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Ok you guys, we made it EXACTLY 1.02 miles from the staging area where the Subaru Outback was parked Are we a bunch of losers or what!!! LOL..

Check out the attached topo fiile.

Yes, snow chains are required on a type of run such as this but really, making a 6,000+ lb rig act like a snowmobile is basically an act in futility. When we were winching ourselves, two snow mobiles just went around us like nobody bidness.

I think using large lug tire chains, logging chains will get you further in before turning around. Any chains that are "comfortable" to use on the hwy are not the ticket for deep sierra cement.

It was good to meet new faces and have a blast. If nothing else, we practiced good winching techniques

Pics of my predicament!

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Who's rig is that reddish one, with the lights on the rack? I think I recognize it from the parking lot at work.


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Who's rig is that reddish one, with the lights on the rack? I think I recognize it from the parking lot at work.

First name is Patrick...don't know his last name; goes by PATTHO on 'MUD. This was his first run with BBCNN.


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Cool pics guys! I don't have any.... well, except the one I took of Dan's truck as "evidence" just in case

Hopefully my buddy paul can send me the pictures he took. I know he also has some cool videos too. One of them is a pretty cool on he took standing on my truck while Dan went by with the pedal mashed.


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Looks like a good run. Sorry we missed it.


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Awesome pics Dan.
I see the faint outline of a dog in that one pic...Funny how you can see shapes in the snow like that.
SOOOOO, were the chains the HOT ITEM to have?
I mean did they make all the difference?
I had never run chains, and was curious.

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Chains are a beautiful thing with 3foot of snow, i think the logging type chains would work better than what most of us had thou (normal chains/cables for hwy) but definitely helped
They are also great on when the trails get icy like peavine and such

p.s. I work at IGT if thats the parking lot your thinking of

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Chains are a beautiful thing with 3foot of snow, i think the logging type chains would work better than what most of us had thou (normal chains/cables for hwy) but definitely helped
They are also great on when the trails get icy like peavine and such

p.s. I work at IGT if thats the parking lot your thinking of
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here's one of the videos... Dan passing me after I got sucked into the ditch
YouTube - BBCNN snow run 3/7/09

and some pics...

http://photobucket.com/nvlitrebike


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here's one of the videos... Dan passing me after I got sucked into the ditch
YouTube - BBCNN snow run 3/7/09

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http://photobucket.com/nvlitrebike

Nice vid and pics! But no pic of my Hundy getting strapped out by your Disco? Kind...very kind.


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Great photos. Some of those really show the depth of the snow. Too bad they don't show that it is Sierra Cement.

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Me thinks that the Hundy needs a series 50 Flowmaster.....


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haha, don't worry Dan, it's on my cell phone

he said he had two more videos so I'll see if they uploaded.


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Ok you guys, we made it EXACTLY 1.02 miles from the staging area where the Subaru Outback was parked Are we a bunch of losers or what!!! LOL..

Check out the attached topo fiile.

Yes, snow chains are required on a type of run such as this but really, making a 6,000+ lb rig act like a snowmobile is basically an act in futility. When we were winching ourselves, two snow mobiles just went around us like nobody bidness.

I think using large lug tire chains, logging chains will get you further in before turning around. Any chains that are "comfortable" to use on the hwy are not the ticket for deep sierra cement.

It was good to meet new faces and have a blast. If nothing else, we practiced good winching techniques

Pics of my predicament!

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Hey Jack. Just picture my old flatbed diesel, with a 4 horse gooseneck trailer on the back loaded with livestock and you can see what I grew up doing.

It was about 25 miles from town to the ranch going from 6K ft to 10K ft elevation. Would usually take us about 2 hours to break trail through drifts hood deep, scattered every mile or so. Then we would hit a little road not much bigger than the one you were on for another 15 miles. Then we would get to one like you were on. I remember working from daylight to midnight more than once dragging cows down off that mountain through snow that was just like the pics you guys posted. The kind that once you spin, it turns into ice and the only way through is sheer brute force and big HD tire chains.

Nice pics and vid. Wish I coulda been there, seeing those pics really brings back some memories. You know, the ones that involve long walks on moonlit nights, carrying gas cans cause you broke trail till you ran out of gas 10 miles from the nearest station. Shoveling snow for 1/4 mile so you can drag some dumb cow down off the mountain before she starves....... Things like that make me glad I have a "real" job nowadays...

BTW, I've got a set of those big tire chains, sure would have come in handy up there.
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Hey Jack. Just picture my old flatbed diesel, with a 4 horse gooseneck trailer on the back loaded with livestock and you can see what I grew up doing.

It was about 25 miles from town to the ranch going from 6K ft to 10K ft elevation. Would usually take us about 2 hours to break trail through drifts hood deep, scattered every mile or so. Then we would hit a little road not much bigger than the one you were on for another 15 miles. Then we would get to one like you were on. I remember working from daylight to midnight more than once dragging cows down off that mountain through snow that was just like the pics you guys posted. The kind that once you spin, it turns into ice and the only way through is sheer brute force and big HD tire chains.

Nice pics and vid. Wish I coulda been there, seeing those pics really brings back some memories. You know, the ones that involve long walks on moonlit nights, carrying gas cans cause you broke trail till you ran out of gas 10 miles from the nearest station. Shoveling snow for 1/4 mile so you can drag some dumb cow down off the mountain before she starves....... Things like that make me glad I have a "real" job nowadays...

BTW, I've got a set of those big tire chains, sure would have come in handy up there.
Yep, I just confirmed that I am glad that I didn't/don't have to do things like that.

This snow was just too soft, the temperature was too warm for the depth of the snow. If it had been or stayed colder even when it was snowing, we wouldn't have had any problems. Because it was warm the snow was very tough to get through.

We definitely needed some larger chains. I wished that you could have been there also, I would have liked to have seen the ram opened up with some big chains.

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Big chains can mean broken drive train parts! Sometimes it is better to have the "fuse" a little higher in the parts breakage chain (no pun intended...but...). When the snow gets past 24" deep you need a different kinda rig than any of us have .


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Big chains can mean broken drive train parts! Sometimes it is better to have the "fuse" a little higher in the parts breakage chain (no pun intended...but...). When the snow gets past 24" deep you need a different kinda rig than any of us have .
True but the problem is snow is fun to bog thru!

Atleast until you get stuck and break stuff and its cold and you have to dig and walk miles thru it, other than that its great (aka go with 2-3 people with recovery gear to avoid this)
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