Collectors... Have you seen this?

HR-OLIFANT · 02-12-08, 06:29 AM

My uncle is an avid historian/ collector. He showed this auction lot to me, and I am in awe at the collection this man, Bruce Stern, had amassed. What a wonderful thing that they will go to those who will appreciate them.

He referred to this auction house as the Barrett- Jackson of the gun world, and Bruce Stern likened to Ron Pratt.

Not many of these are hunting weapons, but I know that many of you don't limit your enthusiasm to hunting and personal protection weapons. Enjoy!

Andrew

Firearms Session 1?

Landpimp · 02-12-08, 07:32 AM

yes..........my god yes I have.......WOW!

TX80Fan · 02-12-08, 07:29 PM

unfriggin'believable! I bet all was peaceful in his neighborhood...

Cube Dweller · 02-12-08, 10:38 PM

What an amazing collection

cruiserdan · 02-12-08, 11:33 PM

The value of that collection is simply staggering. It would not be possible for one person to ever do it again.

I quit adding it up at $2,000,000.00 I was only about 1/2 way through the list.

HR-OLIFANT · 02-13-08, 06:43 AM

My uncle found the listing on gunboards.com. Some of the proceeds of the auction are going to the NRA. I have found little info on him, other than he was a lawyer and was once on the board of the NRA. Some believe the weapons in the auction are those that the NRA museum decided to pass on! Imagine that. Some believe this may be the tip of the iceberg as far as great collections go.... lots of older wealthy collectors are expected to part with their caches when they part. Time will tell......

Landpimp · 02-13-08, 07:35 AM

more of the same collection here
http://www.poulinantiques.com/030908...0Day%20One.htm

AJP · 02-13-08, 07:58 AM

Extraordinary!
I think my shortlist (of the James Julia list) if I mortgage the house (and win the lottery) would be
#4
#51, and
#382

(#75 would be just thing in black fly season though!!)

#372 has an important story I think - would be nice if it goes to the right person.

MARLIN375 · 02-13-08, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cruiserdan

The value of that collection is simply staggering. It would not be possible for one person to ever do it again.

I quit adding it up at $2,000,000.00 I was only about 1/2 way through the list.

Did you get to #500, 501, 502..........I am in awe and I agree with you Dan, mostly because these remarkable hand made guns are being replaced by plastic/stainless utility arms that will never have that kind of value.

brian · 02-13-08, 11:10 AM

he had nearly a complete pedersen device rig, item number 240

D'Animal · 02-13-08, 11:14 AM

Are the prices at the bottom end of each description thier estimated value?

e9999 · 02-13-08, 11:22 AM

literally mind-boggling.

How can any one person get all that if not working full time on the acquisition, being an expert, and being multimillionaire?

where do you store all this stuff?

plus so many full autos, talk about paperwork and expense...

and no mention I saw of import stamps in the beginning at least, so this must be old imports...

wow!

a pity to see it parceled out. There is enough for an entire museum.

Landpimp · 02-13-08, 11:25 AM

yes, and my guess is those are pretty darn low in most cases...

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Originally Posted by D'Animal

Are the prices at the bottom end of each description thier estimated value?

Landpimp · 02-13-08, 11:26 AM

wasnt he the President of the NRA?

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Originally Posted by e9999

literally mind-boggling.

How can any one person get all that if not working full time on the acquisition, being an expert, and being multimillionaire?

where do you store all this stuff?

plus so many full autos, talk about paperwork and expense...

and no mention I saw of import stamps in the beginning at least, so this must be old imports...

wow!

a pity to see it parceled out. There is enough for an entire museum.

Landpimp · 02-13-08, 11:27 AM

how about a little look inside the ATF gun room?
ATF Gun Room

DallasFJ40 · 02-13-08, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brian

he had nearly a complete pedersen device rig, item number 240

Can you expand upon the Pederson device?

EDIT: Wow!
Pipsqueak Pistol That Never Was

DallasFJ40 · 02-13-08, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MARLIN375

Did you get to #500, 501, 502..........I am in awe and I agree with you Dan, mostly because these remarkable hand made guns are being replaced by plastic/stainless utility arms that will never have that kind of value.

Proof that a well made sxs appreciates in value.

brian · 02-14-08, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DallasFJ40

Can you expand upon the Pederson device?

it was an early attempt at a semi auto service rifle by the US.
it was a field installed "kit" that turned a 1903markI bolt action rifle, into semi auto rifle.
many 1903's were converted to the markI configuration(the cmp has sold thousands of them). but when the idea was rejected, all most all of the devices themselves were destoryed. they are a VERY rare item.

photogod · 02-15-08, 05:27 PM

That was some pretty good gun porn!

cruiserdan · 02-15-08, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by photogod

That was some pretty good gun porn!

Pretty good?

lx450landcruiser · 02-16-08, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cruiserdan

Pretty good?

Id love to get my hands on the BORSCHARDT too you never see those

first semi auto hand gun

and by pretty good i think he meant spectacular

photogod · 02-17-08, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cruiserdan

Pretty good?

Well all the blood rushed from my head after the first couple minutes, I couldn't finish looking. That BAR gave me a stiffy!

LockedLX · 02-18-08, 12:33 PM

ho lee chit. That's one helluva collection!

LukeZero · 02-18-08, 12:41 PM

My niece works for the Rock Island Armory, Rock Island, Illinois. They also do some pretty high-end auctions of collectible firearms.

She was telling me a story at Christmas that there was this little old lady in Iowa that called up saying that she had a collection of guns that her husband had collected and she wanted an honest opinion of their value. Apparently she had several guys wanting to buy the collection for a few thousand dollars and her neighbor told her to get a professional appraisal before selling to anyone.

Rock Island will travel anywhere, anytime and give an appraisal, and if the seller wishes, take their collection to auction where the buyer pays a "buyers premium" on top of the sales price to the auction house, leaving the seller with the total sum. Seems a bit more honest than low balling a collector and then profiting at auction.

So anyway, this guy goes out and sees the collection. Immediately he tells her to not sell to anyone for a few thousand dollars. She says that she's hoping to sell for enough to buy a more reliable car. He tells her that he can probably get $15,000 for the cardboard box that one of the guns still has.

All told, the entire collection sold for $650,000. I suppose that paid for her more reliable car.

If anyone wants one of their full-color catalogs, PM me. Even the ones for past auctions are pretty amazing just to browse through.

Hijack over.

kellyo · 02-18-08, 02:32 PM

That is mind boggeling (? on spelling). I wonder is he would adopt me.

HR-OLIFANT · 03-16-08, 08:13 PM

I guess I need to call my uncle about the final tally on this. I have not found any numbers on what this auction took in. Anyone out there heard anything?

BeefBarley · 03-17-08, 06:18 AM

me want this....

02-12-08, 06:29 AM	#1
HR-OLIFANT IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 64	Collectors... Have you seen this? My uncle is an avid historian/ collector. He showed this auction lot to me, and I am in awe at the collection this man, Bruce Stern, had amassed. What a wonderful thing that they will go to those who will appreciate them. He referred to this auction house as the Barrett- Jackson of the gun world, and Bruce Stern likened to Ron Pratt. Not many of these are hunting weapons, but I know that many of you don't limit your enthusiasm to hunting and personal protection weapons. Enjoy! Andrew Firearms Session 1? __________________ 1987 FJ 60 HD OME ready for rehab 1973 Pig recently sold for parts 2007 Suburban LT3 Z71 www.landworksva.com Last edited by HR-OLIFANT; 02-12-08 at 06:31 AM. Reason: Name correction

02-13-08, 06:43 AM	#6
HR-OLIFANT IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 64	My uncle found the listing on gunboards.com. Some of the proceeds of the auction are going to the NRA. I have found little info on him, other than he was a lawyer and was once on the board of the NRA. Some believe the weapons in the auction are those that the NRA museum decided to pass on! Imagine that. Some believe this may be the tip of the iceberg as far as great collections go.... lots of older wealthy collectors are expected to part with their caches when they part. Time will tell...... __________________ 1987 FJ 60 HD OME ready for rehab 1973 Pig recently sold for parts 2007 Suburban LT3 Z71 www.landworksva.com

02-13-08, 11:10 AM	#10
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02-13-08, 11:22 AM	#12
e9999 You want to do what...? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: PRK Posts: 10,202	literally mind-boggling. How can any one person get all that if not working full time on the acquisition, being an expert, and being multimillionaire? where do you store all this stuff? plus so many full autos, talk about paperwork and expense... and no mention I saw of import stamps in the beginning at least, so this must be old imports... wow! a pity to see it parceled out. There is enough for an entire museum. __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD souped up DR650

02-12-08, 07:32 AM	#2
Landpimp IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gig Harbor WA TLCA# 5506 Posts: 11,409	yes..........my god yes I have.......WOW!

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02-12-08, 10:38 PM	#4
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02-12-08, 11:33 PM	#5
cruiserdan Parts Shaman (per Romer) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Physical inventory prep. I'm edgy TLCA# 11332 Posts: 13,897	The value of that collection is simply staggering. It would not be possible for one person to ever do it again. I quit adding it up at $2,000,000.00 I was only about 1/2 way through the list. __________________ Original owner 93 FZJ80,locked,blown,water/methanol injected(like a WWII fighter aircraft),lifted,winched,snorkeled,slidered,Sleeed ,moneypit. Balanced on a pin head. 95 FZJ80 trail truck (hers), 94 FZJ80 320K with a knock and a lumpy old Dodge car. Last edited by cruiserdan; 02-12-08 at 11:45 PM.

02-13-08, 07:35 AM	#7
Landpimp IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gig Harbor WA TLCA# 5506 Posts: 11,409	more of the same collection here http://www.poulinantiques.com/030908...0Day%20One.htm

02-13-08, 07:58 AM	#8
AJP IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 280	Extraordinary! I think my shortlist (of the James Julia list) if I mortgage the house (and win the lottery) would be #4 #51, and #382 (#75 would be just thing in black fly season though!!) #372 has an important story I think - would be nice if it goes to the right person.

02-13-08, 11:27 AM	#15
Landpimp IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gig Harbor WA TLCA# 5506 Posts: 11,409	how about a little look inside the ATF gun room? ATF Gun Room

02-15-08, 05:27 PM	#19
photogod I'm really very humble Join Date: May 2004 Location: MN physically, MI spiritually Posts: 1,319	That was some pretty good gun porn! __________________ 94 FZJ80, factory locked with mods worth more than the truck.

02-18-08, 12:33 PM	#23
LockedLX aka Rednexus Join Date: May 2007 Location: St. Augustine, FL TLCA# 8675309 Posts: 181	ho lee chit. That's one helluva collection! __________________ Offroad: '97 LX450 - 128k, the wanderer Onroad: '95 Volvo 854 Turbo - 261k, daily boost Backroads: '87 Mustang 5.0 Coupe - 96k, for sale!

02-18-08, 02:32 PM	#25
kellyo IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 609	That is mind boggeling (? on spelling). I wonder is he would adopt me.

03-16-08, 08:13 PM	#26
HR-OLIFANT IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 64	How did it go? I guess I need to call my uncle about the final tally on this. I have not found any numbers on what this auction took in. Anyone out there heard anything? __________________ 1987 FJ 60 HD OME ready for rehab 1973 Pig recently sold for parts 2007 Suburban LT3 Z71 www.landworksva.com

03-17-08, 06:18 AM	#27
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