Rusty executive decision!?

[rusty_tlc]

Originally Posted by DesertLake

Why will the autos be better than selectables on the 40?

(Gittin my learn on)

One less thing to think about. They are just there and work. The disadvantage is they can get the front end bound up when they lock while in an obstacle. The solution is to grind out the shift gate so you can stay in low gear but shift into 2WD long enough to line back up. The 40 has a twin stick set up so I can already do that. Or I can do a hydro assist. The PS box on my 40 is tapped for hydro and I have the ram and all the stuff to set it up.

[rusty_tlc]

Originally Posted by CaliCruiser

Why do you need lower gears in your 40, don't you still have the toybox and Orion?

It would be ideal to have the 4.88's and ARB's in the 60 with the 4.11's and detroits in the 40 IMO. It would keep a stonger gear set in the 40 (more hardcore rig) and give you some good grunt in the 60 for the occasional hard trail. Unfortunetly this means swapping ring and pinions and introduces $$ into the picture.
I hate decisions like this. . .

Dylan

Lower gears in the differential would reduce stress on the axles and birfields, and I could go to a larger tire size and still have reasonable gearing for the paved roads.
The sixty will be used for longer trips so the higher gearing will be better.

[rusty_tlc]

Originally Posted by chicago

Im gonna take a stab and say that it is because the 40 is primarily on the more heavy duty TRAILS where lockers are pretty much always used. So less of a need for OPEN diffs.
The beauty of the selectable locker is the ability to have open diffs on the road, and lock em up when on the trail.
the 60 (from what it seems) will be used for more distance/ expedition type wheeling where there will not be a need for full time lockers.
Why not use the ARB's on both...theyre FU*KING EXPENSIVE. Most people would love to have ARB's, but theyre cost prohibitive. Personally, I LOVE my auto lockers, expecially in the rear. However, I compromised on the front. I would actaully preferred ARB's in the front, but I didnt want to spend the money. If you do Longs, a lunchbox locker (aussie, lockright) AAAAAND a basic hydro assist youll STILL be money ahead than what an arb with install and longs would cost.
So, when I do my V8, Ill be adding the ram assist too.

Something like that...

K

That too.

[locrwln1]

Originally Posted by rusty_tlc

I think my brain has formulated a plan. Being kind of a small pot it took awhile to percolate a plan in it. I'm just going to throw it out here to see what the collective wisdom thinks about it.

I think what I'm going to do is swap the differentials with the 4.88 gears and Detroit lockers from the FJ60 into the FJ40 and the differentials with the ARB lockers with the 4.11 gears from the FJ40 into the FJ60.

Here is why;

The FJ40 needs lower gearing because I want to go to a larger tire size, the FJ60 needs higher gearing because it will see a lot more highway miles.

The auto lockers will be a lot easier to deal with on a mostly trail rig, actually they may be better than selectable lockers on the FJ40.

The FJ40 has Longfields which will take the auto locker "snap" better than the stock birfs on the FJ60

It's basically free, all it will cost is a few gallons of gear lube and some Permatex gasket maker.

Comments?

That is exactly what I would do.

The tired 2f in the 40 will really appreciate the additional gearing for the highway, plus the 60 will do a better job of pulling the trailer/highway runs.

Jack

[rusty_tlc]

I need to make sure the drive shaft flanges will work.

[locrwln1]

Originally Posted by rusty_tlc

I need to make sure the drive shaft flanges will work.

Just rotate the drive shaft 90 degrees, mark and drill new holes for the flanges to bolt up to.

Jack

[rusty_tlc]

Originally Posted by locrwln1

Just rotate the drive shaft 90 degrees, mark and drill new holes for the flanges to bolt up to.

Jack

I should be okay, the companion flanges on the FJ40 diffs are the one size fits all style from High Angle. The front DS on the 40 has stock flanges and the rear has a one size fits all flange on the diff side. It's just one of those things I'd like to make sure of before I start draining 90WT and pulling the diffs.

[rusty_tlc]

A couple of things.
After actually taking the rig through Eldorado I don't think I want to screw with it. It drives fine off road and even though it's slow I can live with driving it on the highway.

I did bash one of the rockers a little on the trip. A set of sliders is in the back of the truck ready for install.

I wonder who could weld them on for me?????????????

[chicago]

What sliders did you get?

K

[rusty_tlc]

Originally Posted by chicago

What sliders did you get?

K

Trail gear.
They were cheap and it gave me a chance to give ORI some business.

[450 DUDE]

ahhhh man! you supported tg?

ken

[rusty_tlc]

Originally Posted by 450 DUDE

ahhhh man! you supported tg?

ken

What is up with the heart burn everybody has with TG?

[slvrbck]

Originally Posted by rusty_tlc

What is up with the heart burn everybody has with TG?

They call it Trail Mart.......

[Cruiserdrew]

Originally Posted by slvrbck

They call it Trail Mart.......

Or China Trail.



I think it's basically that they ahem,,"borrowed" the designs and ideas of Marlin and opened on their own, building bits and parts cheeply in China. Notice their sliders are essentially exact copies of Marlin's and sell for $100 less. Marlin's though are DOM and Trail Gears are Chinese mystery metal that in some cases is iron based and attracts a magnet.

Marlin's main dude for awhile, jumped ship, and went to work for TG, though I understnd he is now out of TG due to a dispute there. Lots of bad blood in the Mini-truck world.

Me personally have no beef with TG. I bought the 6 stud knuckles from them when no one else was offering a similar solution. Now you can make add on 6 stud knuckles with parts from 4x4 Labs.

[slvrbck]

Yep, that's about it....it's true, there is a lotta drama in the LBC.

[rusty_tlc]

So how long was Marlin working on the six stud knuckles with no product for sale?

In my world you better be ready to take advantage of the sales opportunities before you start promoting a product.


Based on the weight of the package whatever TG made my sliders out of they didn't skimp on the quantity of material. I guess time will tell if they are sturdy or not, the die has been cast.

[chicago]

I had the opportunity to see them Friday over at Rusty's...Theyre BEEFY for sure.
Theyll do great. I have no doubts.

K