locrwln's new ride.... - Page 3

locrwln1 · 02-07-09, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by slvrbck

I saw that axle on there the other day, not a bad deal.

I wish you would have bought this thing last year when I still had my 84 4Runner. I had all kinds of parts for those things. A few extra drivetrain parts, 22RE long blocks(not that it matters because of your v-6), and a bunch of other junk.

I wished that I wouldn't have gotten rid of my 4runner, because not only was it well built, but I had a ton of extra parts. I sent them all out with the truck when I sold it. Now I have to start the process all over again.

Jack

spressomon · 02-07-09, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by locrwln1

I wished that I wouldn't have gotten rid of my 4runner, because not only was it well built, but I had a ton of extra parts. I sent them all out with the truck when I sold it. Now I have to start the process all over again.

Jack

But think of it this way: The current economy will benefit from you buying all those parts...again.

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slvrbck · 02-08-09, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by locrwln1

I wished that I wouldn't have gotten rid of my 4runner, because not only was it well built, but I had a ton of extra parts. I sent them all out with the truck when I sold it. Now I have to start the process all over again.

Jack

The process of starting over can be fun, wheelin' and dealin' and what not!

locrwln1 · 02-08-09, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by spressomon

But think of it this way: The current economy will benefit from you buying all those parts...again.

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Originally Posted by slvrbck

The process of starting over can be fun, wheelin' and dealin' and what not!

Ummm, yeah...

Jack

chicago · 02-09-09, 07:38 AM

so where are you with it NOW Jack?
The nice thing for you at least is that most ALL of the parts (barring the crawl box, longs and such) are typically being sold by KIDS looking for some beer money...
I once posted a parts list on CL, and got some responses from folks who had some shit laying around...

K

locrwln1 · 02-09-09, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chicago

so where are you with it NOW Jack?
The nice thing for you at least is that most ALL of the parts (barring the crawl box, longs and such) are typically being sold by KIDS looking for some beer money...
I once posted a parts list on CL, and got some responses from folks who had some shit laying around...

K

Things are kind of on hold, I will be replacing the headgasket on the landcruiser at the end of this month, so my extra money is going toward that. The headgasket is preventive only, the LC is running great, just don't want any problems in the middle of nowhere. Besides I can get the injectors cleaned up, etc.

Believe me, I am always on the scan for cheap parts. Although, I might have waited too late, it seems like most of the good stuff is already been sold. But I am keeping my eyes open.

I really don't expect to have the truck done this summer, I am gathering parts and it will ready when it's ready. Trying to take my time and find the deals.

Jack

rusty_tlc · 02-09-09, 10:12 AM

With the economy the way it is you may be finding more and more deals.

slvrbck · 02-09-09, 05:09 PM

Hey Jack, I'm just sayin'..........

Trail-Gear Inc > Trail-Link Suspension

Dang, I forgot, THINK CHEAP!!!

locrwln1 · 02-09-09, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rusty_tlc

With the economy the way it is you may be finding more and more deals.

You might be right. For my sake, let's hope.

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Originally Posted by slvrbck

Hey Jack, I'm just sayin'..........

Trail-Gear Inc > Trail-Link Suspension

Dang, I forgot, THINK CHEAP!!!

Yes, embrace the cheap...I am trying. Though I am finding that by the time I piece everything together, I might be better off buying a full suspension kit (leaf spring) from somone like TG. When I work it out on paper, I am not saving that much money by piecing springs together.

Just they way it is I guess.

Jack

24HOURSOFNEVADA · 02-10-09, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by slvrbck

Hey Jack, I'm just sayin'..........

Trail-Gear Inc > Trail-Link Suspension

Dang, I forgot, THINK CHEAP!!!

That is cheap for a link set-up. The articulation looks great. Too bad it's from Trail-Mart.

slvrbck · 02-10-09, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 24HOURSOFNEVADA

That is cheap for a link set-up. The articulation looks great. Too bad it's from Trail-Mart.

Yeah, I have never bought anything from them, but more and more people are. ORI just finished putting one of their 3 links on a guys mini, and it looks sick!!

DirtyHarry · 02-10-09, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 24HOURSOFNEVADA

That is cheap for a link set-up. The articulation looks great. Too bad it's from Trail-Mart.

I am with Jereme on this one.

rusty_tlc · 02-10-09, 09:56 AM

Cruiserdrew used the TG six shooters on his SOA Fj60. It will be interesting to see how they work out. He said the fit and finish were good.

chicago · 02-10-09, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by slvrbck

Hey Jack, I'm just sayin'..........

Trail-Gear Inc > Trail-Link Suspension

Dang, I forgot, THINK CHEAP!!!

FAAAAWK!

chicago · 02-10-09, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by locrwln1

You might be right. For my sake, let's hope.

Yes, embrace the cheap...I am trying. Though I am finding that by the time I piece everything together, I might be better off buying a full suspension kit (leaf spring) from somone like TG. When I work it out on paper, I am not saving that much money by piecing springs together.

Just they way it is I guess.

Jack

I guess it all comes down to where it WORTH cutting the corners and saving some bucks.
I had always thought that the spring kits were pretty cheap for the minis?
I guess now a days that is a relative term...
Are you gonna do the gears yourself?

K

slvrbck · 02-10-09, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chicago

I guess it all comes down to where it WORTH cutting the corners and saving some bucks.
I had always thought that the spring kits were pretty cheap for the minis?
I guess now a days that is a relative term...
Are you gonna do the gears yourself?

K

Spring kits are cheap, depending on which one you buy. You can get a standard 4 inch kit from a decent company from $300 and up. But with higher prices come higher quality.

Case in point:

1979-'85 Extreme Lift

I love minis, and this was the kit I was about to throw down for on my 4Runner......then I got a cruiser........

chicago · 02-10-09, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by slvrbck

Spring kits are cheap, depending on which one you buy. You can get a standard 4 inch kit from a decent company from $300 and up. But with higher prices come higher quality.

Case in point:

1979-'85 Extreme Lift

I love minis, and this was the kit I was about to throw down for on my 4Runner......then I got a cruiser........

Just like everything in automobiles!
Initially, everything seems really straight forward, but when you get into things...
It also seems to depend on what will get you by vs. doing it right the first time. You can redneck engineer most anything to WORK, but questioning the set up thereafter is NOT worth the cost saving IMO. Like running trail fixes as a permanent solution...no good!
In the end, its NOT just YOU who breaks down on the trail. That's the very reason that Ill save up the extra cash to do the tranny RIGHT (to the very best that I know how).
Id LOVE to get a 3rd gen 4 runner, SAS it and build it up. They can be found with blown motors for rather cheap. However, Ive got the BLUE TITANIC to contend with...

K

alia176 · 02-10-09, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by locrwln1

I wished that I wouldn't have gotten rid of my 4runner, because not only was it well built, but I had a ton of extra parts. I sent them all out with the truck when I sold it. Now I have to start the process all over again.

Jack

You know, you're kinda slow at this...you did it AGAIN with the LX

rusty_tlc · 02-11-09, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by alia176

You know, you're kinda slow at this...you did it AGAIN with the LX

Shhhhhh!
I'm waiting for him to finish this one so I can buy it.

locrwln1 · 02-11-09, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chicago

I guess it all comes down to where it WORTH cutting the corners and saving some bucks.
I had always thought that the spring kits were pretty cheap for the minis?
I guess now a days that is a relative term...
Are you gonna do the gears yourself?

K

Spring kits for minis aren't bad for what you get. That is the problem that I am running into, by the time I source the springs, fix/build them, buy/build the other parts, etc. I am just not saving that much money for something that may or may not work that well.

Sometimes you have to figure what your time is worth. Is it worth my time to save a little money and add tremendously to the headache of it or just buy something that you know will work?

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Originally Posted by slvrbck

Spring kits are cheap, depending on which one you buy. You can get a standard 4 inch kit from a decent company from $300 and up. But with higher prices come higher quality.

Case in point:

1979-'85 Extreme Lift

I love minis, and this was the kit I was about to throw down for on my 4Runner......then I got a cruiser........

I used Allpro on my 4runner, I was not that happy with it. My runner had a very pronounced passenger side lean that really irritated me. I finally had to put an add a leaf into the spring pack on the rear passenger side to get rid of the lean. I am not the only one that has had that problem with allpro springs. By the way, that picture of John in his 4runner is coming down Surprise Canyon.

You have to go with one of the "rock crawling" springs, the "lift" springs kill your articulation and ride like crap.

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Originally Posted by chicago

Just like everything in automobiles!
Initially, everything seems really straight forward, but when you get into things...
It also seems to depend on what will get you by vs. doing it right the first time. You can redneck engineer most anything to WORK, but questioning the set up thereafter is NOT worth the cost saving IMO. Like running trail fixes as a permanent solution...no good!
In the end, its NOT just YOU who breaks down on the trail. That's the very reason that Ill save up the extra cash to do the tranny RIGHT (to the very best that I know how).
Id LOVE to get a 3rd gen 4 runner, SAS it and build it up. They can be found with blown motors for rather cheap. However, Ive got the BLUE TITANIC to contend with...

K

I agree about doing it right, I have never been and I don't want to be "that" guy. I have always tried to build my rigs to be able to run the hard stuff and not break. So far I have succeeded. I have never broke anything offroad (where is the knock on wood emoticon?). Trail repairs suck.

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Originally Posted by alia176

You know, you're kinda slow at this...you did it AGAIN with the LX

Shaddup you!

I know I am a retard. Someday, I hope I learn...someday.

Jack

chicago · 02-11-09, 12:17 PM

Ive been that guy!

YOU came and saved me.

You're MY HERO!

K

locrwln1 · 02-12-09, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chicago

Are you gonna do the gears yourself?

K

I forgot to answer that question, in short, no. I am going to use the thirds out of 90-95 4runner/pickups with the auto and v6. Some of them came with 4.56's and 4.88's from the factory. The 4.88's are unique, but the 4.56's which should work perfectly with Drippy (non overdrive tranny) and 37's use the same housing as all of the other mini v6 thirds. I found a rearend at PNP, but I didn't have time to get it, I'm sure its gone now, but they are out there.

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Originally Posted by chicago

Ive been that guy!

YOU came and saved me.

You're MY HERO!

K

I'm just glad someone can learn from my mistakes.

Jack

450 DUDE · 02-12-09, 10:58 AM

Good luck on the "cheep" I have learned that I just do not have the skilz or the ability to do "cheep"

ken

locrwln1 · 02-12-09, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 450 DUDE

Good luck on the "cheep" I have learned that I just do not have the skilz or the ability to do "cheep"

ken

Yeah, I'm having a real hard time not going overboard with this one. There is so much I could do, but I keep reminding myself, cheap as I can and still make it right.

Jack

alia176 · 02-14-09, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by locrwln1

Yeah, I'm having a real hard time not going overboard with this one. There is so much I could do, but I keep reminding myself, cheap as I can and still make it right.

Jack

Oh don't worry bro, I'll be the NAG that'll keep you on the straight and narrow path to cheapness

krokarthecrooked · 02-14-09, 11:45 AM

Hey Jack have you thought about doing a half elipticall set up with your stock springs you would keep stock spirings and add the half set up it can be pinned while on road and unpinned offroad just a thought and it is cheap way to get Flex for the rear anyway

Dan

rusty_tlc · 02-14-09, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by krokarthecrooked

Hey Jack have you thought about doing a half elipticall set up with your stock springs you would keep stock spirings and add the half set up it can be pinned while on road and unpinned offroad just a thought and it is cheap way to get Flex for the rear anyway

Dan

That's a scary setup when it unloads on a steep down hill.

slvrbck · 02-15-09, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rusty_tlc

that's a scary setup when it unloads on a steep down hill.

a$$ over tea kettle!!!!!

locrwln1 · 02-15-09, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by krokarthecrooked

Hey Jack have you thought about doing a half elipticall set up with your stock springs you would keep stock spirings and add the half set up it can be pinned while on road and unpinned offroad just a thought and it is cheap way to get Flex for the rear anyway

Dan

No, I will stick to a traditional set up. I have never seen any of the "buggy" spring or double shackle type systems work, other than on the ramp. They always unload or do something else you don't want them to. Not worth the negatives and they have little to no positives.

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Originally Posted by rusty_tlc

That's a scary setup when it unloads on a steep down hill.

Among others problems.

Jack

WILLD420 · 02-15-09, 12:45 PM

When it comes to vehicles, I have to remember what my dad always told me about racing cars. KISS. He tried every bolt on available when he was building his old mustang. He worked on a race team that had factory backing and an unlimited budget for any toy you could imagine.

They always kept coming back to just how much bang for the buck you got from using the factory designed stuff. Ladder bars, 4 Link's etc, they had more consistent results using factory leaf sprung suspension and a set of bolt on traction bars. Everything else they tried uncovered other weaknesses in the chassis. They spent a full year tubbing the car, back halving, adding a huge cage and all they managed to do was make the car so tight that it was almost uncontrollable for the first 200' down the track. Prior to all that work, the car was a handful but wasn't unmanageable.

When I started building 4x4's he told me stories of all the stuff they did back in the early 70's. Many of those statements still ring true. Sure, ellipticals, buggy springs etc. whatever you want to call them... They flex great and sure do absorb the bumps at high speed, but they come with some interesting handling issues.

Bottom line for me. KISS, if you aren't racing it. Racing for big bucks is different, you have to run top of the line, latest and greatest if you are competing against the big bucks teams. When 1/20th of a second, or an inch determines winner or loser, you can't go cheap. On the other hand, simple works for recreational use. It will even compete pretty well with the big bucks stuff if you know your rig like the back of your hand.

Jack can back me on this. How else do you explain a 5,000lb 4 door sedan that can not only catch, but out perform a car 1/2 it's weight, but driven by someone who doesn't understand vehicle dynamics and doesn't care to.