Cruiser Down

locrwln1 · 07-01-08, 09:45 AM

As Will eluded to in his Deer Valley post, my cruiser is down.

I was getting a pretty loud growl on deceleration, even after having the driveshafts re-balanced. Well the drive to and from Deer Valley finished it off.

I had changed the oil on Friday before the trip and as I was lubing the dshafts, I noticed that the front pinion had some play in it (actually I had noticed when I re-installed the d-shafts after the re-balance). The t-case side is tight, the rear shaft is tight at both the t-case and rear diff are also tight. The front pinion has probably a 1-2mm movement in all directions, so the pinion bearing must have gotten damaged on one of the removal/installation cycles.

As you all know, to get the third out, I have to completely tear the front axle apart (my favorite)

. So I will have to get the parts ordered, pull everything apart and haul the third down to Sean and have him do the repair.

I think the Toyota gods hate me...

Jack

rusty_tlc · 07-01-08, 10:48 AM

Bummer.

Give a shout if you need help, I owe you some garage time.

alia176 · 07-01-08, 12:09 PM

dude,

That blows - sorry to hear that. Other than the oem pinion seal, what else you need from Toy? The bearings and races can be sourced locally if you can figure out the Timken p/ns.

I don't envy you one bit! On the other hand, hopefully that'll solve your vibes once and for all. As usual, I'll be with you EVERY step of the way...in spirit!

Don't what you did in your past life but we gotta work on your Toyota juju.....

locrwln1 · 07-01-08, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rusty_tlc

Bummer.

Give a shout if you need help, I owe you some garage time.

I agree. I'll let you know, as you know, it's not hard work just messy and time consuming.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alia176

dude,

That blows - sorry to hear that. Other than the oem pinion seal, what else you need from Toy? The bearings and races can be sourced locally if you can figure out the Timken p/ns.

I don't envy you one bit! On the other hand, hopefully that'll solve your vibes once and for all. As usual, I'll be with you EVERY step of the way...in spirit!

Don't what you did in your past life but we gotta work on your Toyota juju.....

The only parts needed are the bearing/race, oil retaining ring thing-a-ma-bob, and pinion seal.

I am hoping that this has been the source of the vibrations also, it would be nice if it does fix it.

I don't envy me a bit either.

I don't know what I did either, but I would like it to stop.

Jack

450 DUDE · 07-01-08, 04:39 PM

Huummmm Jack should have just recieved positive Toyota Juju???

Sorry to hear.

ken

Bbumbl40 · 07-01-08, 10:27 PM

DOH!!!

Are you using a crush sleeve or shims?

chicago · 07-01-08, 11:35 PM

Jack!
You got me for what ever you need! I owe you BIG TIME!
Sorry to hear youre down for a spell, though!
That is the diff you had done?

K

DesertLake · 07-02-08, 06:50 AM

Jack, If you can use an extra set of untrained hands let me know.

locrwln1 · 07-02-08, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 450 DUDE

Huummmm Jack should have just recieved positive Toyota Juju???

Sorry to hear.

ken

Let us hope and thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bbumbl40

DOH!!!

Are you using a crush sleeve or shims?

The front has collar/shim setup

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicago

Jack!
You got me for what ever you need! I owe you BIG TIME!
Sorry to hear youre down for a spell, though!
That is the diff you had done?

K

It is the diff that I had done, but I don't blame Sean, I had pressed it on and off a few times before I took it to him, so I am sure that between one of us (most likely me) it got damaged. It just wasn't a noticable thing at first. Time/mileage finished it off.

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Originally Posted by DesertLake

Jack, If you can use an extra set of untrained hands let me know.

Thanks for all of the offers guys, I appreciate it.

Jack

WILLD420 · 07-03-08, 10:04 AM

Wanna buy a Ramcharger???? Taillights are on the way.... You could be wheeling in a week without any gear oil smell.

Of course, the 8 mpg kinda sucks....

locrwln1 · 07-03-08, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WILLD420

Wanna buy a Ramcharger???? Taillights are on the way.... You could be wheeling in a week without any gear oil smell.

Of course, the 8 mpg kinda sucks....

You are a funny guy.

Jack

locrwln1 · 07-05-08, 07:49 PM

Axle teardown is complete and parts have been ordered.

Unfortunately, I won't be able get the third down to Sean until the 18th or 19th.

Jack

chicago · 07-06-08, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by locrwln1

Axle teardown is complete and parts have been ordered.

Unfortunately, I won't be able get the third down to Sean until the 18th or 19th.

Jack

Jack,
Where is the guy located in Sac?
Im going to be down there next weekend (Fri, Sat) Maybe I can drop it off for you and save you the trip, and get you up and rolling sooner!

Lemme know!

K

spressomon · 07-06-08, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicago

Jack,
Where is the guy located in Sac?
Im going to be down there next weekend (Fri, Sat) Maybe I can drop it off for you and save you the trip, and get you up and rolling sooner!

Lemme know!

K

Keith: Are you going to OysterFest? Ken is going down, I think, on Thursday...we'll be down there Saturday and Sunday (camping at Bodega Dunes). I'll be at the PMC swap meet in Petaluma on Saturday...

chicago · 07-06-08, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spressomon

Keith: Are you going to OysterFest? Ken is going down, I think, on Thursday...we'll be down there Saturday and Sunday (camping at Bodega Dunes). I'll be at the PMC swap meet in Petaluma on Saturday...

Naw,
Mrs.Chicago is doing a bodybuilding/ figure competition down there in Sac.
Dont back into anything this time!

K

spressomon · 07-07-08, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicago

Naw,
Mrs.Chicago is doing a bodybuilding/ figure competition down there in Sac.
Dont back into anything this time!

K

No $hit! That was a costly mistake I don't want to repeat anytime

.

locrwln1 · 07-09-08, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicago

Jack,
Where is the guy located in Sac?
Im going to be down there next weekend (Fri, Sat) Maybe I can drop it off for you and save you the trip, and get you up and rolling sooner!

Lemme know!

K

I appreciate the offer, but I don't think my parts will be in by this weekend. Everything except the star washers had to be ordered. Not too many people have pinion problems I guess, which is a good sign (I hope).

Jack

chicago · 07-09-08, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by locrwln1

I appreciate the offer, but I don't think my parts will be in by this weekend. Everything except the star washers had to be ordered. Not too many people have pinion problems I guess, which is a good sign (I hope).

Jack

That's too bad!
Now that you mention the parts, I do recally you saying that earilier in this post....
Im kinda BLONDE sometimes...

K

Cruiserdrew · 07-10-08, 12:59 AM

If you want to send that diff down with Dan, I'll see him at Oysterfest and I'll get the diff to Sean on Monday. He can get the parts in real time from West Coast if needed.

locrwln1 · 07-10-08, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicago

That's too bad!
Now that you mention the parts, I do recally you saying that earilier in this post....
Im kinda BLONDE sometimes...

K

No worries, you are not the only one...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruiserdrew

If you want to send that diff down with Dan, I'll see him at Oysterfest and I'll get the diff to Sean on Monday. He can get the parts in real time from West Coast if needed.

I really appreciate the offer Andy. I should have the parts either today (Thursday) or Friday, unfortunately, I am packing up tonight and leaving first thing tomorrow morning for Great Basin NP. I won't have the time to get the diff/parts to Dan before I leave.

I will just head down next Friday and drop it off to Sean, hopefully, he can do it while I wait.

Then I have the weekend to put everything back together.

Jack

locrwln1 · 07-15-08, 06:33 AM

Parts are in, will be heading down on Friday morning for the fix. I also ordered some of Marlin's Heavy Duty Axle seals.

Couple of more days...

Jack

spressomon · 07-15-08, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by locrwln1

Parts are in, will be heading down on Friday morning for the fix. I also ordered some of Marlin's Heavy Duty Axle seals.

Couple of more days...

Jack

Dang...if I'd only known...Marlin was at the PMC swap meet. Alvaro picked up the same seals from him that day.

locrwln1 · 07-15-08, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spressomon

Dang...if I'd only known...Marlin was at the PMC swap meet. Alvaro picked up the same seals from him that day.

I didn't even know Marlin had them until Sunday night, so no worries, I ordered a few other items as well.

Jack

chicago · 07-15-08, 11:17 AM

Thats good news Jack!
Whens the next run?
Im awaiting my seals from Marlin as well. I hope theyre as good as everyone raves about. I HATE my knuckles leaking from that damn seal!

K

locrwln1 · 07-15-08, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicago

Thats good news Jack!
Whens the next run?
Im awaiting my seals from Marlin as well. I hope theyre as good as everyone raves about. I HATE my knuckles leaking from that damn seal!

K

Nothing hardcore planned for runs.

I hope the seals are as good as everyone says as well. Mine are only about 5k miles old, but if these are that good, then why not? I know that with the stockers on the 80's, they can last anywhere from 60-100k, but still, better is better.

Jack

07-01-08, 09:45 AM	#1
locrwln1 Addicted to MUD Porn Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Reno, NV TLCA# 16879 Posts: 1,374	Cruiser Down As Will eluded to in his Deer Valley post, my cruiser is down. I was getting a pretty loud growl on deceleration, even after having the driveshafts re-balanced. Well the drive to and from Deer Valley finished it off. I had changed the oil on Friday before the trip and as I was lubing the dshafts, I noticed that the front pinion had some play in it (actually I had noticed when I re-installed the d-shafts after the re-balance). The t-case side is tight, the rear shaft is tight at both the t-case and rear diff are also tight. The front pinion has probably a 1-2mm movement in all directions, so the pinion bearing must have gotten damaged on one of the removal/installation cycles. As you all know, to get the third out, I have to completely tear the front axle apart (my favorite) . So I will have to get the parts ordered, pull everything apart and haul the third down to Sean and have him do the repair. I think the Toyota gods hate me... Jack __________________ KE7NCK 1996 FZJ 80 (explorer) 2002 F350, PSD, 6SPD,4X4,CC, LWB (hauler) 1995 Mazda MX-6 (speedster)

07-01-08, 12:09 PM	#3
alia176 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tijeras, NM TLCA# 15941 Posts: 3,390 Blog Entries: 1	dude, That blows - sorry to hear that. Other than the oem pinion seal, what else you need from Toy? The bearings and races can be sourced locally if you can figure out the Timken p/ns. I don't envy you one bit! On the other hand, hopefully that'll solve your vibes once and for all. As usual, I'll be with you EVERY step of the way...in spirit! Don't what you did in your past life but we gotta work on your Toyota juju..... __________________ TLCA # 15941 KE5LED Currently working PA

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locrwln1 Addicted to MUD Porn Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Reno, NV TLCA# 16879 Posts: 1,374	Axle teardown is complete and parts have been ordered. Unfortunately, I won't be able get the third down to Sean until the 18th or 19th. Jack __________________ KE7NCK 1996 FZJ 80 (explorer) 2002 F350, PSD, 6SPD,4X4,CC, LWB (hauler) 1995 Mazda MX-6 (speedster)

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Cruiserdrew KI6MIE Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA TLCA# 11734 Posts: 6,978	If you want to send that diff down with Dan, I'll see him at Oysterfest and I'll get the diff to Sean on Monday. He can get the parts in real time from West Coast if needed. __________________ Andrew 1971 FJ-40 Rubicon tested, 2F powered, some mods 1976 FJ40 Rusting slowly in the back yard 1984 FJ-60 H55f, 4.11, OME, Daily Driver 1989 FJ-62 117k-son's driver for now-low and slow 1997 FZJ-80 Driveway queen

07-15-08, 06:33 AM	#21
locrwln1 Addicted to MUD Porn Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Reno, NV TLCA# 16879 Posts: 1,374	Parts are in, will be heading down on Friday morning for the fix. I also ordered some of Marlin's Heavy Duty Axle seals. Couple of more days... Jack __________________ KE7NCK 1996 FZJ 80 (explorer) 2002 F350, PSD, 6SPD,4X4,CC, LWB (hauler) 1995 Mazda MX-6 (speedster)

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chicago IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 3,119	Thats good news Jack! Whens the next run? Im awaiting my seals from Marlin as well. I hope theyre as good as everyone raves about. I HATE my knuckles leaking from that damn seal! K __________________ TLCA#16202, KE7VAT Toyota family: 88 FJ62 (Fairly built) 06 4runner...wifes rig! 06 Tacoma, DD, BONE STOCK and staying that way! PROUD member of the WEST COAST BLOTCHERS and the Battle Born Cruisers of Northern Nevada! FAWKING CUBS! Life long DISAPPOINTMENT!