Project X - Page 5

Waggoner5 · 08-25-05, 04:25 PM

Here are some pics of the body mounts

Waggoner5 · 08-25-05, 04:27 PM

Another, keep in mind that there is rock sliders and fenders that will attach to these also.

wngrog · 08-25-05, 07:40 PM

Gary, one thing to remember, you can "suck" the tires in with normal 17" wheels since they all come with 5" backspace wheels.

The Walker Evans I am running are 4" Backspace.

riverguide · 09-01-05, 11:45 PM

this is gonna be put in Toyota Trails fo sho!!! Awesome work Gary.

Waggoner5 · 09-07-05, 07:13 AM

Got started on the front fenders this week. They will be tube to match the stock fenders. The front bib is mounted to the front fender hoops. I mounted up a set of Grogans 39" Krawlers to make the fender width measurements. The rear is also going to have fenders because the 80 series track is so wide. They are going to match the front in design and will tie into the rear bumper as the front ties into the front bumper.

74fj40 · 09-08-05, 07:56 PM

looks good, just gonna put sheet metal over the tubing?

Waggoner5 · 09-09-05, 07:23 AM

Yep, sheet metal over the tubing.

Radd Cruisers · 09-10-05, 12:22 PM

Since this going to be hard core, was wondering why the fenders are mount in the stock location and not raised for tire clearance?

Or is it hard core slash still going for the true cruiser look you are going for?

Rob

xumFJ40 · 09-10-05, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Waggoner5

Unfortunately, the 45 body is so narrow that the stock wheels stick out about 4" past the fenders so a wide set of fenders similar to Landcruiser design for the front will have to be made and the rears will be matching the front giving the 45 a semi stepside look. Its going to be funky for sure.

Gary,

What made you decide to go with enlarged fenders making it "funky" instead of doing somthing like sectioning the body down the center and adding the additonal 4" to retain the stock look?

Or you could section it in two places on either side of the seats and add 2" each so that you wouldn't have to worry as much about the dash, windshield and front bib.

Anyway...just curious...no way it is going to be ready for ICBM...is it?

Radd Cruisers · 09-10-05, 11:35 PM

I like this idea, but its a lotta work a mucho hours.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xumFJ40

Gary,

What made you decide to go with enlarged fenders making it "funky" instead of doing somthing like sectioning the body down the center and adding the additonal 4" to retain the stock look?

Or you could section it in two places on either side of the seats and add 2" each so that you wouldn't have to worry as much about the dash, windshield and front bib.

Anyway...just curious...no way it is going to be ready for ICBM...is it?

kling-on · 09-11-05, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xumFJ40

Gary,

What made you decide to go with enlarged fenders making it "funky" instead of doing somthing like sectioning the body down the center and adding the additonal 4" to retain the stock look?

Or you could section it in two places on either side of the seats and add 2" each so that you wouldn't have to worry as much about the dash, windshield and front bib.

Anyway...just curious...no way it is going to be ready for ICBM...is it?

WOW that sounds like lot of work and would look WAY funkyer I think the fenders in the front and TJ flairs in the rear will or would look real nice and clean ... Wouldnt expect anything but fine as Hell from Gary

Keep the up dates comin looks nice ..... got any new side pics with the new Tail on the bed

Waggoner5 · 09-11-05, 09:26 AM

I started to cut the body down the center and section it so evrything would fit, but didn't for many reasons. I thought it out, drew it out, etc. and given the look afterwards, and the overwhelming amount of work, it was just not in the cards. Amongst other issues, the drivetrain tunnel would end up being double the height of the stock one and I want the space. I really like the larger fenders, and keep in mind that this was mocked up with roughly 6" of lift and 39" tires. The width of the fenders looked miniscule with this combo. I want the truck to have the look that Toyota would have given it if they had done this in the first place. I want to be able to run the more hardcore runs that I can't run in my wagons because of body size, but still am not going beat on it so having the fenders almost covering the tires shouldn't be an issue. I also want to be able to drive across country with the AC on to get to the wheeling spots if I want. Maybe it won't be as hardcore as this forum suggests, but as all the trucks/cars I have built, I will go for a kind of a restmod look, not an all out rock climber look. I guess the truck that gives me inspiration is Rob Rutledge's truck. The only thing I am not hot on is the Black plastic rear fender extension. Mine will look similar in design, but will be tubing/sheetmetal and tied into the rest of the armor. I appreciate the comments. Keep them coming.

Radd Cruisers · 09-11-05, 04:44 PM

OK I got it now.............. I think it is definitely hard core and belongs in this section.

[ I want to be able to run the more hardcore runs that I can't run in my wagons because of body size, but still am not going beat on it so having the fenders almost covering the tires shouldn't be an issue. I also want to be able to drive across country with the AC on to get to the wheeling spots if I want. Maybe it won't be as hardcore as this forum suggests, but as all the trucks/cars I have built, I will go for a kind of a restmod look, not an all out rock climber look. I guess the truck that gives me inspiration is Rob Rutledge's truck. The only thing I am not hot on is the Black plastic rear fender extension. Mine will look similar in design, but will be tubing/sheetmetal and tied into the rest of the armor. I appreciate the comments. Keep them coming.[/quote]

xumFJ40 · 09-12-05, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radd Cruisers

OK I got it now..............

Yeah...me too! I guess it was the "step-side look" comment that freaked me out about it...but after seeing the the above pick I get it.

I know that no matter how Gary ends up doing it...it will be bad ass.

Gary,

You will have to explain to me what you mean about the drive train hump being enlarged at the meeting this week though...

Waggoner5 · 09-13-05, 08:03 AM

The body is sitting within 1 inch of the frame now, if I chaneled it over the frame the drivetrain would stick up farther through the floor making the tunnel even larger than it is now. Widening the body would have worked to cover the tires but then the hump in the floor would have been really wide as well as tall. I liked the enlarged fenders better than the wide body anyway.
Gary

tornadoalleycruiser · 09-13-05, 09:27 AM

"I also want to be able to drive across country with the AC on to get to the wheeling spots if I want. "

I"m guessing those would be solo runs!

Looking awesome Gary.. Good to see JK staying busy.. You know most of us just watch and are in awe..
Keep up the great work..

REZARF · 09-13-05, 11:15 PM

Gary-

You are building what I have always thought would be sweet ever since seeing that Retro Cruiser several years ago.

Hats off to you- keep up the good work.

Any recent pics?

Rezarf <><

Waggoner5 · 09-14-05, 09:06 AM

They are coming. We are just making slow progress right now. The cage is being mocked up right now, then the rear bumper, then the rear fenders. Pics to follow.

Waggoner5 · 10-05-05, 07:29 AM

Cage pics. Still working on the rear fenders.

Waggoner5 · 10-06-05, 05:55 PM

Rear fender shots. Jason fabbed up a rear bumper to attach the rear fenders too also. Very simple with a 2 inch receiver.

74fj40 · 10-06-05, 06:15 PM

GREAT JOB!!! those rear fenders look GREAT!! Keep up the GREAT work!!

tclndcrz · 10-06-05, 06:40 PM

i love it. whats next on the long list?

Waggoner5 · 10-06-05, 07:33 PM

Next is building the exhaust system, radiator mounts, mocking up the AC/heater unit, and starting the suspension. I need to but my tires and wheels but not what to buy yet. I need to start thinking about the color. Tan is my first choice.

concretejungle · 10-06-05, 07:35 PM

Gary, are yall working on that at your place?

Couldn't help but notice the SYF sticker on the tool box. Sweet

Waggoner5 · 10-06-05, 07:52 PM

This part of the truck is being built at a buddies shop called JK Customs. Jason is responsible for Nolens last Kate project. He is very good at tube work and 5 times faster than me. Its coming back to my place this weekend.

wngrog · 10-06-05, 08:10 PM

Damn, I am going to post just to get this off page 5

08-25-05, 04:25 PM	#121
Waggoner5 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,214	Here are some pics of the body mounts Attached Images __________________ Gary Waggoner Golden, Co 1989 FJ62 SOA, 502 Mercruiser, ARBs Sold 1987 HJ61 SOA, Cable Locks, 39k miles Sold 1983 FJ40 sitting broke since 89 1965 FZJ45 Pickup on modified 80 chassis 2003 Tacoma, ARB, OME, SC, TRD TLCA 10689 LSLC 2000 Rising Sun 2007 www.powerplayracing.net

08-25-05, 04:27 PM	#122
Waggoner5 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,214	Another, keep in mind that there is rock sliders and fenders that will attach to these also. Attached Images __________________ Gary Waggoner Golden, Co 1989 FJ62 SOA, 502 Mercruiser, ARBs Sold 1987 HJ61 SOA, Cable Locks, 39k miles Sold 1983 FJ40 sitting broke since 89 1965 FZJ45 Pickup on modified 80 chassis 2003 Tacoma, ARB, OME, SC, TRD TLCA 10689 LSLC 2000 Rising Sun 2007 www.powerplayracing.net

08-25-05, 07:40 PM	#123
wngrog IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canton, Mississippi TLCA# 8121 Posts: 2,505	Gary, one thing to remember, you can "suck" the tires in with normal 17" wheels since they all come with 5" backspace wheels. The Walker Evans I am running are 4" Backspace. __________________ Rock Midget Motorsports www.rockmidget.com 2009 Calendars at www.rockmidget.com

09-01-05, 11:45 PM	#124
riverguide IH8MUD Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Posts: 52	this is gonna be put in Toyota Trails fo sho!!! Awesome work Gary. __________________ -Kyle

09-07-05, 07:13 AM	#125
Waggoner5 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,214	Got started on the front fenders this week. They will be tube to match the stock fenders. The front bib is mounted to the front fender hoops. I mounted up a set of Grogans 39" Krawlers to make the fender width measurements. The rear is also going to have fenders because the 80 series track is so wide. They are going to match the front in design and will tie into the rear bumper as the front ties into the front bumper. Attached Images __________________ Gary Waggoner Golden, Co 1989 FJ62 SOA, 502 Mercruiser, ARBs Sold 1987 HJ61 SOA, Cable Locks, 39k miles Sold 1983 FJ40 sitting broke since 89 1965 FZJ45 Pickup on modified 80 chassis 2003 Tacoma, ARB, OME, SC, TRD TLCA 10689 LSLC 2000 Rising Sun 2007 www.powerplayracing.net

09-08-05, 07:56 PM	#126
74fj40 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Highlands Ranch, Colorado Posts: 2,050	looks good, just gonna put sheet metal over the tubing? __________________ Max Parkinson 72' FJ40-4" lift, FJ60 axles, FJ60 4speed with split case, 35's, detroit locker, 96"WB, saginaw with GM tilt column. badass.

09-09-05, 07:23 AM	#127
Waggoner5 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,214	Yep, sheet metal over the tubing. __________________ Gary Waggoner Golden, Co 1989 FJ62 SOA, 502 Mercruiser, ARBs Sold 1987 HJ61 SOA, Cable Locks, 39k miles Sold 1983 FJ40 sitting broke since 89 1965 FZJ45 Pickup on modified 80 chassis 2003 Tacoma, ARB, OME, SC, TRD TLCA 10689 LSLC 2000 Rising Sun 2007 www.powerplayracing.net

09-10-05, 12:22 PM	#128
Radd Cruisers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 3,658	Since this going to be hard core, was wondering why the fenders are mount in the stock location and not raised for tire clearance? Or is it hard core slash still going for the true cruiser look you are going for? Rob __________________ Check out our new location in Duncan, BC www.raddcruisers.ca --> 60 Series Cable Lockers available - 4.11s or 3.70s - all hardware included --> 12HT & H55F combos available - complete & running Limited Quantities - Deposit or Full Payment Required to hold your order while they ship

09-11-05, 09:26 AM	#132
Waggoner5 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,214	I started to cut the body down the center and section it so evrything would fit, but didn't for many reasons. I thought it out, drew it out, etc. and given the look afterwards, and the overwhelming amount of work, it was just not in the cards. Amongst other issues, the drivetrain tunnel would end up being double the height of the stock one and I want the space. I really like the larger fenders, and keep in mind that this was mocked up with roughly 6" of lift and 39" tires. The width of the fenders looked miniscule with this combo. I want the truck to have the look that Toyota would have given it if they had done this in the first place. I want to be able to run the more hardcore runs that I can't run in my wagons because of body size, but still am not going beat on it so having the fenders almost covering the tires shouldn't be an issue. I also want to be able to drive across country with the AC on to get to the wheeling spots if I want. Maybe it won't be as hardcore as this forum suggests, but as all the trucks/cars I have built, I will go for a kind of a restmod look, not an all out rock climber look. I guess the truck that gives me inspiration is Rob Rutledge's truck. The only thing I am not hot on is the Black plastic rear fender extension. Mine will look similar in design, but will be tubing/sheetmetal and tied into the rest of the armor. I appreciate the comments. Keep them coming. Attached Images __________________ Gary Waggoner Golden, Co 1989 FJ62 SOA, 502 Mercruiser, ARBs Sold 1987 HJ61 SOA, Cable Locks, 39k miles Sold 1983 FJ40 sitting broke since 89 1965 FZJ45 Pickup on modified 80 chassis 2003 Tacoma, ARB, OME, SC, TRD TLCA 10689 LSLC 2000 Rising Sun 2007 www.powerplayracing.net

09-11-05, 04:44 PM	#133
Radd Cruisers IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 3,658	OK I got it now.............. I think it is definitely hard core and belongs in this section. [ I want to be able to run the more hardcore runs that I can't run in my wagons because of body size, but still am not going beat on it so having the fenders almost covering the tires shouldn't be an issue. I also want to be able to drive across country with the AC on to get to the wheeling spots if I want. Maybe it won't be as hardcore as this forum suggests, but as all the trucks/cars I have built, I will go for a kind of a restmod look, not an all out rock climber look. I guess the truck that gives me inspiration is Rob Rutledge's truck. The only thing I am not hot on is the Black plastic rear fender extension. Mine will look similar in design, but will be tubing/sheetmetal and tied into the rest of the armor. I appreciate the comments. Keep them coming.[/quote] __________________ Check out our new location in Duncan, BC www.raddcruisers.ca --> 60 Series Cable Lockers available - 4.11s or 3.70s - all hardware included --> 12HT & H55F combos available - complete & running Limited Quantities - Deposit or Full Payment Required to hold your order while they ship

09-13-05, 08:03 AM	#135
Waggoner5 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,214	The body is sitting within 1 inch of the frame now, if I chaneled it over the frame the drivetrain would stick up farther through the floor making the tunnel even larger than it is now. Widening the body would have worked to cover the tires but then the hump in the floor would have been really wide as well as tall. I liked the enlarged fenders better than the wide body anyway. Gary __________________ Gary Waggoner Golden, Co 1989 FJ62 SOA, 502 Mercruiser, ARBs Sold 1987 HJ61 SOA, Cable Locks, 39k miles Sold 1983 FJ40 sitting broke since 89 1965 FZJ45 Pickup on modified 80 chassis 2003 Tacoma, ARB, OME, SC, TRD TLCA 10689 LSLC 2000 Rising Sun 2007 www.powerplayracing.net

09-13-05, 09:27 AM	#136
tornadoalleycruiser IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: KC Mo TLCA# EVP #5303 Posts: 1,091	"I also want to be able to drive across country with the AC on to get to the wheeling spots if I want. " I"m guessing those would be solo runs! Looking awesome Gary.. Good to see JK staying busy.. You know most of us just watch and are in awe.. Keep up the great work.. __________________ Erik FJ45, FJ40, FJ62 TLCA #5303 I'm nervous, my hands are sweating, Legs shaking, totally having a blast !

09-13-05, 11:15 PM	#137
REZARF IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisville, CO TLCA# 13041 Posts: 2,839	Gary- You are building what I have always thought would be sweet ever since seeing that Retro Cruiser several years ago. Hats off to you- keep up the good work. Any recent pics? Rezarf <>< __________________ Drew F. Rising Sun 4x4 Club 76 FJ40, 85 fj60 Engine and Ignition, 35" MTR's, Warn 8074, 4" of lift TPI, snorkeled, racked, Mini-truck P/S... and sometimes running. Friends don't let friends drive Thornbirds... My camping trailer build up thread.

09-14-05, 09:06 AM	#138
Waggoner5 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,214	They are coming. We are just making slow progress right now. The cage is being mocked up right now, then the rear bumper, then the rear fenders. Pics to follow. __________________ Gary Waggoner Golden, Co 1989 FJ62 SOA, 502 Mercruiser, ARBs Sold 1987 HJ61 SOA, Cable Locks, 39k miles Sold 1983 FJ40 sitting broke since 89 1965 FZJ45 Pickup on modified 80 chassis 2003 Tacoma, ARB, OME, SC, TRD TLCA 10689 LSLC 2000 Rising Sun 2007 www.powerplayracing.net

10-05-05, 07:29 AM	#139
Waggoner5 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,214	Cage pics. Still working on the rear fenders. Attached Images __________________ Gary Waggoner Golden, Co 1989 FJ62 SOA, 502 Mercruiser, ARBs Sold 1987 HJ61 SOA, Cable Locks, 39k miles Sold 1983 FJ40 sitting broke since 89 1965 FZJ45 Pickup on modified 80 chassis 2003 Tacoma, ARB, OME, SC, TRD TLCA 10689 LSLC 2000 Rising Sun 2007 www.powerplayracing.net

10-06-05, 06:40 PM	#142
tclndcrz IH8MUD Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bozeman MT TLCA# 14430 Posts: 933	i love it. whats next on the long list? __________________ -Thomas Crumrine TLCA #14430 88 FJ62 33x12.5 BFG A/Ts, front parabolics, ARB bumper, warn xd9000, 2badfjs sliders, aussie lockers, longfields, durabak, flowmaster, rear disks...

10-06-05, 07:35 PM	#144
concretejungle IH8MUD Tour Guide Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Cadillac TLCA# 14646 Posts: 5,981	Gary, are yall working on that at your place? Couldn't help but notice the SYF sticker on the tool box. Sweet __________________ 95' FZJ80 OME med./J lift, ARB rack, ARB Bull Bar w/tmax 12,500, 315 Nitto, stainless brake lines, Center Diff Lock, Sliders, IPOR Skid, IPOR rear bumper, upgraded slee sticker, custom dents, more to come. . . Remember it's a gateway drug, so it will actually lead to "crystal meh".

10-06-05, 05:55 PM	#140
Waggoner5 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,214	Rear fender shots. Jason fabbed up a rear bumper to attach the rear fenders too also. Very simple with a 2 inch receiver. Attached Images __________________ Gary Waggoner Golden, Co 1989 FJ62 SOA, 502 Mercruiser, ARBs Sold 1987 HJ61 SOA, Cable Locks, 39k miles Sold 1983 FJ40 sitting broke since 89 1965 FZJ45 Pickup on modified 80 chassis 2003 Tacoma, ARB, OME, SC, TRD TLCA 10689 LSLC 2000 Rising Sun 2007 www.powerplayracing.net

10-06-05, 06:15 PM	#141
74fj40 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Highlands Ranch, Colorado Posts: 2,050	GREAT JOB!!! those rear fenders look GREAT!! Keep up the GREAT work!! __________________ Max Parkinson 72' FJ40-4" lift, FJ60 axles, FJ60 4speed with split case, 35's, detroit locker, 96"WB, saginaw with GM tilt column. badass.

10-06-05, 07:33 PM	#143
Waggoner5 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,214	Next is building the exhaust system, radiator mounts, mocking up the AC/heater unit, and starting the suspension. I need to but my tires and wheels but not what to buy yet. I need to start thinking about the color. Tan is my first choice. __________________ Gary Waggoner Golden, Co 1989 FJ62 SOA, 502 Mercruiser, ARBs Sold 1987 HJ61 SOA, Cable Locks, 39k miles Sold 1983 FJ40 sitting broke since 89 1965 FZJ45 Pickup on modified 80 chassis 2003 Tacoma, ARB, OME, SC, TRD TLCA 10689 LSLC 2000 Rising Sun 2007 www.powerplayracing.net

10-06-05, 07:52 PM	#145
Waggoner5 IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,214	This part of the truck is being built at a buddies shop called JK Customs. Jason is responsible for Nolens last Kate project. He is very good at tube work and 5 times faster than me. Its coming back to my place this weekend. __________________ Gary Waggoner Golden, Co 1989 FJ62 SOA, 502 Mercruiser, ARBs Sold 1987 HJ61 SOA, Cable Locks, 39k miles Sold 1983 FJ40 sitting broke since 89 1965 FZJ45 Pickup on modified 80 chassis 2003 Tacoma, ARB, OME, SC, TRD TLCA 10689 LSLC 2000 Rising Sun 2007 www.powerplayracing.net

10-06-05, 08:10 PM	#146
wngrog IH8MUD Lifer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canton, Mississippi TLCA# 8121 Posts: 2,505	Damn, I am going to post just to get this off page 5 __________________ Rock Midget Motorsports www.rockmidget.com 2009 Calendars at www.rockmidget.com