M1911

This is not a restriction on owners flipping it for profit. It is Toyota’s trying to respond to their vehicles quickly ending up on the hands of warlords. It looks overbearing and like the lawyers got paid by the word...

But Lexus isn't party to this contract and it has nothing in it about flipping. Read the text.

Read that again. There is nothing about flipping, just about export.

Is this just the dealer doing this or is Lexus pushing this?

I believe so.

Load of bull. For durability I’ll put my money on the 300 all day over the unproven, ‘light-duty’ 250.

If you're crawling through snow drifts then he's correct. Part time will be on and there won't be much difference. However at highways speeds with sketchy traction where part time really isn't appropriate, full time is a significantly better solution

Snow country here and a strong proponent of full-time 4WD. It's safer, easier, and more predictable. All our cars are, and have been for decades.

Having driven Toyota SUVs with full-time 4WD (4th Gen 4Runner Limited and 200 Series Land Cruiser) in New England for the past 20 years, I agree completely. I greatly prefer full-time 4WD over part-time.

Most of the at fault SUV accidents in my family would have been prevented with full-time 4wd. Until you live with it you can't really appreciate how amazing it is.

Trying to argue against full time 4WD in a land cruiser forum is not something I predicted.

Dedicated snow tires for everything we own. Having a full time system is far more convenient as it’s always engaged. I’m constantly transitioning between snowpack, mixed, wet pavement and back no need to shift in and out of part time.

But I thought only the 70 series were "real" land cruisers?

GX guys been doing this for years. We know it would not be accepted as real Land Cruiser. But somehow we love it more due: 1. Cheaper 2. Smaller 3. Nimbler https://www.etsy.com/listing/1636260019/land-cruiser-ish-white-sticker-decal

I think I’ll put one on my 200 that says “it’s basically just a Highlander”. ;)

I guess I didn't explain what I meant clearly enough. I meant from Toyota's perspective of manufacturing and how they try to maximize platform efficiencies towards increasing profits, all while hitting emissions standards and providing good daily...

To troll the “it’s not a real Land Cruiser” folks?

Agreed. However it is better than 10-20k markups Hard to put a non refundable deposit down on a car most havent even seen in person

The LC 250 "exclusive bed kit" harkens to LC 80 "active vacation."

Toyota has said that the TNGA-F platform allows them to change not only the length of the frame but also to adjust the strength of the frame as needed for each particular vehicle. So I don’t think it is accurate to say that the strength of the...

Is it really another class all because of a couple more cylinders and a slightly larger rear end? An upgrade yes, most definitely but another class I'm not so sure. In any case I still could make a case for choosing the LC over the 4R based on...

According to tech specs, the LC 250s range up to 5575 lb curb weight depending upon options and trim. I am curious to know the origins of the 5037 lb value published on the website.

LC250 curb weight is actually around 5350 lb for the 1958. Their quoted figure is incorrect.

Non refundable deposit? No thank you.

No need to know the why's but all I am gonna say is God bless you and protect you, always. 🙏🏿🫂. PS: the "thunk" sound, is important ! 👌🏿🤗