BSLCA BS... ie.. local chat..

[PScottBx]

Originally Posted by tabascoloco

Well, here's the deal: .....

Hey, thanks much for taking the time to jot all that down. I'm actually excited to do this, I think. I've got some more reading to do.. but looks good what I've read last pm and this pm.

Regardless, I wrote Travis and let the 3F go.

Thanks again
Scott



P.S. I still wanna drive it

[Volunteer]

Originally Posted by tabascoloco

Well, here's the deal: I did tons of research. I consider myself very mechanically inclined. I've only been to a mechanic 3 times in my life. Usually due to lack of time or tools. At any rate, I too contemplated the 3F head/injection option at first. WHY? well, until very recently, I would consider myself a Landcruiser Purist. I would have never have put a WEBER, much less a GM TBI!!! In the past I'd come to believe in Genuine Toyota ONLY. NEVER found any aftermarket parts that weren't junk. Regret almost every aftermarket purchase I ever made (mostly from SOR and CCOT...the latter being NOTORIOUS for AFT. junk). I usually end up putting the ORIGINAL OEM part back on when the AFT. part fails. I know I should have saved that for a separate thread, but I had to vent. I always ran NON-USA carbs and distributors. Alot of people don't realize that most LC's don't have vacuum advance (only the really old ones and the late 70s on). Anyway, The 3FE head on a 2F was my original plan. In the end, having discussed this with mechanics, I concluded that the GM TBI was cheap, reliable, proven, and easy to program, fine-tune etc. Parts everywhere. You could literally break down in the middle of nowhere and get a ECU, and any other part from a parts house or junk yard-no problem. I almost had a custom Multiport built, but decided against it. Theoretically it could/would be better, but again, mechanics and others convinced me TBI was simpler and that the advantages of multiport were exaggerated.

Let me speed this up a bit...okay, anyway, once I made up my mind I ordered a few parts and began the TBI project. I want to emphasize that my truck was running GREAT before this upgrade. (I had a brand new Weber 38/38). I didn't expect much really. Boy was I in for a surprise. The EFI made my truck run like a totally different engine and tranny were installed! You actually have to drive it to know what I mean. I would go so far as to say that my 40 feels more powerful than my 4.5L FZJ80. Also, unlike the 80, I can program the GM with my pocket programmer. TUrn on or off EGR, whatever I want. I currently have a spare computer, spare manifold adapter, and even a spare TBI!!! Why? Well, I have a hobby and love spending money on my cruiser! I just put in a brand new Throttle body (650cfm holley actually). I also bought someone else's fine-tuned ECU. I found out that any ECU out of a late eighties-early nineties GM w/4.3L v6 worked great in the 2F as-is. The absolute best advice I can give anyone regardless of 3FE->2f or GM TBI, whatever is: GET A WIRING HARNESS! Painless is TOTALLY worth it. Awesome investment. Finally, I have a hookup on getting the O2 sensor welded in. I run headers and found that you have to use a heated O2 sensor.

Finally, if you seriously decide to do the GM TBI, I'd be happy to help. I currently run the custom DUI HEI distributor (not the regular HEI, but the one for TBI), a Vehicle speed sensor, heated O2 sensor, MAP, temp and knock sensor (though I'm considering disabling that). The hardest part to me was getting the throttle linkage right. I'm currently about to redo mine. Also, I hate running an Open air cleaner, and I'm NOT a K&N fan. I plan to put an FZJ80 air box on mine (if I can find the room!) since its free flowing (unline the '78) and has the dust collector and water proof (like the diesels).

Whew! nuff said for now. In the end, the cruiser starts in the garage with virtually No smell, and has incredible drivability and power...can pass on uphills turning huge tires, etc...no more whine when letting off the gas in lower gears, etc...actually wants to hold you there instead...very nice.

Thanks for taking the time to tell us about it. Thats the best part of having a club like this is all the advice and experiences of others. When I restored my 70 FJ40 in 1996 there was no internet so all I had to go on was a couple catalogs and alot of wasted money to see what fit and run best. You and I could ramble for hours you talk my lingo. I know Scott appreciates the advice as he's putting together the parts to build the best 40 he can.

LL

[Volunteer]

Originally Posted by tabascoloco

I just wanted to mention that I strongly feel that North America got robbed and that we should have recieved full floaters, diesels, etc. I've run split rims and non-usa setups before and absolutely love the setup. I would never go back to Weber ever again, though it is a lot cheaper. If not EFI, then NON-USA for me. Hooks right up to your stock air cleaner and fuel lines. NO mods necessary. They are awesome. My 1963 FJ40 had all out Vacuum advance, but I think that the best distributor for a 2F is to take the side cover off of a FJ60 and put it on your FJ40. The FJ60 (i.e., '81 thru '87) large cap distributor is awesome! Waterproof, teflon coated internals, electronic, etc PLUS has two vacuum advance ports (I tee them together). If you are running a pre-75 distributor, you might consider running one of these...I am also a firm believer in diesel for offroad/4x4 usage. I almost sold my 40 series to pickup a 70-series w/5spd and diesel, but alas it wasn't turbo-charged...

Couldn't agree more. We've been talking diesels for months, but it gets costly fast and I don't know anyone locally you can talk too that has done it.

LL

[Volunteer]

LOL. Michael I do have a PTO I was going to restore for my 67. We'll talk about it if you really want it. I will be selling the 67 now that I bought the 78 in a month or so. I'm finishing up redoing all of the suspension and redoing the manifolds and exaust on it. As for the milemarker I had guys I know that ran the 10000lb hydraulic and steadily burned up PS pumps. I was never impressed by the ones I've seen being used out on the trails. Maybe they've gotten better. In my opinion its a double edged sword to have your PS pump burn up and lose the use of your winch out on the trail for a weekend. However I have seen some of their electric winches the 11000,12000lb winches that perfomed as well as the Warns.

LL

[PScottBx]

Bout to place an order from CCOT for some "goodies".... anyone have a place I can sleep??

[tabascoloco]

Originally Posted by PScottBx

Bout to place an order from CCOT for some "goodies".... anyone have a place I can sleep??

LOL...i hear you...I "accidentally" ripped my stock bumper off on a post one afternoon..."had" to get a new one....

[PScottBx]

Originally Posted by tabascoloco

LOL...i hear you...I "accidentally" ripped my stock bumper off on a post one afternoon..."had" to get a new one....

Did you get a new one??? If not, I have a stock one on my 79 and then I'd probably "have" to get that shackled, HFS that's fitted for the 8274. Then I'd have to get a new 8274 to go w/ it b/c the old one is kinda rusty.


"Have to" is such a funny phrase.

Scott

[PScottBx]

Don't know but can ask around.. Don't know of many folks w/ them around here though. I'll keep an eye out for you.

... I'm still looking for Jason a set of 55 springs and Armond a horn.

Scott

We can certainly do w/ a Sticky thread for Louisiana wanted and "for sale"

Scott

[PScottBx]

Originally Posted by tabascoloco

Anyone have a spare set of stock rims FS or trade? I'd like to save the Q78's for the trail and another setup for road...might be able to have a separate space of our own for parts for sale/trade/WTB???

1. Post this up in the wanted section.. that is now running straight again.


2. Remind me never to let Larry and I F#&< w/ the thread tools!!!!!!!!!!!!


Scott

[Volunteer]

Originally Posted by tabascoloco

Anyone have a spare set of stock rims FS or trade? I'd like to save the Q78's for the trail and another setup for road...might be able to have a separate space of our own for parts for sale/trade/WTB???

I've been looking for some too, Butch showed me some FJ60 wheels I may go with if I can't find any stockers.

[Bayou_Flyer]

Commuting home yesterday, I-12W around Abita Springs, I saw a blue FJ Cruiser towing a FJ40. It was a maroon-ish, almost primer red color with hardtop and doors. Just wondering if it was a club member?

[cajun65]

Don't know for sure, but obviously they have good taste and need to join our ranks!

[PScottBx]

Originally Posted by Bayou_Flyer

...Just wondering if it was a club member?

It was probably Landry. He seems to be buying up all the available 40's these days!!


me

[Bayou_Flyer]

So I've been reading!

[speedn3]

I live here in covington, which is basicly part of abita springs. I know of two fj40s here for sure and the two others I know about I have not seen in a couple of years. Not saying there arent any here I sure havent seen them and I'm always lookin

[PScottBx]

Originally Posted by Volunteer

I've been looking for some too, Butch showed me some FJ60 wheels I may go with if I can't find any stockers.

Done some looking.. can you tel the differnce from > 4 feet away???

me

[PScottBx]

Any of you locals going to the Youngsville parade???

May try to go but park so I don't get trapped.

[PScottBx]

Originally Posted by cajun65

I'm going. Where are you parking? Doesn't it run right by your neighborhood?

yeah, I'll tell you more in the am. However, I'm planning to park right by where the "new" neighborhood comes out onto 92. Was thinking of putting my truck on the route early in the am and then parking Beth's car there as a "get away" if I need to leave. If we park, your clan is welcome. If we don't, we'll still probably be by the post office or so. I can TM you.

I think Landry has a Bday party
me

[Volunteer]

Originally Posted by PScottBx

yeah, I'll tell you more in the am. However, I'm planning to park right by where the "new" neighborhood comes out onto 92. Was thinking of putting my truck on the route early in the am and then parking Beth's car there as a "get away" if I need to leave. If we park, your clan is welcome. If we don't, we'll still probably be by the post office or so. I can TM you.

I think Landry has a Bday party
me

Yea, If I come I'll be solo. Rebecca and the kids will be at a birthday party. It a friend at school so I'm off the hook. Cruiser time. I can get the key to Rebecca office and park right there if you want. She offered earlier. Its next tot he post office.

[Volunteer]

Originally Posted by PScottBx

Done some looking.. can you tel the differnce from > 4 feet away???

me

Alot different, but I like the look too. This is a set on another 40.

No, thats not me watering the tires. Butch sent the pic.

[Volunteer]

Quick chop, I think they would look pretty good.