partial page loads/ gibberish this morning

yooper · 09-18-06, 09:34 AM

I'm getting partial page loads and pages full of gibberish today. Safari 2.0.4 / Mac OS 10.4.7

example:

woody · 09-18-06, 10:08 AM

just finished a couple hours of database maintenance...that's likely the cause...

yooper · 09-18-06, 12:53 PM

OK

Still getting weird stuff, similar in nature but different details... Are you still playing?

woody · 09-18-06, 01:21 PM

mmmm...nope, not anymore....

no clue what to do if you are still getting errors, gotta be something with Safari (and I'm a PC-only user, so I won't be any help....lol)

yooper · 09-18-06, 01:39 PM

OK. Doesn't bother me much - just have to do a page reload about 10% of the time. It's only MUD I think though, and only today; it was just FYI.

IBCRUSN · 09-18-06, 10:34 PM

I'm getting the same "stuff". I thought maybe it was firefox but it the same for IE.

IBCRUSN · 09-23-06, 10:59 PM

I still get the partial loads and funky pics but now it's only with Firefox. Any ideas what's up?

woody · 09-24-06, 07:51 AM

none offhand....all the upgrades to the software are complete....

may need to clear the forum cookies and relogin...

IBCRUSN · 09-25-06, 07:18 PM

Tried that a couple times ind it's actually worse after I delete cookies. I'm virus free so I don't have a clue where the issue could come from.

Oh, I forgot to add that it's only with MUD not with any of the other message boards I've been to.

woody · 09-25-06, 09:23 PM

how many of the others are running vBulletin 3.6.1?

(hate it when I run the forum on 5 machines and none of them show the issue...lol)

IBCRUSN · 09-25-06, 10:32 PM

That I would have to look into and pay a little more attention to. I'll get back to youon that.

yooper · 09-26-06, 09:22 PM

I am still getting the problem at work (T1 line, through a gazillion firewalls, as it's a hospital-based connection). No problems at home (cable).

woody · 09-27-06, 05:55 AM

there is an image issue I'm working on, no solutions yet, but have an experiment I'm trying once I get in the office....

IBCRUSN · 10-01-06, 11:09 PM

Still having issues with MUD on rare occations I do have problems with other sites. From what I could find at Mozilla it doesn't seem to be a broser issue. Perhaps the new version will fix this? At any rate here is a link that I found that was on Mozilla's site.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Page_displays_as_gibberish

tclndcrz · 10-02-06, 07:07 PM

ive been having off and on issues with ih8mud and firefox. i had the above issue randomly the past couple weeks. not in the past couple days though.

but today i got an error with firefox several times that said

Object not found!

The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error.

If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster

Error 404

forum.ih8mud.com
Mon 02 Oct 2006 05:01:46 PM PDT
Apache/2.0.40 (Red Hat Linux)

anyway i figured i should post it up. its only with firefox

yooper · 10-06-06, 07:31 AM

I'm still having the gibberish and partial page load problem. It's been waxing and waning but I have some problems every day. I've changed from Safari to Firefox, which fixed some other problems but not this one...

It happens 10x more frequently on my office computer, which is on a T1 connection but behind some pretty dense hospital firewalls and filtered through WebSense. At home, on a digital cable connection, it happens only rarely. Not sure what any of that means.

woody · 10-06-06, 07:40 AM

it's possible that some of the javascript used by the forum software is getting blocked....the latest versions of vBulletin rely pretty heavily on AJAX for page loading/refreshing....

what'er ya doin surfin from work anyways? lol

yooper · 10-06-06, 07:50 AM

But what's weird is that it's inconsistent. Today, for example, it's happening on about 1/3 of the time. Yesterday it was 70% or so - I'd have to reload 6 or 7 times to get a page to load fully.

tclndcrz · 10-11-06, 12:32 PM

so this is the latest thing ive figured out. Everything is perfectly normal and loads correctly when my Norton Internet Security is On. When I dissable the security I get the funky pages.

so all is well. keep the security on

IBCRUSN · 10-11-06, 10:16 PM

I would have agreed but mine still wigs out with Norton on. It was occasionally better when my worm protection was off but even that didn't last. What's strange is that the gibberish is only on MUD. On very rare occasions I get partial pic loads but VERY rarely.

tclndcrz · 10-12-06, 02:07 PM

actually its not perfect. i dont get partial page loads anymore but smilies attachments and stuff like that dont work.

My computer works perfect when im on the school network but when i get home it has the issues. school and home are both wireless. maybe its a router configuration. it feels like the page is just loading slowly and not picking up all the information. like ih8mud thinks its done loading when it really isnt.

extremetoy1 · 10-13-06, 01:11 PM

The bottom of the main page does not display how many users on it any more is it me or id this new? and what are "spiders" when you see the "visitors, guests and members" area?

yooper · 10-20-06, 11:24 AM

partial page loads are particularly bad today. About 75% failure...

desertdude · 10-23-06, 08:42 AM

yes - page loads sometimes fully and clear - other times not - I can refresh to fix

can't use any of the smileys or any of the tools in the advanced window - must be the Safari updated browser Version 2.0.4 (419.3) mixed with this version of vBulletin v3.6.2

Bummer...

09-18-06, 10:08 AM	#2
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09-18-06, 01:21 PM	#4
woody Admin Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Appleton, WI TLCA# 1548 Posts: 7,687 Blog Entries: 2	mmmm...nope, not anymore.... no clue what to do if you are still getting errors, gotta be something with Safari (and I'm a PC-only user, so I won't be any help....lol) __________________ Brian 'woody' Swearingen 1974 FJ40 'The Raisin' - Pitbull Rockers, 30-spline Longfields, SOA - 1/4 ellip 1996 FZJ80 'Gretchen' - MetalTech, ARB, OME, IPOR, 4x4Labs 2003 2500HD Duramax - Edge/Juice/Attitude, 285 Nitto Terra Grapplers, 4" exhaust Forum Questions? Click Here! 'America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.' Abraham Lincoln

09-18-06, 10:34 PM	#6
IBCRUSN IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountainous Kansas TLCA# 4268 Posts: 1,384	I'm getting the same "stuff". I thought maybe it was firefox but it the same for IE. __________________ 1994 80 - Some stuff Those who can, do; those who can't, criticize - Unknown "Distribute the wealth" = Socialism

09-23-06, 10:59 PM	#7
IBCRUSN IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountainous Kansas TLCA# 4268 Posts: 1,384	I still get the partial loads and funky pics but now it's only with Firefox. Any ideas what's up? __________________ 1994 80 - Some stuff Those who can, do; those who can't, criticize - Unknown "Distribute the wealth" = Socialism

09-24-06, 07:51 AM	#8
woody Admin Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Appleton, WI TLCA# 1548 Posts: 7,687 Blog Entries: 2	none offhand....all the upgrades to the software are complete.... may need to clear the forum cookies and relogin... __________________ Brian 'woody' Swearingen 1974 FJ40 'The Raisin' - Pitbull Rockers, 30-spline Longfields, SOA - 1/4 ellip 1996 FZJ80 'Gretchen' - MetalTech, ARB, OME, IPOR, 4x4Labs 2003 2500HD Duramax - Edge/Juice/Attitude, 285 Nitto Terra Grapplers, 4" exhaust Forum Questions? Click Here! 'America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.' Abraham Lincoln

09-25-06, 07:18 PM	#9
IBCRUSN IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountainous Kansas TLCA# 4268 Posts: 1,384	Tried that a couple times ind it's actually worse after I delete cookies. I'm virus free so I don't have a clue where the issue could come from. Oh, I forgot to add that it's only with MUD not with any of the other message boards I've been to. __________________ 1994 80 - Some stuff Those who can, do; those who can't, criticize - Unknown "Distribute the wealth" = Socialism

09-25-06, 09:23 PM	#10
woody Admin Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Appleton, WI TLCA# 1548 Posts: 7,687 Blog Entries: 2	how many of the others are running vBulletin 3.6.1? (hate it when I run the forum on 5 machines and none of them show the issue...lol) __________________ Brian 'woody' Swearingen 1974 FJ40 'The Raisin' - Pitbull Rockers, 30-spline Longfields, SOA - 1/4 ellip 1996 FZJ80 'Gretchen' - MetalTech, ARB, OME, IPOR, 4x4Labs 2003 2500HD Duramax - Edge/Juice/Attitude, 285 Nitto Terra Grapplers, 4" exhaust Forum Questions? Click Here! 'America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.' Abraham Lincoln

09-25-06, 10:32 PM	#11
IBCRUSN IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountainous Kansas TLCA# 4268 Posts: 1,384	That I would have to look into and pay a little more attention to. I'll get back to youon that. __________________ 1994 80 - Some stuff Those who can, do; those who can't, criticize - Unknown "Distribute the wealth" = Socialism

09-27-06, 05:55 AM	#13
woody Admin Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Appleton, WI TLCA# 1548 Posts: 7,687 Blog Entries: 2	there is an image issue I'm working on, no solutions yet, but have an experiment I'm trying once I get in the office.... __________________ Brian 'woody' Swearingen 1974 FJ40 'The Raisin' - Pitbull Rockers, 30-spline Longfields, SOA - 1/4 ellip 1996 FZJ80 'Gretchen' - MetalTech, ARB, OME, IPOR, 4x4Labs 2003 2500HD Duramax - Edge/Juice/Attitude, 285 Nitto Terra Grapplers, 4" exhaust Forum Questions? Click Here! 'America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.' Abraham Lincoln

10-01-06, 11:09 PM	#14
IBCRUSN IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountainous Kansas TLCA# 4268 Posts: 1,384	Still having issues with MUD on rare occations I do have problems with other sites. From what I could find at Mozilla it doesn't seem to be a broser issue. Perhaps the new version will fix this? At any rate here is a link that I found that was on Mozilla's site. http://kb.mozillazine.org/Page_displays_as_gibberish __________________ 1994 80 - Some stuff Those who can, do; those who can't, criticize - Unknown "Distribute the wealth" = Socialism

10-02-06, 07:07 PM	#15
tclndcrz IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bozeman MT TLCA# 14430 Posts: 933	ive been having off and on issues with ih8mud and firefox. i had the above issue randomly the past couple weeks. not in the past couple days though. but today i got an error with firefox several times that said Object not found! The requested URL was not found on this server. The link on the referring page seems to be wrong or outdated. Please inform the author of that page about the error. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster Error 404 forum.ih8mud.com Mon 02 Oct 2006 05:01:46 PM PDT Apache/2.0.40 (Red Hat Linux) anyway i figured i should post it up. its only with firefox __________________ -Thomas Crumrine TLCA #14430 88 FJ62 33x12.5 BFG A/Ts, front parabolics, ARB bumper, warn xd9000, 2badfjs sliders, aussie lockers, longfields, durabak, flowmaster, rear disks...

10-06-06, 07:40 AM	#17
woody Admin Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Appleton, WI TLCA# 1548 Posts: 7,687 Blog Entries: 2	it's possible that some of the javascript used by the forum software is getting blocked....the latest versions of vBulletin rely pretty heavily on AJAX for page loading/refreshing.... what'er ya doin surfin from work anyways? lol __________________ Brian 'woody' Swearingen 1974 FJ40 'The Raisin' - Pitbull Rockers, 30-spline Longfields, SOA - 1/4 ellip 1996 FZJ80 'Gretchen' - MetalTech, ARB, OME, IPOR, 4x4Labs 2003 2500HD Duramax - Edge/Juice/Attitude, 285 Nitto Terra Grapplers, 4" exhaust Forum Questions? Click Here! 'America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.' Abraham Lincoln

10-11-06, 12:32 PM	#19
tclndcrz IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bozeman MT TLCA# 14430 Posts: 933	so this is the latest thing ive figured out. Everything is perfectly normal and loads correctly when my Norton Internet Security is On. When I dissable the security I get the funky pages. so all is well. keep the security on __________________ -Thomas Crumrine TLCA #14430 88 FJ62 33x12.5 BFG A/Ts, front parabolics, ARB bumper, warn xd9000, 2badfjs sliders, aussie lockers, longfields, durabak, flowmaster, rear disks...

10-11-06, 10:16 PM	#20
IBCRUSN IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mountainous Kansas TLCA# 4268 Posts: 1,384	I would have agreed but mine still wigs out with Norton on. It was occasionally better when my worm protection was off but even that didn't last. What's strange is that the gibberish is only on MUD. On very rare occasions I get partial pic loads but VERY rarely. __________________ 1994 80 - Some stuff Those who can, do; those who can't, criticize - Unknown "Distribute the wealth" = Socialism

10-12-06, 02:07 PM	#21
tclndcrz IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bozeman MT TLCA# 14430 Posts: 933	actually its not perfect. i dont get partial page loads anymore but smilies attachments and stuff like that dont work. My computer works perfect when im on the school network but when i get home it has the issues. school and home are both wireless. maybe its a router configuration. it feels like the page is just loading slowly and not picking up all the information. like ih8mud thinks its done loading when it really isnt. __________________ -Thomas Crumrine TLCA #14430 88 FJ62 33x12.5 BFG A/Ts, front parabolics, ARB bumper, warn xd9000, 2badfjs sliders, aussie lockers, longfields, durabak, flowmaster, rear disks...

10-13-06, 01:11 PM	#22
extremetoy1 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ST.louie TLCA# X Posts: 549	The bottom of the main page does not display how many users on it any more is it me or id this new? and what are "spiders" when you see the "visitors, guests and members" area?

10-23-06, 08:42 AM	#24
desertdude IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sedona Arizona TLCA# 2911 Posts: 2,820	yes - page loads sometimes fully and clear - other times not - I can refresh to fix can't use any of the smileys or any of the tools in the advanced window - must be the Safari updated browser Version 2.0.4 (419.3) mixed with this version of vBulletin v3.6.2 Bummer... __________________ <---------------------©-------------------> • North <-> South <-> East <-> West • <---------------------©------------------->