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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Lewisville, NC
Posts: 247
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body work on or off frame
Can the body work be done off the frame? I am ready to move on to the next step but it looks like getting the premium tubs from heritage are gonna take too long so I guess its time to search for a local boyd guy. The body has been off for some time and I was wondering If it can be done as is off the frame and on a stand versus being attached to the frame. will all the dimensions in the body and frame manual work as long as you brace the corners and go from there?
Thanks __________________ Spence Wilcox 2007 Silver FJ Cruiser MT 1974 Fj-40 in a million pieces for a ground up build |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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well, my body shop told me they would have to put my tub alone on a rotisory so they could get all the areas.
if your not having the underside painted i could see them maybe putting it on a stand. makes sense but no pro here. just my little 2 cents. this is just what i have been told by professional body shops. good luck __________________ All ive got is my dreams and my land cruiser!
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,957
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Hopefully you braced all the openings before removing the body from the frame. If not, there's a very large chance your doors won't fit properly, especially if there's rust in the tub.
__________________ world's cleanest 89 FJ-62, and a few parts... 85 xcab hilux 4x4 resto'ed, 67 XKE, 1500 Vulcan, 80 Fj40 restored 03 Tacoma TRD SR5, Suzuki DR350 ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 89
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So if you are replacing panels, should you brace before taking the hardtop off? I am replacing rear panels and I have taken the hardtop off. Should I put the hardtop back on and brace???
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Lewisville, NC
Posts: 247
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how do you know when measurements have changed? is there a book on dimensions i have some sort of black book with all the measurements for the frame and such i hope it has them for the tub.
spence __________________ Spence Wilcox 2007 Silver FJ Cruiser MT 1974 Fj-40 in a million pieces for a ground up build |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,957
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You can brace once the hardtop is removed, before cutting any body panels. You want to temp weld a brace across each door opening to maintain measurement, or at least that's the way I do it. Front doors brace left to right, weld across the top of the tub in the rear from left to right, with legs to maintain height. You'll need the legs to touch the frame, so will need to remove rear sill first, which incorporates two body mounts. Then on to quarter panels, inner fenders, floors, body mounts, and the like. I'm sure there are dimensions, someone's recorded, I don't have em available right now.
__________________ world's cleanest 89 FJ-62, and a few parts... 85 xcab hilux 4x4 resto'ed, 67 XKE, 1500 Vulcan, 80 Fj40 restored 03 Tacoma TRD SR5, Suzuki DR350 ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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IH8MUD Addict
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Nice! Always dreamed of doing it that way but just don't have the space.
__________________ Mike R 5 cruisers = 2 daily drivers + 2 for trail + 1 project Yuba City, CA TLCA #2041 |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 723
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All they did at my High School was build demolition derby cars and hack up stuff. Wish I would have had a cool auto shop teacher. Now, just a few more years of working and maybe I too can get on at a votec or hs. Back on topic, no need to brace on the 55? or did you make a "frame" to mount the body to? __________________ '87 FJ60 2FTBI, '73 FJ40, '72 FJ55, '66 FJ40, M416A1 www.olympiafj60.net www.eastolympiacruisers.com |
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Former Wheeler
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No frame.
Maybe before I take the roof panel off it'd be a good idea though. Taxpayers didn't buy me a rotisserie. The kids made it for a fabrication project out of some old engine stands. Someone had bought some three legged ones that I wouldn't use after a kid tipped one over almost on himself last year. I can't stand to throw anything out so I still had 'em when I needed 'em. The shop 69 Camaro will go up on it when the pig is off. It is awful nice perk to the job to have a shop to work in.
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 723
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That is clever. I have seen those three legged jobies, but would never use one. Is it adjustable in height and length? Does it just use the engine mounting plate/tube to rotate or did the get fancy with some bearings or such?
Two engine stands and two sets of big pneumatic casters and I would be able to role it in and out of the shop and over to the Costco tarp for painting. __________________ '87 FJ60 2FTBI, '73 FJ40, '72 FJ55, '66 FJ40, M416A1 www.olympiafj60.net www.eastolympiacruisers.com |
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Former Wheeler
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It's adjustable for length. The big 2" chunk in the middle is bolted in. We can drill new holes wherever.
The heads just rotate on the stands. One person can spin it easily enough. The tires are the steel casters that came on the stands. One person can wheel it around the shop. That was a huge bonus that I wasn't expecting. |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,202
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cool rotisserie Gumby. Do you plan on pouring some rust inhibitor up/down the a/b/c/d pillars.
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Former Wheeler
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Hadn't thought of that. They really aren't a rust prone area on the 55. I might cut the B pillar open and weld a roll bar hoop right inside the pillar.
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Souther Vancouver Island
Posts: 42
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Sweet Rotisserie
That is one sweet unit.
__________________ Who The Cap Fit, Let Them Wear It |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,202
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