Real shotguns have 2 barrels, side-by-side - Page 2

84CRUISER · 11-30-07, 08:58 PM

I have a Zabala 10 guage, side by side. I love it goosin' but thats about it. Why carry the extra barrel? Id rather have my third shot and not just two. I usually rush my first and blow it anyway.

Mike S · 12-01-07, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2badfjs

Q: Real shotguns have 2 barrels, side-by-side

only for those who can't hit the target on the first shot

discuss:

When used correctly, the SxS shotgun is a terrific birdgun. If you miss the target with the first barrel, sporting ethics require that you fire on an DIFFERENT bird with the second barrel.

Mike S · 12-01-07, 11:05 AM

I agree with Dan, a SxS is the real bird hunter's weapon of choice. Preferably, a 16 gauge gun...

Here are a couple of my side X side guns..

Fox 16 - 5lbs. 15 oz. 28" barrels

Lindner made Charles Daly 20 gauge (Damascus barrels)

John Dickson and Son 12 gauge

Harkom 16 - 5-1/2 lbs.

DallasFJ40 · 12-01-07, 04:34 PM

Beautiful guns with incredible wood.

cruiserdan · 12-01-07, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike S

I agree with Dan, a SxS is the real bird hunter's weapon of choice. Preferably, a 16 gauge gun...

Here are a couple of my side X side guns..

HOLY COW Mike!

What wonderful pieces. My dad would be proud. He collected fine doubles for years and that brings back fond memories. Thank you for sharing.

Where in the world did you find that Fox? That thing is stunning.

D-

flintknapper · 12-01-07, 06:12 PM

Yowza!

Beautiful.

Is stock on the Fox...Turkish or English walnut?

cruiserdan · 12-01-07, 09:46 PM

It looks like Circassian.

Fly Rod · 12-02-07, 01:07 AM

Thank you for sharing those pieces with us. Simply stunning.

flintknapper · 12-02-07, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruiserdan

It looks like Circassian.

Yeah,

But which type?

There a lots of Circassian's (Turkish, English, Persian, etc) Turk and Eng are the most used and popular.

Depending on grade and pattern....its easy to get several thousand dollars into just the blank.

cruiserdan · 12-02-07, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flintknapper

Yeah,

But which type?

There a lots of Circassian's (Turkish, English, Persian, etc) Turk and Eng are the most used and popular.

Depending on grade and pattern....its easy to get several thousand dollars into just the blank.

According to my understanding and both of the dictionaries I have close by, Circassian walnut is "The light brown irregularly black-veined wood of the English walnut".

flintknapper · 12-02-07, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cruiserdan

According to my understanding and both of the dictionaries I have close by, Circassian walnut is "The light brown irregularly black-veined wood of the English walnut".

I know, but……

http://www.connecticutshotgun.com/index/Fox/Fox2.htm

http://www.800shotgun.com/gallery/gu...id=12&mode=pre

http://www.800shotgun.com/gallery/gu...id=17&mode=pre

http://www.dressels.com/1x1.gif

and so forth.

There are at least five kinds of Circassian walnuts I am aware of, but the most common and most used are the Turkish and English.

No matter, it was just a question. I could probably get the wife to let me get a pipe made out of Circassian, but that’s about it.

Does anyone know why my "smilies" have never worked on the forum? I can't add emotion to this thread, and it could save me a headgasket or a radiator.

Not trying to be argumentitave Dan, I hope you know.

Mace · 12-02-07, 09:16 PM

cruiserdan · 12-03-07, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mace

flintknapper · 12-03-07, 07:32 PM

I want smilies too, how come mine don't work?

Well.......I'll be damned....they work now.

Thanks to whomever fixed that.

Let me try another one:

oooohrahhh!

e9999 · 12-04-07, 08:53 AM

one other use for SxS:

- buy inexpensive used Stoeger SxS
- go home
- be amazed at how crude the innards are
- be amazed at how nicely it closes
- reflect on how nice it would be to have real outside hammers
- chop barrels to minimal legal length
- take to Cowboy shoot
- have fun like John Wayne on the stagecoach
- later have a handy and convincing weapon for family protection

Bearcat80 · 12-11-07, 10:34 AM

Dan,

The parallels get scary. You have a dark green 93 (yours is supercharged and pretty, mine is not), you hunt with brittanys, who I imagine are perfectly trained,(mine is not) and you shoot/own
side by sides of distinct value and beauty (mine is not). I don't know what my point is but that's just weird.

lowenbrau · 12-11-07, 10:52 AM

Why limit yourself to two barrels?

(not mine)

lowenbrau · 12-11-07, 10:55 AM

The barrel configuration is 20/70 over .308 Winch. with lateral .22WMR.

cruiserdan · 12-11-07, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat80

Dan,

The parallels get scary. You have a dark green 93 (yours is supercharged and pretty, mine is not), you hunt with brittanys, who I imagine are perfectly trained,(mine is not) and you shoot/own
side by sides of distinct value and beauty (mine is not). I don't know what my point is but that's just weird.

I wish I could claim the ones in the photos I posted were mine. I did not have any photos of my pieces available when The mood struck me to open the thread. I do not have enough disposable income......

BHMCruiser · 12-11-07, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowenbrau

The barrel configuration is 20/70 over .308 Winch. with lateral .22WMR.

I like that configuration.

Mike S · 12-12-07, 08:00 PM

Sorry to respond late, but I have been in Texas hunting quail.

The Fox is a 'remake' of a standard AE grade ejector gun that I bought in 1990. It was refiles, re-egraveed, stocked in French walnut (thin shell walnut, big-leaf walnut, English, Circassian, etc.) from Teyssier in Paris. Stock work was done by Gary Goudy of Dayton, WA. I have shot this gun at birds for years, and it is my 'go to' bird gun. I love it.

As anyone can see I have a weakness for nice SxS shotguns.

Nice Drilling! I like some of the high quality German and Austrian guns.

Ducks · 12-13-07, 12:22 PM

I have an AyA 16 gauge that my dad gave me. I love to use it on quail and pheasant. Haven't quite got up the gumption to take it chukar hunting. I probably shouldn't but I love shooting it. What is the point of having it if you don't use it, right? Of course, ask me that after the first tumble down a talus slope.

centerlineseal · 12-18-07, 10:47 AM

Nice thread! Bought my first SxS , Stevens 301(?) at age twelve, lost in Willamette River at age 21. Next a Savage "Fox", POS, sold soon after. Then two Browning BSS' in twelve and twenty. Both still in possession and used by family members. Final SxS is a Berretta Siver Hawk in 12 gauge. (Wife has one in a 20) This gun fits me so well I can't stand it! Used hard on Idaho quail, chukars and huns. Stock is scarred and cracked and need a new "field grade" made next spring. (Season runs to 31 January!) Does that fellow in Dayton WA build working gun stocks?

theside00 · 01-10-08, 01:10 AM

I got two SxS that is pretty much all I have ever shot. Went with a pump jammed to much, semi auto jammed way to much. I got a model 21 winchester and the gun I use the most and have shot since I started is a rossi side by side. Brazilian made gub dont hear about them around here to much anybody else have one.

WarDamnEagle · 01-10-08, 05:40 AM

I prefer my 2 barrels vertical Dan:

UK Diana grade, Browning 12 ga. B25 Superposed, 30" M F

There are only two things that I've found cheaper in England than in the U.S.: Browning, Belgium made B25 shotguns and Barbour clothing. I'm investing heavily in both.

Next purchase, custom fitted, B25 20 ga. Pointer.....need another bonus first!

Mike S · 01-11-08, 09:52 AM

I love the older Browning Supers (RKLT). I have owned a bunch of them in 20 gauge, and still have my 1937 Super that has killed a truck load of ducks. Wife gave me this gun about 25 years ago.

The other O/U I like is my Perazzi MX20 with 30" fixed choke barrels. Like the Superposed, these guns just handle wonderfully and point very well.

11-30-07, 08:58 PM	#31
84CRUISER Me is good Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: COLORADO Posts: 365	I have a Zabala 10 guage, side by side. I love it goosin' but thats about it. Why carry the extra barrel? Id rather have my third shot and not just two. I usually rush my first and blow it anyway. __________________ Jeep this! Castle Rock Crippled Cruisers 1984 fj60, aal rearch, 3"+shackles. TBI, 33's 1986 fj60, SOA.

12-01-07, 11:05 AM	#33
Mike S IH8MUD Lifer - No Appeal Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,513	I agree with Dan, a SxS is the real bird hunter's weapon of choice. Preferably, a 16 gauge gun... Here are a couple of my side X side guns.. Fox 16 - 5lbs. 15 oz. 28" barrels Lindner made Charles Daly 20 gauge (Damascus barrels) John Dickson and Son 12 gauge Harkom 16 - 5-1/2 lbs. __________________ '96 FZJ80, locked, Hanna sliders, ARB bumper, Kaymar rear with spare carrier, 45 gallon Longranger aux fuel tank, OBA, Hella 4000's, OME lift, 285/75/R16 Revos & AutoHome Maggiolina rooftop tent, etc. Custom Cruiser trailer with OverLand tent www.AutoHomeUS.com TLCA Member #14874

12-01-07, 04:34 PM	#34
DallasFJ40 Ruffo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX TLCA# 16474 Posts: 567	Beautiful guns with incredible wood. __________________ 3/79 FJ40 "Red Sled" -- 2.5" springs, 1.5" shackles, Thornbirds (free), mini PS, and a lot more work to do. Lone Star Land Cruisers

12-01-07, 06:12 PM	#36
flintknapper IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deep East Texas Posts: 1,650	Yowza! Beautiful. Is stock on the Fox...Turkish or English walnut? __________________ Flintknapper: '97 Land Cruiser, Moonglow Pearl Chocolate Lab (Kota), I miss you. ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ (come and take them)

12-01-07, 09:46 PM	#37
cruiserdan Parts Shaman (per Romer) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Prolly on the phone TLCA# 11332 Posts: 13,870	It looks like Circassian. __________________ Original owner 93 FZJ80,locked,blown,water/methanol injected(like a WWII fighter aircraft),lifted,winched,snorkeled,slidered,Sleeed ,moneypit. Balanced on a pin head. 95 FZJ80 trail truck (hers), 94 FZJ80 320K with a knock and a lumpy old Dodge car.

12-02-07, 01:07 AM	#38
Fly Rod IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ashland, OR Posts: 1,078	Thank you for sharing those pieces with us. Simply stunning. __________________ Fly Rod '95 FZJ80 with stuff. I have a double handed rod... Jefferson State Cruisers

12-02-07, 09:16 PM	#42
Mace what he said Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 10,873	__________________ I am kinda gay....... My Myspace http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=75712409 "Mary Poppins: In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun and - SNAP - the job's a game."

12-03-07, 07:32 PM	#44
flintknapper IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: May 2004 Location: Deep East Texas Posts: 1,650	I want smilies too, how come mine don't work? Well.......I'll be damned....they work now. Thanks to whomever fixed that. Let me try another one: oooohrahhh! __________________ Flintknapper: '97 Land Cruiser, Moonglow Pearl Chocolate Lab (Kota), I miss you. ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ (come and take them)

12-04-07, 08:53 AM	#45
e9999 You want to do what...? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: PRK Posts: 10,190	one other use for SxS: - buy inexpensive used Stoeger SxS - go home - be amazed at how crude the innards are - be amazed at how nicely it closes - reflect on how nice it would be to have real outside hammers - chop barrels to minimal legal length - take to Cowboy shoot - have fun like John Wayne on the stagecoach - later have a handy and convincing weapon for family protection __________________ '97: 88K, 3xlock, Custom HD roo bar for sale, 285 MT/Rs on steelies, Hanna sliders, 851+1.5"/863/N73/N74E/SD24, ARB bull with M12, Kaymar with duals, Kaymar rack, Slee TC skid, 2m/440, more stuff, loose nut behind the wheel!) '03: 99K, the better half's... DD and souped up DR650

12-11-07, 10:34 AM	#46
Bearcat80 IH8MUD Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Beaverton, OR TLCA# 15535 Posts: 307	Dan, The parallels get scary. You have a dark green 93 (yours is supercharged and pretty, mine is not), you hunt with brittanys, who I imagine are perfectly trained,(mine is not) and you shoot/own side by sides of distinct value and beauty (mine is not). I don't know what my point is but that's just weird. __________________ 93 FZJ80 Locked OME 2.5" ARB Non-winch "My greatest fear is that when I die, my wife sell all my s--t for what I said I paid for it."

12-11-07, 10:52 AM	#47
lowenbrau IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Calgary AB TLCA# 5513 Posts: 2,466	Why limit yourself to two barrels? (not mine) Attached Images __________________ Rocky Mountain Land Cruiser Association TLCA # 5513 '87BJ74, '86BJ70, '78FJ45, '53M100, '90M101cdn I support our Troopies

12-11-07, 10:55 AM	#48
lowenbrau IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Calgary AB TLCA# 5513 Posts: 2,466	The barrel configuration is 20/70 over .308 Winch. with lateral .22WMR. Attached Images __________________ Rocky Mountain Land Cruiser Association TLCA # 5513 '87BJ74, '86BJ70, '78FJ45, '53M100, '90M101cdn I support our Troopies

12-12-07, 08:00 PM	#51
Mike S IH8MUD Lifer - No Appeal Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,513	Sorry to respond late, but I have been in Texas hunting quail. The Fox is a 'remake' of a standard AE grade ejector gun that I bought in 1990. It was refiles, re-egraveed, stocked in French walnut (thin shell walnut, big-leaf walnut, English, Circassian, etc.) from Teyssier in Paris. Stock work was done by Gary Goudy of Dayton, WA. I have shot this gun at birds for years, and it is my 'go to' bird gun. I love it. As anyone can see I have a weakness for nice SxS shotguns. Nice Drilling! I like some of the high quality German and Austrian guns. __________________ '96 FZJ80, locked, Hanna sliders, ARB bumper, Kaymar rear with spare carrier, 45 gallon Longranger aux fuel tank, OBA, Hella 4000's, OME lift, 285/75/R16 Revos & AutoHome Maggiolina rooftop tent, etc. Custom Cruiser trailer with OverLand tent www.AutoHomeUS.com TLCA Member #14874

12-13-07, 12:22 PM	#52
Ducks IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Davis, CA TLCA# 17334 Posts: 1,110 Blog Entries: 2	I have an AyA 16 gauge that my dad gave me. I love to use it on quail and pheasant. Haven't quite got up the gumption to take it chukar hunting. I probably shouldn't but I love shooting it. What is the point of having it if you don't use it, right? Of course, ask me that after the first tumble down a talus slope. __________________ Chad... K7DUX.......1984 FJ60 - Daily Driver......Web Album ................"Non impediti ratione cogitationis" - Conloquium Currus ..

12-18-07, 10:47 AM	#53
centerlineseal IH8MUD Junior Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 144	Dyed in the Wool SxS man Nice thread! Bought my first SxS , Stevens 301(?) at age twelve, lost in Willamette River at age 21. Next a Savage "Fox", POS, sold soon after. Then two Browning BSS' in twelve and twenty. Both still in possession and used by family members. Final SxS is a Berretta Siver Hawk in 12 gauge. (Wife has one in a 20) This gun fits me so well I can't stand it! Used hard on Idaho quail, chukars and huns. Stock is scarred and cracked and need a new "field grade" made next spring. (Season runs to 31 January!) Does that fellow in Dayton WA build working gun stocks? __________________ A long term history of short term survival '72 FJ40 currently undergoing frameoff Boise Idaho

01-10-08, 01:10 AM	#54
theside00 IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA Posts: 590	I got two SxS that is pretty much all I have ever shot. Went with a pump jammed to much, semi auto jammed way to much. I got a model 21 winchester and the gun I use the most and have shot since I started is a rossi side by side. Brazilian made gub dont hear about them around here to much anybody else have one.

01-10-08, 05:40 AM	#55
WarDamnEagle IH8MUD Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: UK and Gulf Shores, Alabama Posts: 524	I prefer my 2 barrels vertical Dan: UK Diana grade, Browning 12 ga. B25 Superposed, 30" M F There are only two things that I've found cheaper in England than in the U.S.: Browning, Belgium made B25 shotguns and Barbour clothing. I'm investing heavily in both. Next purchase, custom fitted, B25 20 ga. Pointer.....need another bonus first! __________________ 1985 4Runner - second round of upgrades done! 1997 FZJ80 - locked and stock 2007 HDJ100 - DD .....and these are just the Toyotas

01-11-08, 09:52 AM	#56
Mike S IH8MUD Lifer - No Appeal Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,513	Browning Superposed I love the older Browning Supers (RKLT). I have owned a bunch of them in 20 gauge, and still have my 1937 Super that has killed a truck load of ducks. Wife gave me this gun about 25 years ago. The other O/U I like is my Perazzi MX20 with 30" fixed choke barrels. Like the Superposed, these guns just handle wonderfully and point very well. __________________ '96 FZJ80, locked, Hanna sliders, ARB bumper, Kaymar rear with spare carrier, 45 gallon Longranger aux fuel tank, OBA, Hella 4000's, OME lift, 285/75/R16 Revos & AutoHome Maggiolina rooftop tent, etc. Custom Cruiser trailer with OverLand tent www.AutoHomeUS.com TLCA Member #14874
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