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IH8MUD Lifer
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Land Use Thread: READ THIS!
Post up what you see and act now or we are gonna lose it all...
ever wanna wheel in AZ? the rest of the nation? I am writing to you all to ask that you go the link below, and sign the petition located there. This is a petition to fight the Forest Service's effort to close 80-90% of ALL forest service roads - NATIONWIDE. If they are successful in passing their "Travel Management Rule", they will close all but the MAIN roads in and out of the forest, and we will have no other access by ANY Motorized vehicle. You will not be able to Camp off these main roads - to retrieve a game animal off road or retrieve firewood. You will either have to carry out to the open roads by hand, or obtain a special use permit to go off road in a vehicle. You will also have to WALK into the forest to find game or firewood, as the roads we all presently use throughout the forest will be Closed !!! Ken and I truly believe that this will not only impact our use of the forests, but it will impact the economy in our community as well as others in similar areas throughout our state (and across the US) in a huge way!!! If people cannot come to our mountains and use the PUBLIC forest lands as we do now, not only will folks quit coming to camp/hunt/fish etc, but they will find new places to have their "summer cabins" - and go elsewhere to recreate and build - somewhere they have the Freedom to do what they are there for... and full enjoyment of OUR PUBLIC LANDS! We will lose our Freedom in the Forests and Much More if we do not fight this proposed Rule. This will be voted on and monies appropriated to put into full swing before summer. If passed, by 2009 this will become a reality. What's worse, this is only the tip of the iceberg.... they have so many other measures they are trying to implement to keep us out. What they do plan to keep open, will all have a FEE tied to the use of camping, boating, game/fuelwood retrieval even day use areas. This is all in addition to the permits and licenses we are already required to pay for. If I am not mistaken, we already pay to enjoy the public lands merely by being tax paying citizens ! I have a lot more information on this if you want to call or email me with questions, but for now, please go to the link, sign the petition, and then forward it to ALL your family and friends to do the same. Shelley & Ken Moore Heber/Overgaard, AZ LINK TO PETITION __________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA Last edited by Wayneraintree; 02-15-08 at 05:53 AM. |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 120
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done!
Thanks __________________ UZJ100 |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Our National Forest Trails Are in Trouble
things are serious...... not just for wheeling in Nat'L Forests but for anything but foot travel. Somehow, the backers of the motto "if ya can't walk it, stay off it" seem to be winning : ( __________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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From the website:
Trails in Trouble - Resources for Lawmakers there is some really good info there.... __________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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does it ever stop????
__________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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get involved or be a web wheeler forever
__________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Tellico Update
__________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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This is today, post up some positive remarks and be heard
![]() OFFICIAL Johnson Valley "Virtual Protest" Thread! - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board __________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA |
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IH8MUD Regular
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2PM-6PM PST. Be there or be trail-less!
__________________ Bill Somerset, PA USA 2007 FJ Cruiser 1966 FJ40 (Website Link:New Project) (on Mud: updated more often) Proud member of ALCA! |
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IH8MUD Regular
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They're up to post #1080 (44 pages). Get over there and sound off.
__________________ Bill Somerset, PA USA 2007 FJ Cruiser 1966 FJ40 (Website Link:New Project) (on Mud: updated more often) Proud member of ALCA! |
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IH8MUD Regular
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Jeffrey,
I enjoyed your article regarding land use in the latest issue of Toyota Trails. __________________ Rob 97 FZJ80 Coll Ed CDL Switch/7 Pin Mod Aussie Locker Rear Slee Headlight Harn HIR's Slee Step Sliders Slee Trans Case Skid ARB Non-Winch ARB Skid REVO's-road & TRXUS MT's-dirt 130K miles ALL SYN OIL(S) |
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HopHeads, Unite!
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I concur.
__________________ 1995 FZJ80 -- Factory Locked, 2.5+" OME w/ 850s and 863s, CC Plates, BFG AT LT 285/75R16, Extra stuff bolted on, replaced, inserted, thrown inside and put on top. "A world without open country would be an infinite prison." -Edward Abbey |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Thanks guys... it was fun to write! Hope it helps lights a figurative fire : )
__________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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__________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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more action needed...
__________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA |
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IH8MUD Rookie
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mechanicsburg PA
Posts: 5
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just signed the petition i think it was at 56961 when i signed it.we all can make a difference
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IH8MUD Lifer
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more...
__________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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__________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Save Tellico Virtual Rally
OFFICIAL Upper Tellico "Virtual Rally" Thread - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board
OFFICIAL Upper Tellico "Virtual Rally" Thread -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the offical Upper Tellico Rally thread. The rally will be on Wednesday May 7th from 4 to 9 pm Eastern Standard Time. Please make sure to post your comments on that day. Until then, PLEASE spread the word! Basic Rally Instructions: 1. Please post up your concerns on the Upper Tellico OHV area being closed. You MAY make multiple posts! 2. Tell people how you have enjoyed Tellico in the past! (Tell us stories!) 3. If you have never been to the Upper Tellico OHV area, voice your concern about this closure and tell people how you or your club recreates responsibly in your own area! If you have always wanted to go to Tellico, let us know! 4. Show them what this area means to the entire OHV community! 5. Post pictures! Trail rides, camping with your family, etc. 6. Have fun, but please remember to be professional. Many eyes will be on this thread! 7. MAKE SURE you see what number post your FIRST post in the thread is! Please put that number somewhere in your sig-line so we know who has posted! Thank you all! Nick McCracken Rally Lead Kurt Schneider Pirate4x4.com land-use Editor FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Kurt Schneider Tel. 925-596-0432 E-mail: kurtuleas@pirate4x4.com El Dorado County: April 18th, 2008 VIRTUAL ONLINE RALLY FOR UPPER TELLICO OHV AREA Pirate4x4.com builds on a successful rally format to protest more route closures After an extremely successful virtual rally for Johnson Valley and the world renowned Hammers rock crawling trails in California, Pirate4x4.com members are shifting their focus to the east coast and are once again gathering for a massive virtual rally to save the Upper Tellico OHV Park in North Carolina. On Wednesday May7th, 2008, Pirate4x4.com, a leading website for the OHV community, will hold this rally from 4 to 9 pm eastern standard time. In 2007, the Southern Environmental Law Center, in coalition with Trout Unlimited and P.E.E.R. (Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility) filed a notice of intent to sue the Untied Stated Forest Service, claiming it was in violation of the federal water pollution act. This coalition stated that the Upper Tellico OHV area was dumping sediment into nearby streams and destroying the habitat of local brook trout. In turn, the USFS closed a major portion of the Tellico trail system. There are many arguments against closing this popular OHV area, and many organizations involved in keeping it open. Carla Boucher, the attorney for the United Four Wheel Drive Association states, “United Four Wheel Drive Association (UFWDA), along with its partners Blue Ribbon Coalition and Southern Four Wheel Drive Association, are committed to taking all steps necessary to save our access at Tellico, including legislative, administrative, and legal action!” This rally will bolster the efforts made by these organizations in this battle by showing a large contingent of OHV users who back and support these organizations in their efforts. Virtual rally participants will be asked to post their experiences, photos and history recreating with their families in the Tellico area along with their feelings and beliefs as to why the trail system should not be closed. Their comments will be posted and tracked in a bulletin board format, with a goal of creating a lasting record of how important this area is to a vast number of people in the OHV community. Tellico is one of the very few public areas on the east coast for OHV recreation. Interested parties are encouraged to participate in the rally and read the thread. On March 12th 2008, Pirate4x4.com hosted a similar virtual rally for the world renowned OHV trail system in Johnson Valley, CA. That rally had nearly 1,500 posts from OHV enthusiasts all across the world in a four hour time span. Saved in time in order to create a lasting homage to the rally, to date the Hammers rally has been viewed by over 48,000 people. __________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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Be Heard!!!!!!!!!!!!! Save Tellico
__________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA |
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IH8MUD Lifer
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millions of acres under fire
http://forum.ih8mud.com/tlca-land-us...hr-2016-a.html
email your senators if you feel strongly. Get involved folks, this is happening at an alarming rate
__________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA Last edited by Wayneraintree; 05-12-08 at 06:16 PM. |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: MD
Posts: 1,118
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Actually, I did contact my state senator (MD) about the OB and don't know what at this point that they can do. Here's an exerp from the response:
"Thank you for contacting me about recreational vehicle use in portions of the Cape Hatteras National Seashore. It's nice to hear from you. As you know, the issue of whether these vehicles should be permitted on areas of seashore most critical to threatened and endangered shorebirds is in federal court. As a United States Senator, I am precluded from intervening in any matters which are presently or will be before the court of law." So if a senator can't intervene, who can? __________________ '77 FJ40: HFS, 33's, Locked and Low'd
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IH8MUD Lifer
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comment on Tellico ASAP!
Upper Tellico OHV Area
They are going to close basically any trail challenging ![]() Here is the email address to send an informed, tasteful comment: comments-southern-north-carolina-nan...itee@fs.fed.us Here is an even more convenient way to voice the opinions: Comments on Upper Tellico OHV System - BlueRibbon Coalition __________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA Last edited by Wayneraintree; 06-26-08 at 08:25 PM. |
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