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campoj2 · 01-28-08, 06:19 PM

I'm hoping that someone this forum has lockers on a FJ80, and that person if able, can take a picture of their rear locking diff wiring harness where it enters the chasis.

Here's my nightmare thread:

http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-te...-location.html

Feel free to help out and like I said in the thread a picture is worth a thousand posts.

Thanks,
John

Wayneraintree · 01-28-08, 06:56 PM

maybe PM CJBury, he's got the 80 lockers....

BROKEROB1 · 01-28-08, 07:00 PM

John,
I could be wrong here, but I read some of those theads and I was always under the impression that you need to fabricate that rear harness.... no?

Lugboot · 01-29-08, 05:24 AM

My 95 has lockers. I can see about getting a pic this week--I'll try to bring the truck to work one of these days.

Would that help? Would give me an excuse to clean my throttle body, anyway.

I assume you'd like this sooner than later?

CJBury · 01-29-08, 09:04 AM

I will try to get you a pic tomorrow. Don't feel like climbing under the rig in the rain.

Straydog · 01-29-08, 04:04 PM

WUSSY

CJBury · 01-29-08, 06:08 PM

Someday I will be as manly as Sean.

Straydog · 01-30-08, 01:40 AM

One could only hope.

Lugboot · 01-30-08, 05:23 AM

I've already given up on that. Sean's the apotheosis of manly.

Chris--if you don't get the pics before, I'll bring my truck to work Thursday to snap a couple in the garage. I don't feel like crawling under it in the dirt and snow and the ice and the mud at home.

Lugboot · 01-31-08, 11:11 AM

I hope these are what you're looking for.
1. is the rear quarter--you can see the drain sticking out.
2. is along the frame rail from the rear quarter.
3. is inside the fender well--you can see the harness thru the crack.

Lugboot · 01-31-08, 11:13 AM

Last pic. the harness coming off the diff and up the upper control arm to the frame. you can see the companion flange at the bottom of the pic.

CJBury · 01-31-08, 03:03 PM

Thanks Brett, now I don't have to get dirty.

Lugboot · 02-01-08, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJBury

Thanks Brett, now I don't have to get dirty.

I was only thinking of you, dude.

Straydog · 02-01-08, 03:52 PM

Wow, in the salt much? My trucks almost ten years older and dosent look half as bad.

campoj2 · 02-01-08, 07:06 PM

FINALLY! A picture.

Yes a wiring harness must fabricated once the actuator harness makes inside. On all FJ80 trucks there is a way to penetrate the truck through an existing harness and it is this harness I am trying to find.

I have to plugs/connectors (from the actuator harness) that have to hook up to something outside and in the back of the truck - I just couldn't find the connection. I think this picture finally shows where to look for those connections.

Thank You!

CJBury · 02-01-08, 07:37 PM

Glad you finally got the pic you needed. Maybe you should link the pics to the 80 thread so they know what you were talking about.
"The land of Frank Rizzo" That's an old name. My mom knew him back in the late 60's. She work in the ER at misracordia in Philly. From the stories it was a pretty crazy time.

Lugboot · 02-04-08, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Straydog

Wow, in the salt much? My trucks almost ten years older and dosent look half as bad.

Yeah, lesson learned. . . never buy a Montana truck. Holy shee-ut.

campoj2 · 03-27-08, 08:28 AM

No new updates on this situation, I wanted to find an existing wiring harness in a junk yard but most of those folks will pull the axles out of the truck and then sell the truck for scrap. I have a couple of guys on the main board running things down for me, but they are not really in a hurry to get the parts to me. One of these days the locked 80 will lock. Its been a long road.

Blue77FJ40 · 03-27-08, 10:05 AM

Here's a site that might be of assistance:

Baja Overland

Wayneraintree · 03-27-08, 02:06 PM

Is it not possible to use the FSM diagram to make a harness... it's still wire and connection, relay, maybe a solenoid.... have someone trace the wires and draw a diagram and copy it.

Blue77FJ40 · 03-28-08, 07:01 AM

That's true enough Jeff, but there are special connectors needed for the locker at least. For full retrofit, there are connectors needed for the ecu end if used. I bought my harness for the locker connectors basically. I cut off the other connectors and made my own for the cabin end. YMMV

campoj2 · 03-28-08, 04:20 PM

I called Cruiserparts..net and they found the harnesses that I need, it will cost a couple of bucks but I am tired of calling junk yards and dealing with lazy people and I was hoping that someone on the forum might have 93-94 that they are parting out and would sell me the harnesses, but they were not super motivated either, so, I went to a retail outlet and scored what I was looking for, hopefully the right parts show up. After this is done I have to tackle the knuckle/birf replacement.

campoj2 · 05-10-08, 06:15 PM

Installed a Kaymar bumper this today - without the directions, and all in all it turned out OK. The bumper looks very nice and I just have to figure out how to rig the lights and what configuration to go with. I have this idea that I can rig them to the nomal brake light / turn signal harness - then with a secret switch illuminate just the drivers side rear light (continously) during days/nights of low visibility.

Has anyone done this before? If so chime in, I could use a little help.

jamarquardt22 · 05-11-08, 09:49 AM

how did you do on your locker wireing. if your still having problems I may be able to help. I had my own nightmare lastyear with a TRD tacoma axle.

campoj2 · 05-11-08, 06:35 PM

I still have not purchased the factory harness from Cruiseparts..net, somehow things that are more important keep coming up. I just scored that bumper, the rims are coming in on Wednesday and I still have an A/C problem that has to be addressed - I blew the high side line charging the system on Saturday, it was that long line that runs from the passenger side to the drivers side - I know it is going to be biach to remove.

You wouldn't happen to know where I could score one of those harnesses?

jamarquardt22 · 05-12-08, 01:35 PM

there about 100+ bones from the dealer ship. I scored mine in a trade with the local guy that specilizes in toyota stuff.

I can hook you up with a nice easy wireing diagram so you dont have to find a factory locker computer and switch.

Really though you should just get this. NEW ORS E-Locker Harness!!! - TTORA Forum
For the price how can you go wrong?

campoj2 · 05-12-08, 05:54 PM

I have the ECU, rotory switch, dashlights and the all of the actuator harnesses. I feel, no I am compelled to go that extra mile and those F***ing OEM wiring harnesses, and when it's all done, no one will know the difference, I think I am going over the edge!

jamarquardt22 · 05-12-08, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by campoj2

I think I am going over the edge!

Ill second that!

I didnt realize you had everything already. Whats the hold up then? Maybe I simply dont get it.

campoj2 · 05-18-08, 06:46 PM

It comes down to installing 2 harnesses that no one wants to sell, people are generally lazy, and if they have to go and dig through a truck to get the part, chances are that they won't and that's were I'm at.

CDan has 1 harness for $140 and the other goes for $360, altogether that's $500, at this point I am almost have enough money to score that ARB bull bar that I

01-28-08, 06:19 PM	#1
campoj2 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Land of Frank Rizzo TLCA# Unknown Posts: 664	PALCA Brain Trust I'm hoping that someone this forum has lockers on a FJ80, and that person if able, can take a picture of their rear locking diff wiring harness where it enters the chasis. Here's my nightmare thread: http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-te...-location.html Feel free to help out and like I said in the thread a picture is worth a thousand posts. Thanks, John __________________ 1994 Green FZJ80 Locked - But not currently Locking EZ Pass Son of Moose http://www.carrfuneralhome.net/?p=146

01-28-08, 06:56 PM	#2
Wayneraintree IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Eastern PA TLCA# 9720 Posts: 2,685	maybe PM CJBury, he's got the 80 lockers.... __________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA

01-28-08, 07:00 PM	#3
BROKEROB1 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: York, PA TLCA# 16197 Posts: 260	John, I could be wrong here, but I read some of those theads and I was always under the impression that you need to fabricate that rear harness.... no? __________________ Rob 97 FZJ80 Coll Ed CDL Switch/7 Pin Mod Aussie Locker Rear Slee Headlight Harn HIR's Slee Step Sliders Slee Trans Case Skid ARB Non-Winch ARB Skid REVO's-road & TRXUS MT's-dirt 130K miles ALL SYN OIL(S)

01-29-08, 05:24 AM	#4
Lugboot HopHeads, Unite! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pennsyltucky TLCA# 17677 Posts: 968	My 95 has lockers. I can see about getting a pic this week--I'll try to bring the truck to work one of these days. Would that help? Would give me an excuse to clean my throttle body, anyway. I assume you'd like this sooner than later? __________________ 1995 FZJ80 -- Factory Locked, 2.5+" OME w/ 850s and 863s, CC Plates, BFG AT LT 285/75R16, Extra stuff bolted on, replaced, inserted, thrown inside and put on top. "A world without open country would be an infinite prison." -Edward Abbey

01-29-08, 09:04 AM	#5
CJBury IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Suburban Hell TLCA# 15636 Posts: 771	I will try to get you a pic tomorrow. Don't feel like climbing under the rig in the rain. __________________ Chris 96 FZJ ALCA Wheel it till it's a buggy


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01-29-08, 04:04 PM	#6
Straydog IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Camp Hill, PA TLCA# 16782 Posts: 367	WUSSY __________________ SEAN 85 extra cab Go outside and do that!

01-29-08, 06:08 PM	#7
CJBury IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Suburban Hell TLCA# 15636 Posts: 771	Someday I will be as manly as Sean. __________________ Chris 96 FZJ ALCA Wheel it till it's a buggy

01-30-08, 01:40 AM	#8
Straydog IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Camp Hill, PA TLCA# 16782 Posts: 367	One could only hope. __________________ SEAN 85 extra cab Go outside and do that!

01-30-08, 05:23 AM	#9
Lugboot HopHeads, Unite! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pennsyltucky TLCA# 17677 Posts: 968	I've already given up on that. Sean's the apotheosis of manly. Chris--if you don't get the pics before, I'll bring my truck to work Thursday to snap a couple in the garage. I don't feel like crawling under it in the dirt and snow and the ice and the mud at home. __________________ 1995 FZJ80 -- Factory Locked, 2.5+" OME w/ 850s and 863s, CC Plates, BFG AT LT 285/75R16, Extra stuff bolted on, replaced, inserted, thrown inside and put on top. "A world without open country would be an infinite prison." -Edward Abbey

01-31-08, 11:11 AM	#10
Lugboot HopHeads, Unite! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pennsyltucky TLCA# 17677 Posts: 968	Pics I hope these are what you're looking for. 1. is the rear quarter--you can see the drain sticking out. 2. is along the frame rail from the rear quarter. 3. is inside the fender well--you can see the harness thru the crack. Attached Images __________________ 1995 FZJ80 -- Factory Locked, 2.5+" OME w/ 850s and 863s, CC Plates, BFG AT LT 285/75R16, Extra stuff bolted on, replaced, inserted, thrown inside and put on top. "A world without open country would be an infinite prison." -Edward Abbey

01-31-08, 11:13 AM	#11
Lugboot HopHeads, Unite! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pennsyltucky TLCA# 17677 Posts: 968	Last pic. the harness coming off the diff and up the upper control arm to the frame. you can see the companion flange at the bottom of the pic. Attached Images __________________ 1995 FZJ80 -- Factory Locked, 2.5+" OME w/ 850s and 863s, CC Plates, BFG AT LT 285/75R16, Extra stuff bolted on, replaced, inserted, thrown inside and put on top. "A world without open country would be an infinite prison." -Edward Abbey

01-31-08, 03:03 PM	#12
CJBury IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Suburban Hell TLCA# 15636 Posts: 771	Thanks Brett, now I don't have to get dirty. __________________ Chris 96 FZJ ALCA Wheel it till it's a buggy

02-01-08, 03:52 PM	#14
Straydog IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Camp Hill, PA TLCA# 16782 Posts: 367	Wow, in the salt much? My trucks almost ten years older and dosent look half as bad. __________________ SEAN 85 extra cab Go outside and do that!

02-01-08, 07:06 PM	#15
campoj2 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Land of Frank Rizzo TLCA# Unknown Posts: 664	FINALLY! A picture. Yes a wiring harness must fabricated once the actuator harness makes inside. On all FJ80 trucks there is a way to penetrate the truck through an existing harness and it is this harness I am trying to find. I have to plugs/connectors (from the actuator harness) that have to hook up to something outside and in the back of the truck - I just couldn't find the connection. I think this picture finally shows where to look for those connections. Thank You! __________________ 1994 Green FZJ80 Locked - But not currently Locking EZ Pass Son of Moose http://www.carrfuneralhome.net/?p=146

02-01-08, 07:37 PM	#16
CJBury IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Suburban Hell TLCA# 15636 Posts: 771	Glad you finally got the pic you needed. Maybe you should link the pics to the 80 thread so they know what you were talking about. "The land of Frank Rizzo" That's an old name. My mom knew him back in the late 60's. She work in the ER at misracordia in Philly. From the stories it was a pretty crazy time. __________________ Chris 96 FZJ ALCA Wheel it till it's a buggy

03-27-08, 08:28 AM	#18
campoj2 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Land of Frank Rizzo TLCA# Unknown Posts: 664	No new updates on this situation, I wanted to find an existing wiring harness in a junk yard but most of those folks will pull the axles out of the truck and then sell the truck for scrap. I have a couple of guys on the main board running things down for me, but they are not really in a hurry to get the parts to me. One of these days the locked 80 will lock. Its been a long road. __________________ 1994 Green FZJ80 Locked - But not currently Locking EZ Pass Son of Moose http://www.carrfuneralhome.net/?p=146

03-27-08, 10:05 AM	#19
Blue77FJ40 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MD Posts: 1,121	Here's a site that might be of assistance: Baja Overland __________________ '77 FJ40: HFS, 33's, Locked and Low'd

03-27-08, 02:06 PM	#20
Wayneraintree IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Eastern PA TLCA# 9720 Posts: 2,685	Is it not possible to use the FSM diagram to make a harness... it's still wire and connection, relay, maybe a solenoid.... have someone trace the wires and draw a diagram and copy it. __________________ Jeffrey Save Tellico! TreadLightly BlueRibbon Coalition United Four Wheel Drive TLCA.org ALCA- Fledgling Cruiser group of eastern PA

03-28-08, 07:01 AM	#21
Blue77FJ40 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MD Posts: 1,121	That's true enough Jeff, but there are special connectors needed for the locker at least. For full retrofit, there are connectors needed for the ecu end if used. I bought my harness for the locker connectors basically. I cut off the other connectors and made my own for the cabin end. YMMV __________________ '77 FJ40: HFS, 33's, Locked and Low'd

03-28-08, 04:20 PM	#22
campoj2 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Land of Frank Rizzo TLCA# Unknown Posts: 664	I called Cruiserparts..net and they found the harnesses that I need, it will cost a couple of bucks but I am tired of calling junk yards and dealing with lazy people and I was hoping that someone on the forum might have 93-94 that they are parting out and would sell me the harnesses, but they were not super motivated either, so, I went to a retail outlet and scored what I was looking for, hopefully the right parts show up. After this is done I have to tackle the knuckle/birf replacement. __________________ 1994 Green FZJ80 Locked - But not currently Locking EZ Pass Son of Moose http://www.carrfuneralhome.net/?p=146

05-10-08, 06:15 PM	#23
campoj2 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Land of Frank Rizzo TLCA# Unknown Posts: 664	Installed a Kaymar bumper this today - without the directions, and all in all it turned out OK. The bumper looks very nice and I just have to figure out how to rig the lights and what configuration to go with. I have this idea that I can rig them to the nomal brake light / turn signal harness - then with a secret switch illuminate just the drivers side rear light (continously) during days/nights of low visibility. Has anyone done this before? If so chime in, I could use a little help. __________________ 1994 Green FZJ80 Locked - But not currently Locking EZ Pass Son of Moose http://www.carrfuneralhome.net/?p=146

05-11-08, 09:49 AM	#24
jamarquardt22 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mountville, PA Posts: 123	how did you do on your locker wireing. if your still having problems I may be able to help. I had my own nightmare lastyear with a TRD tacoma axle. __________________ Andy 98 Taco- lifted 3" on 31" BFG at's Well armored and now e-locked!

05-11-08, 06:35 PM	#25
campoj2 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Land of Frank Rizzo TLCA# Unknown Posts: 664	I still have not purchased the factory harness from Cruiseparts..net, somehow things that are more important keep coming up. I just scored that bumper, the rims are coming in on Wednesday and I still have an A/C problem that has to be addressed - I blew the high side line charging the system on Saturday, it was that long line that runs from the passenger side to the drivers side - I know it is going to be biach to remove. You wouldn't happen to know where I could score one of those harnesses? __________________ 1994 Green FZJ80 Locked - But not currently Locking EZ Pass Son of Moose http://www.carrfuneralhome.net/?p=146

05-12-08, 01:35 PM	#26
jamarquardt22 IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mountville, PA Posts: 123	there about 100+ bones from the dealer ship. I scored mine in a trade with the local guy that specilizes in toyota stuff. I can hook you up with a nice easy wireing diagram so you dont have to find a factory locker computer and switch. Really though you should just get this. NEW ORS E-Locker Harness!!! - TTORA Forum For the price how can you go wrong? __________________ Andy 98 Taco- lifted 3" on 31" BFG at's Well armored and now e-locked!

05-12-08, 05:54 PM	#27
campoj2 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Land of Frank Rizzo TLCA# Unknown Posts: 664	I have the ECU, rotory switch, dashlights and the all of the actuator harnesses. I feel, no I am compelled to go that extra mile and those F***ing OEM wiring harnesses, and when it's all done, no one will know the difference, I think I am going over the edge! __________________ 1994 Green FZJ80 Locked - But not currently Locking EZ Pass Son of Moose http://www.carrfuneralhome.net/?p=146

05-18-08, 06:46 PM	#29
campoj2 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Land of Frank Rizzo TLCA# Unknown Posts: 664	It comes down to installing 2 harnesses that no one wants to sell, people are generally lazy, and if they have to go and dig through a truck to get the part, chances are that they won't and that's were I'm at. CDan has 1 harness for $140 and the other goes for $360, altogether that's $500, at this point I am almost have enough money to score that ARB bull bar that I