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FZJ80 + Taco 6 speed + Orion
Well, things are getting out of hand with the latest project, so I figure it is about time to move it on over here to Hardcore.
For those that don't read the 80 section, have a look here for the beginings of this project.
http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/47895-6-speed-bling.html
I'm working on installing a Aisin RA60 6 speed Tacoma manual transmission behing my soon to be built 4.6L 1FZ. After weeks of deliberation on what to do in order to get a proper low range, it has been decided that the AA Orion 4.00 - 1 transfer case kit is the way to go.
In order to get the Orion to fit the 19 spline RA60 output shaft, the gear will have the center milled out, splined, and then be press fitted to a large splined adapter. This adapter is actually a piece from the stock HF2AV transfer case... it will be machined in various ways to accept bearings, seals, and the gear.
Pictures soon.
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Why not just do an atlas?
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this sounds very kewl...and lets ya keep the stock offset 80-axles intact...
hurry up with the bloody pics!!
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07-15-05, 04:16 PM
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I think this sums it up...
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07-15-05, 04:33 PM
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Woody answered the first part, keeping the stock offset axles. The gas tank would need to modding, too.
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Jowett Engineering
Western Massachusetts
08 Tundra Double Cab 5.7 Supercharged AWD
93 FZJ80, locked, 4.6L, 6 speed, Orion FORSALE
04 VW Touareg V8 w/ locker (hers)
80 FJ40 , 83k, PS and AC
05 Yamaha RS Rage Snowmobile
06 Suzuki King Quad
93 VW Corrado Syncro AWD 3.0L
51 Jowett Jupiter Roadster
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07-15-05, 09:14 PM
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Pics of "stuff"... Orion is on the way.
Transmission sans tail housing, note the nice long 19 spline output.
This is the input/main shaft from the HF2AV partially slipped onto the output. The input gear is press fit on here, the shaft is roughly 1 7/8" diameter and 44 spline. If anything has a chance of holding a custom splined gear, this shaft does.
Here are the input gears, counter clockwise from top left 16 spline 77' case, 19 spline 87' split case, 44 spline 93' HF2AV.
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08 Tundra Double Cab 5.7 Supercharged AWD
93 FZJ80, locked, 4.6L, 6 speed, Orion FORSALE
04 VW Touareg V8 w/ locker (hers)
80 FJ40 , 83k, PS and AC
05 Yamaha RS Rage Snowmobile
06 Suzuki King Quad
93 VW Corrado Syncro AWD 3.0L
51 Jowett Jupiter Roadster
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07-16-05, 05:42 AM
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So does this mean there will be no more updates in 80's tech?
Not that big of a deal since I frequently come in here to look around and drool but alot of the fella's will be missing out.
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07-16-05, 06:31 AM
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I can update the 80's section... Just figured with all the mods required to fit this combo, it is way beyond bolt in, thus fewer folks will be interested there.
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Jowett Engineering
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08 Tundra Double Cab 5.7 Supercharged AWD
93 FZJ80, locked, 4.6L, 6 speed, Orion FORSALE
04 VW Touareg V8 w/ locker (hers)
80 FJ40 , 83k, PS and AC
05 Yamaha RS Rage Snowmobile
06 Suzuki King Quad
93 VW Corrado Syncro AWD 3.0L
51 Jowett Jupiter Roadster
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07-16-05, 08:54 AM
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Just link it fugger! 
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07-17-05, 06:55 AM
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That is very cool indeed, but isn't the 80 axle only like 4" offset? I would think that hardly matters if you were to run a centered rear output..
But anyway, certainly out of the box.. 
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The gas tank is in the way of a centered shaft, I also believe some of the body or frame may be in the way also.
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Jowett Engineering
Western Massachusetts
08 Tundra Double Cab 5.7 Supercharged AWD
93 FZJ80, locked, 4.6L, 6 speed, Orion FORSALE
04 VW Touareg V8 w/ locker (hers)
80 FJ40 , 83k, PS and AC
05 Yamaha RS Rage Snowmobile
06 Suzuki King Quad
93 VW Corrado Syncro AWD 3.0L
51 Jowett Jupiter Roadster
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The gas tank is in the way of a centered shaft, I also believe some of the body or frame may be in the way also.
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Manaul trannys SUCK!
Cool idea though 
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Automatic transmissions suck, they are for lazy old people who want to look experienced when driving offroad. 
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Jowett Engineering
Western Massachusetts
08 Tundra Double Cab 5.7 Supercharged AWD
93 FZJ80, locked, 4.6L, 6 speed, Orion FORSALE
04 VW Touareg V8 w/ locker (hers)
80 FJ40 , 83k, PS and AC
05 Yamaha RS Rage Snowmobile
06 Suzuki King Quad
93 VW Corrado Syncro AWD 3.0L
51 Jowett Jupiter Roadster
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07-17-05, 04:20 PM
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Automatic transmissions suck, they are for lazy old people who want to look experienced when driving offroad. |
Or for anyone who want to drive over obstacles very smoothly without spining a tire or burning up a clutch.
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Brian get my vote for the most "outta the box" thinker. First the turbo 4Runner on FZJ80 axles and suspension, now this? Hey, once this is done and you sell it for 1/2 of what its worth, lemme know.
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Or for anyone who want to drive over obstacles very smoothly without spining a tire or burning up a clutch. |
No burny burny with 4.17 x 4.00 x 4.88... only old lazy people with automatics worry about spinning tires anyway. In all seriousness, automatics do an excellent job in some situations.
I made a smidge on the last rig, plus I got to wheel it for 2 years.... No 80 for you!
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Jowett Engineering
Western Massachusetts
08 Tundra Double Cab 5.7 Supercharged AWD
93 FZJ80, locked, 4.6L, 6 speed, Orion FORSALE
04 VW Touareg V8 w/ locker (hers)
80 FJ40 , 83k, PS and AC
05 Yamaha RS Rage Snowmobile
06 Suzuki King Quad
93 VW Corrado Syncro AWD 3.0L
51 Jowett Jupiter Roadster
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Brian,
Keep the posts coming. Very interesting idea. Look forward to watching it come together.
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True. True.
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No burny burny with 4.17 x 4.00 x 4.88... only old lazy people with automatics worry about spinning tires anyway. In all seriousness, automatics do an excellent job in some situations. |
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She idles just fine
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Very sweet. I'll be trying to figure out how to mount a LC split transfercase behind a HiLux/Surf (4Runner) auto tranny. I am thinking about a Marlin Crawler toybox with the front built to adapt to the HiLux slushbox and the rear made to adapt to the split TC. With the toybox in place, my crawl options would be amazing.
(Side note: my project involves pulling the H diesel drivetrain out of my HJ-45 and installing a 1KZ-TE turbodiesel/slushbox pulled from a JDM half-cut. I want to keep my LC offset full-float rear axle and end up with a KZJ-45.)
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i know some1 who had a 6 speed put in his 60 
keep up the good work
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Number 241 has arrived... the fun begins next week!
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Jowett Engineering
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08 Tundra Double Cab 5.7 Supercharged AWD
93 FZJ80, locked, 4.6L, 6 speed, Orion FORSALE
04 VW Touareg V8 w/ locker (hers)
80 FJ40 , 83k, PS and AC
05 Yamaha RS Rage Snowmobile
06 Suzuki King Quad
93 VW Corrado Syncro AWD 3.0L
51 Jowett Jupiter Roadster
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The 1FZ has officially joined the 6 speed RA60 transmission. The mounting flange from the old A442 bellhousing was cut and removed, then TIG welded directly to the RA60 bellhousing. A few redundant steel braces will help support the weld... cast aluminum is cast aluminum, after the TIG is done, it can only be so strong.
Centering the transmission to the engine was a slight challenge due to the fact that the RA60 uses no pilot bearing. A 3.5" long sleeve was machined and used in much the same way that a clutch alignment tool is used. The sleeve slides over the transmission's input shaft, and then slides into the pilot bearing hole in the crankshaft as the transmission is set into place against the back of the engine.
Now on to machining the flywheel and adapting the Orion....
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Jowett Engineering
Western Massachusetts
08 Tundra Double Cab 5.7 Supercharged AWD
93 FZJ80, locked, 4.6L, 6 speed, Orion FORSALE
04 VW Touareg V8 w/ locker (hers)
80 FJ40 , 83k, PS and AC
05 Yamaha RS Rage Snowmobile
06 Suzuki King Quad
93 VW Corrado Syncro AWD 3.0L
51 Jowett Jupiter Roadster
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its about damn time yous 80s tech people stop talking about leather seats....awesome job bro
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its about damn time yous 80s tech people stop talking about leather seats....awesome job bro
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Remember it's a gateway drug, so it will actually lead to "crystal meh".
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Centering the transmission to the engine was a slight challenge due to the fact that the RA60 uses no pilot bearing. A 3.5" long sleeve was machined and used in much the same way that a clutch alignment tool is used. The sleeve slides over the transmission's input shaft, and then slides into the pilot bearing hole in the crankshaft as the transmission is set into place against the back of the engine.
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No pilot bearing? From your post, I can't tell what supports the input shaft???
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Yup... no pilot bearing is used. Just like the old front drive cable clutch VW's. The main shaft is very long and gear reduction is done on the output shaft side. All support is internal to the transmission. Nothing explains(??) it better than the picture of the shafts....
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Jowett Engineering
Western Massachusetts
08 Tundra Double Cab 5.7 Supercharged AWD
93 FZJ80, locked, 4.6L, 6 speed, Orion FORSALE
04 VW Touareg V8 w/ locker (hers)
80 FJ40 , 83k, PS and AC
05 Yamaha RS Rage Snowmobile
06 Suzuki King Quad
93 VW Corrado Syncro AWD 3.0L
51 Jowett Jupiter Roadster
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Brian -
How's the project going?
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The shortblock is together and the flywheel is almost complete....
Flywheel chunk....
roughed in...
Should have the final pic of it this week.
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Jowett Engineering
Western Massachusetts
08 Tundra Double Cab 5.7 Supercharged AWD
93 FZJ80, locked, 4.6L, 6 speed, Orion FORSALE
04 VW Touareg V8 w/ locker (hers)
80 FJ40 , 83k, PS and AC
05 Yamaha RS Rage Snowmobile
06 Suzuki King Quad
93 VW Corrado Syncro AWD 3.0L
51 Jowett Jupiter Roadster
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Absolutely incredible. What's your day job?
I'm just speechless with the amount of engineering going into this...
Lowertide - they also talk about birf repacks..
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Self employed... restoring a couple of old houses, buy and sell stuff.
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Jowett Engineering
Western Massachusetts
08 Tundra Double Cab 5.7 Supercharged AWD
93 FZJ80, locked, 4.6L, 6 speed, Orion FORSALE
04 VW Touareg V8 w/ locker (hers)
80 FJ40 , 83k, PS and AC
05 Yamaha RS Rage Snowmobile
06 Suzuki King Quad
93 VW Corrado Syncro AWD 3.0L
51 Jowett Jupiter Roadster
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