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06-01-09, 05:51 PM
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Sweet cage Tom! Very nice! 
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74 FJ40 - Now with 2F and explosives.
89 FJ62 - nicely modded
07 FJC - basically stock
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06-01-09, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gumby
It's hard to tell from the pics.
Do you have a sufficient straight bar from front to rear at the top?
If not, we'll be winching you off of trees when you get them jammed between the bars.
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I figured the 2 angled tubes on each side will push the trees off. I marked in red what I visualize the path of the trees to be. With that, if I am still being winched off trees, I won't be very many times because I would be adding tubes.
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'78 FJ40 400 SBC, SM465
SOA, ARB Air Locked Frt & Rr, 4:88's
Longfield's, 37" KM2 MT's, Allied Beadlock's
4 Wheel Disc, SR, Saginaw Steering
Warn 8274-50 in my homebrew bumper.
Homebrew rear bumper w/ swing away.
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06-07-09, 07:59 PM
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Finally finished this SOB!! Some of the welds for the frame tie are a bitch to get at. Some one needs to make a trick bendable weld gun for tight spots that also has a small built in light that won't blow up from weld splatter.
Anyway, moving on down the priority list, won't get to everything but I will be ready enough.
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'78 FJ40 400 SBC, SM465
SOA, ARB Air Locked Frt & Rr, 4:88's
Longfield's, 37" KM2 MT's, Allied Beadlock's
4 Wheel Disc, SR, Saginaw Steering
Warn 8274-50 in my homebrew bumper.
Homebrew rear bumper w/ swing away.
MetalTech Full Cage
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06-07-09, 08:27 PM
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Wow Tom...That's sweeeeeeeeet. Nice job.
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06-07-09, 08:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gappy
Finally finished this SOB!! Some of the welds for the frame tie are a bitch to get at. Some one needs to make a trick bendable weld gun for tight spots that also has a small built in light that won't blow up from weld splatter.
Anyway, moving on down the priority list, won't get to everything but I will be ready enough.
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Lame.....where are the pics....?
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1988 4runner 3.0 5spd soft top stock DD
1990 fj62 stock
1992 4runner 3.4, auto, dual inchworms (5:1, chromo output, twinstick, 10*) 30 spl longs, assist, exo, 37" PBR's, beadlocks,
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06-08-09, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 4rnr
Lame.....where are the pics....?
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My camera sucks.....gotta steal my wife's for next week.
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'78 FJ40 400 SBC, SM465
SOA, ARB Air Locked Frt & Rr, 4:88's
Longfield's, 37" KM2 MT's, Allied Beadlock's
4 Wheel Disc, SR, Saginaw Steering
Warn 8274-50 in my homebrew bumper.
Homebrew rear bumper w/ swing away.
MetalTech Full Cage
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06-08-09, 11:02 AM
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Someone just told me that if I welded on my frame and didn't diconnect the battery that I probably cooked the battery. If this is true tell me now to help lesson the blow from when I get home from work tonight!!
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'78 FJ40 400 SBC, SM465
SOA, ARB Air Locked Frt & Rr, 4:88's
Longfield's, 37" KM2 MT's, Allied Beadlock's
4 Wheel Disc, SR, Saginaw Steering
Warn 8274-50 in my homebrew bumper.
Homebrew rear bumper w/ swing away.
MetalTech Full Cage
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06-08-09, 11:10 AM
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Batteries on sale at Wal-Mart. 
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74 FJ40 - Now with 2F and explosives.
89 FJ62 - nicely modded
07 FJC - basically stock
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06-08-09, 11:57 AM
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did I fry it?
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'78 FJ40 400 SBC, SM465
SOA, ARB Air Locked Frt & Rr, 4:88's
Longfield's, 37" KM2 MT's, Allied Beadlock's
4 Wheel Disc, SR, Saginaw Steering
Warn 8274-50 in my homebrew bumper.
Homebrew rear bumper w/ swing away.
MetalTech Full Cage
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06-08-09, 12:00 PM
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Disconnect the cables and use a volt meter on it. Honestly I doubt it is crapped out since the muffler monkeys don't disconnect your battery when welding on a new muffler. Ginger Jon welded on mine with the battery still hooked up and I had no problems with the battery.
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89 FJ62 - nicely modded
07 FJC - basically stock
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06-08-09, 12:18 PM
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I've welded the dog crap out of my truck without disconnecting the battery.
Electricity finds the quicketst path back to it's own source. It ain't going on any side trips to your battery.
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06-08-09, 12:36 PM
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I should of considered the source.........
Thanks
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'78 FJ40 400 SBC, SM465
SOA, ARB Air Locked Frt & Rr, 4:88's
Longfield's, 37" KM2 MT's, Allied Beadlock's
4 Wheel Disc, SR, Saginaw Steering
Warn 8274-50 in my homebrew bumper.
Homebrew rear bumper w/ swing away.
MetalTech Full Cage
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06-08-09, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gumby
I've welded the dog crap out of my truck without disconnecting the battery.
Electricity finds the quicketst path back to it's own source. It ain't going on any side trips to your battery.
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X2 you battery is fine. Ive never dico'ed my batt and Ive got football fields of welding wire in my truck. But i have heard the same warning.
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I should of considered the source.........
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I love listening to people who DONT speak from experiance (obviously the guy who told you that)
If I listened to everything the internet told me I could and couldnt do with my truck...Id be driving a mini-van 
BTW Cage looks great. Now we have to put it to good use with some field testing.
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1988 4runner 3.0 5spd soft top stock DD
1990 fj62 stock
1992 4runner 3.4, auto, dual inchworms (5:1, chromo output, twinstick, 10*) 30 spl longs, assist, exo, 37" PBR's, beadlocks,
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06-08-09, 04:01 PM
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One of the old Body men that I worked with years ago, also a shop owner saw a guy blow up a battery from having the battery connected. I would expect he probably was welding right next to it.
Now on the other hand I too have welded on alot of vehicles without disconnecting the battery with no problems, I just keep the ground close to what I'm welding. Newer vehicles I always disconnect due to all the senative electronics just to be safe with all the air bags and computer junk. That is usually major structural repair and the battery comes out more often than not just for access.
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'84 Flamed flatbed
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preseved body,but rather to skid in broadside, totaly worn out & proclaming "WOW WHAT A RIDE!"
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06-08-09, 04:09 PM
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FWIW I never disconnect my battery and I have had the same Optima redtop for 8 years!
I was finally getting the paint on my new cage yesterday, and I know that it will survive a roll now! I was by myself since Carl out of town, and I managed to roll the cage out of the truck by accident and gouged the whole side of my truck. I had just painted that side the day before too! I was able to repair that damage and get the cage painted but it ended up being a very long day.
I am starting my vacation on Thursday so I can wrap up all of the little details that the cage has taken away from, so I should be good to go Saturday to start the adventure without killing myself to get everything done. I still am having a hard time believing how much time a cage took to get it all of the way done. It is definitely worth it now that I see the end result, but there were times that I felt like quitting.
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06-08-09, 04:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruiser Clint
I still am having a hard time believing how much time a cage took to get it all of the way done. It is definitely worth it now that I see the end result, but there were times that I felt like quitting.
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In the last 10 years I have learned that projects on vehicles is like a Mother giving birth. They partially forget all the miserable parts and end up giving birth again and maybe again and so forth. My first vehicle to actually wrench on was a '67 Corvair convetible. I have never had anyone to seriously "lean on" in times of wrenching trouble so this car provided many "moments". But what did I do, finish it and moved on to other vehicles and slowly learn and learned and here i am in Yota off road world. So you end up taking on bigger projects and will mute the pain in the ass moments for a nice end result.
Many projects would never get started if this wasn't the case.
I'm off to the barn  !!
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'78 FJ40 400 SBC, SM465
SOA, ARB Air Locked Frt & Rr, 4:88's
Longfield's, 37" KM2 MT's, Allied Beadlock's
4 Wheel Disc, SR, Saginaw Steering
Warn 8274-50 in my homebrew bumper.
Homebrew rear bumper w/ swing away.
MetalTech Full Cage
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06-08-09, 05:25 PM
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Quote:
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If I listened to everything the internet told me I could and couldnt do with my truck...Id be driving a mini-van.
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You drive like you own a mini-van.
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74 FJ40 - Now with 2F and explosives.
89 FJ62 - nicely modded
07 FJC - basically stock
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06-08-09, 07:46 PM
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Quote:
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You drive like you own a mini-van.
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That doesnt even make sence (since you have never seen me drive)...Cmon Phil your better than this! You used to be able come up with some kind of semi-whitty come back, but now I just feel bad....like punching a retarded person... 
And Clint...WTF!!! where are the pics....I have to read through you whole sob story and there isnt even a pic at the bottom.... 
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1988 4runner 3.0 5spd soft top stock DD
1990 fj62 stock
1992 4runner 3.4, auto, dual inchworms (5:1, chromo output, twinstick, 10*) 30 spl longs, assist, exo, 37" PBR's, beadlocks,
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