could do all the diff housings, bumpers, doors and everything else but the frame for $1k
Sure the kit is cheaper, but having open chemicals around pets, neighbor are your kids is my eyes is a huge liability. Shane __________________ ---> Replacement leather for 80 series ---> Heater restoration kits 1967-74 40 series ---> Replacement leather for 60 series ---> eBay Store - Decals, Heater kits and bits |
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How 'bout a beer!
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I am sure there is a plater around Atlanta somewhere but I have been unable to find one that seemed willing to do just abunch of small items.
When plating small parts that cn not han (nut and bolts) what do you put them in? A strainer? __________________ Hugh Heifer 9/71 FJ40 / 4 Speed / '77 2F / Weber / Header / 4" Skyjacker / 35" BFG Mudders [ And a '71 going ground up] |
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Come on in boys...
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: coastal empire
Posts: 849
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I looked around Georgia to do the cadium plating but the nearest was somewhere in Alabama.
So I purchased the Caswell kit and my results were very good. I would do some more but you really need to be set up to do it. That is clean work area, clean parts, attention to detail, etc. To do nuts and bolts I either wrapped them with copper wire or fashioned a plastic strainer (from the kitchen and shhhhh!) with copper wire threaded through it. If I were to do this all over again, I would farm it out in one big batch and be done with it. __________________ '68 mostly stock FJ40L-B SOLD!
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A bit off subject but I found a place in Chattanooga, TN the other day that does large scale hot dip galvanizing. __________________ Hugh Heifer 9/71 FJ40 / 4 Speed / '77 2F / Weber / Header / 4" Skyjacker / 35" BFG Mudders [ And a '71 going ground up] |
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Come on in boys...
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: coastal empire
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I think I got the name from Hemmings Motor News in the classifieds.
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Come on in boys...
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: coastal empire
Posts: 849
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I used to belong to a yahoo group that had a bunch of people doing their own plating. Some were set up for doing small jobs.
Try this: http://tech.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/Electroplating/ I just tried it and cound not connect for some reason. |
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__________________ Hugh Heifer 9/71 FJ40 / 4 Speed / '77 2F / Weber / Header / 4" Skyjacker / 35" BFG Mudders [ And a '71 going ground up] |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,450
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Anyone ever try to cad plate something as large as a front brake caliper, or know a company that can do it?
__________________ 1985 FJ60 (Fairey OD) 1988 FJ62 1996 FZJ80 (lockers) |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 97045
Posts: 2,974
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Shane __________________ ---> Replacement leather for 80 series ---> Heater restoration kits 1967-74 40 series ---> Replacement leather for 60 series ---> eBay Store - Decals, Heater kits and bits |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Georgia
Posts: 224
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Georgia, real close to commerce.
Brownings Metal Plate 706-652-2996 I would not waste my time calling, they never anwer. Hours M-F 9-5 THey have chromed for me in the past and currently are chroming and plating all my 45 needs. I took everything in a bucket to them from tiny to fairly large. I think it was $100-$150. |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Chattavegas, TN
Posts: 134
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We met at the meeting at double tree billiards sometime before the end of the year. I just now getting back into the swing of things.. I've been looking at that kit as well but didn't wanna drop the $150 plus buy a power supply. Do you think any of the other guys up here (Chattaboogie) would be interested in going in together for it? Just a thought! I hope to make it to the meeting on the 13th...... Brog
__________________ '67 FJ40 Finally, my Resto...... (Which would have been sold in pieces a long time ago if it weren't for the help of you guys at MUD) http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=...localeid=en_US |
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