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ĄDel uno!
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I know you guys have mentioned ammo in other threads...
What is your favorite self protection ammo currently and why? I need something for the wife's 9mm and I was thinking Federal Hydrashoks but is there something better? |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: North Platte, Middle of nowhere
Posts: 821
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Hydra's have been the standby for a long time. However...that said they are old technology. They are decent bullets.....but I would not bet my life on them.
To me....the Winchester Silver Tip Personal Defense rounds are the top of the barrel. I also like the Corbon bullets. There is a company called Double Tap...and they make fine ammo as well. Dont let the caliber junkies worry you about the 9. I can vouch for the pain it causes personally.
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Come on in boys...
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: coastal empire
Posts: 832
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I use Remington .177 hollow point ... Forgot the name cause I used the can they came in to catch oil and then chucked it.
These rounds are great for squirle attacks around the homestead. I hate those bastards. __________________ '68 mostly stock FJ40L-B SOLD!
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D'OH!
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Hornady TAP are nice. I want to try out those new Federals with the silicone in the HP cavity - that might be my go to round for the HK94 when the proverbial hits the fan and the apocalypse comes. Just haven't figured out a good way to test them yet...
__________________ If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. '99 UZJ100 "The Iron Hippo" / '82 FJ40 "Mustard" / '73 FJ40 |
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IH8MUD Junior
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.45 ACP 230 grain hardball. It is what my 1911's are designed to shoot.
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: North Platte, Middle of nowhere
Posts: 821
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My kimber feeds stars just fine.
Pig is the closest to human. Ballistic gelatin works well too.....but gets kinda spendy for a citizen to do a convincing enough test. Ive dabbled in it.
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SoCal/Mexico
Posts: 407
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PMC starfire in the P99 (.40)
magtech gold series in the 342pd (.38spl +p) i haven't shot the magtech batch yet. i bought them as a hold over untill i can find the newer speer gold dot designed for snubbies. |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: in the doghouse
Posts: 253
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15-20 rounds of .308 Ball ammo has worked on everything I have encountered.
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D'OH!
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I've considered buying a big ham hock or something. If I had a pig farm I'd be set! __________________ If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. '99 UZJ100 "The Iron Hippo" / '82 FJ40 "Mustard" / '73 FJ40 |
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IH8MUD Regular
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Swinging from a vine.
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hydras in my autos, silver tips in the .357.
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Yo soy El Cucuy
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158gr hollow points in the .357 magnum revolver
#6 shot field loads in the 12ga 125gr metal jacket soft point in the .38spc __________________ Alvin 00 XTerra slightly modded-Wifey's 07 AT Horizon Trailer "Turtle"-Ours 94 FZJ80 "Tortuga" +4", 315's, 4:88's, locked, armored and scratched to hell-Mine Copper State Cruisers 13 You're like a breadstick, you got no rhythm I don't know what I don't know, and I won't know what I don't know until I know it! |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: North Platte, Middle of nowhere
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ĄDel uno!
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Skyshark, how do you know?
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Have a Coke and a smile:D
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So, how do you guys think the Hydra's and silvertips stack up against Black Talons?
__________________ Chad 1976 FJ40: TBI350/SM465/SOA/SR/37's/ARBs/30-Longs/Metal Tech/SROR/Oeyes 1985 Toy Hilux: 6" lift/4.3L/R150F/Marlin's DUC/ARBs/30-Longs/5.29s/37's/Oeyes 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 CTD bullydogged, airlift There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures, right next to my mashed potatoes! |
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IH8MUD Junior
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oregon
Posts: 143
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.45
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DUM8HIT
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,889
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Actually my protection usually keeps my ammo from doin it's thang.
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springfield user
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whatever's in the .45 either ball or hollowpoint they both are proven winners.
the 12GA gets beanbags when it's in the house. __________________ it's only metal, we can out think it. 77-fj40 20th anniversary edition 87-fj60 216K mile DDer 93-fzj80 mall crawler toyota material distribution center. your source for Factory Service Manuals. they're alot cheaper than you think. 1-800-622-2033 |
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DUM8HIT
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Cum again?? TY - *double barrel straw and spitballs* __________________ Hybrid suspension - Slee 4" Front/OME863 Rear, Slee Front control arms, Slee DIY adjustable panhards, Slee sliders, 36X13.5R16 IROK radials on AR Black Trenches, 1.5" Trail-Gear spacers, Toughbook CF74 with GPS etc, sans roofrack, jumpseats, lockers. Clear lenses abound ![]() |
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IH8MUD Lifer
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Deep East Texas
Posts: 1,650
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Corbon's for just about everything.
Remington Golden Sabre performs well too. In my .45 I use 230 gr. rounds in the winter to help penetrate heavy clothing, then switch to 165's in the summer. There are a lot of good personal defense rounds out there. If you carry, take the time to try several. You'll find that some will group better than others (out of your particular gun). Also, different rounds vary greatly in the amount of "muzzle flash" they produce...which can be a concern in low light conditions. I've tried most everything out there, and settled on the Corbon's. __________________ Flintknapper: '97 Land Cruiser, Moonglow Pearl Chocolate Lab (Kota), I miss you. ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ (come and take them) |
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Original hoser
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: South of the 49th. just.
Posts: 352
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Anyone use Glaser safteys in the house?
__________________ 1982 BJ60... Rusty... and not so trusty... RIP - Rust In Peace 1989 HJ61 12H-T Steve "This was a particularly bad case of somebody being cut in half." "If your erection lasts longer than 3 hours... call more women!" |
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IH8MUD Addict
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: North Platte, Middle of nowhere
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Well stinky.....the nice scar on my shoulder blade and the hospital bill im still paying off seems to be testament. Black Talons are a superb bullet. No better than a Corbon or a Silver Tip to me.......the hype that surrounded them is what the price is. Notoriaty is a bitch.
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IH8MUD Regular
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No one mentioned Black talons. I know they were outlawed but if you know the right people they can still be had and you wanted the best protection ammo right.
__________________ 1991 FJ80 mostly stock, for NOW. First ever Toyota 1976 FJ40 with a bunch of stuff done. SOLD you will be missed. check out my ROTW http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=84748 Second Toyota and I'm sure there will be more. www.hoosiercruiser.org Check out a web site I put together about my trucks and the Hoosier Cruisers http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2113715 or you can visit me on myspace http://www.myspace.com/cruiserpeebles |
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She idles just fine
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Black Talons are not "outlawed"--they went out of production by that name and were renamed Winchester SXT back a few years ago. There may be some states that don't allow them; however, those are states that don't allow hollowpoints of any variety. Hell, for the longest time, NYPD officers had to carry FMJ ball ammo--now THAT'S stupid and just plain not safe for the officers.
Remington Golden Sabre are very good rounds. I have nothing bad to say about Federal Hydrashock either. Silvertips are a good bet--especially in the smaller autos; however, my favorite round across the board is CorBon. I have not found a load of theirs that is ineffective. It's good stuff and they get my money. At work I have to carry the Golden Sabre; however, when my choice is in play, I only carry CorBon. I don't buy the Glaser or other frangible ammo. To me, I am responsible for the rounds that I fire and I don't spray rounds--I believe in hitting the target. I buy ammo that gets the job done in the target and I don't believe the frangibles out there reliably do that. Having said that, there is work being done using sintered metal rounds that offers promise beyond what current frangibles offer. This is intriguing to me but not yet in my gun. We'll see. __________________ Sparkplugs are Irrelevant. 1976 HJ-45; 1984 BJ-42; 1988 BJ-73; & 1993 KZJ-70 Quote:
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